Quince is even more broken than we tought

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1. Rank means nothing it is only a road block
2. Fixing the glitch will only delay payout by a marginal amount of time.
3. It's really not that big of a deal as people make it out to be.
4. Should it be fixed, yes and I'm sure they will fix it.
5. Calm yourselves.
6. Close thread
 
"Exploits" like Quince favor fans of the game who spend the time to read/research the forums.

"Exploits" like Quince keep the big boats flyin' which might otherwise never get out of the hangar.

"Exploits" like Quince lead players to try things they might not otherwise do.

"Exploits" like Quince keep the game interesting.

Without "Exploits" like Quince many players might have gotten bored and left the game. "Exploits" keep me energized!

Maybe these "exploits" are actually by design. Hopefully there will always be one or two of them around so the faithful can feed their habit.

Long live the "Exploits"!

If you don't like them then don't use them. Problem solved!

The self-righteous "Disciples of Elite" can all go to the planet Hades!

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Relogo again. {snip}

Nope! Wrong!

You can get a perfectly good Beluga full (7Mil) of short range Passenger Missions (without risking criminals) in Quince without relogging.
 
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Relogo again.

Dear FDev, you are still trying to build a house on sand.
Phillars of Elite are broken, there is an architecture issue.

Architecture of mission server is broken. There will be again and against similar exploits if you will do not change architecture.

I wrote about it here:
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/347320-How-to-please-everyone-and-reduce-forum-rage
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/346789-RELOGO-Massacre-stacking
and in other few places

Current expoits caused by wrong architecture:
- Robigo
- Draconis
- Quince
- Rank progress
- charity missions
- scan relogo
- firmware relogo

Still not enough?
Good. Then it will be more if You will not fix it from the deep.

Please fix that cancer by changing architecture. Patching what you have now is bandaging a broken knee.

Cancer? As in so many flocking to Quince it is breaking the server? Then I agree. Or cancer as in forum threads that explode with posts, yes for sure. Cancer as in game-killing, please provide evidence.
 
Architecture of mission server is broken. There will be again and against similar exploits if you will do not change architecture.

The "architecture" is broken? Hardly. There are certainly a couple of bugs that need sorting out, but that's all. As soon as you need to visit each scan target, and a massacre only counts for one mission, then things will be working fine (and of course passenger missions sorted in the same way). Hardly a huge issue.
 
Speaking of exploits, this got me thinking: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/347830-Passenger-mission-Abandoning-clears-ALL-Cabbins

And yes, it works. You can stack up to 20 passenger missions on one go. Heres now..

1: Take one high paying / long range mission to another system. Remember which slot you put it in.
2: Fill up the other passenger cabins with quince sightseeing missions.
3: When full, abandon the high paying mission (it will be the one with a 3week expiry timer. Thats why we chose one of those as its easy to distinguish from the rest).
4: Check your inventory cabins. They are all empty, but you still have the missions (lazy coding ED)
5: Take another quince passenger mission, but you can only put it in the slot your removed the high paying mission from.

6: Restart the game (Yes, restart).

7: Log back in and do it all again. Start with a high paying mission, fill up the rest, abandon high paying mission.

You now have 20 passenger missions. When you are full and you have a high paying mission, you can happily abandon it and take another.

Is it an exploit? Yes. Does it increase your payout in Quince? No not really since it takes longer to restart the game then it does to fly to the tourist beacon.

However, if you were to fill 20 high paying missions to the same location this way ....

If you need to roleplay it, when the passenger complains that the cabin is occupied, you go "NOT ACCORDING TO MY RECORDS. Get in there!" *push push*

Edit: tl;dr?
Fill up on passenger missions. Abandon one, restart game, repeat until you have 20 missions.
 
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Uh oh, get ready for the flames...

Mind you, for that report, the response from QA to the first post is poor. The OP gave all the information required to be able to reproduce, and QA simply say go away and collect more information... Surely QA should be testing this rather than putting the onus back onto the player? I bet most players wouldn't even bother to report it.
 
...and of course passenger missions sorted in the same way...

The only thing "out of sorts" (i.e. "buggy") with the Passenger missions in Quince is that ANY/ALL of the "sightseeing" missions can be satisfied by going to EITHER Gaylen's Ascention OR the Quince Visitor Beacon (regardless of what each individual missions says). Even if everything was working "properly", and you had to fly to the actual beacon which was specified in each mission (there are only TWO), it would still be very lucrative!

There is nothing "wrong" with having 7 or so passenger missions aboard and getting credit for taking them all to the same beacon (if that is where they want to go).

Yup, there are lots of high paying (1M), VERY short haul, passenger missions in Quince. But that's what the game is offering so why not run them while the running is good?

Folks can feel free to create a backstory to justify the lucrative missions if it makes them happy! Thargoids are printing credits in Quince to devalue the galactic currency...

...or just choose NOT to run them if they think its "unsavory".

If someone tells me its raining money in the park around the corner, I'm going! Others are certainly entitled to grumble about free money if that makes them feel more righteous...
 
Quince multi missions as one Exploits first reported in January.
Whats taking so long @Fdev, not the "Its not an exploit crowd", who dont seem to realise the dev who coded the missions said its an exploit.
 
Uh oh, get ready for the flames...

Mind you, for that report, the response from QA to the first post is poor. The OP gave all the information required to be able to reproduce, and QA simply say go away and collect more information... Surely QA should be testing this rather than putting the onus back onto the player? I bet most players wouldn't even bother to report it.

Yeah, if FDev actually fixed these things in time or pretended to care, I would not have posted it. I did report it in the same thread as well.
 
Quince multi missions as one Exploits first reported in January.
Whats taking so long @Fdev, not the "Its not an exploit crowd", who dont seem to realise the dev who coded the missions said its an exploit.

Maybe I'm missing something... But how is taking a bunch of passengers (multiple missions) to a single beacon an exploit (as long as all the missions requested to go to that very same beacon)?

I get it that any of these sightseeing missions can go to either beacon and be completed (and that IS a bug). However, there is nothing fundamentally wrong with satisfying "multi missions as one" if the SPECIFIED target is the same... If you have a bus that holds 7 groups of people, and each group wants to see the Grand Canyon, why should you have to take each group separately?
 
The only thing "out of sorts" (i.e. "buggy") with the Passenger missions in Quince is that ANY/ALL of the "sightseeing" missions can be satisfied by going to EITHER Gaylen's Ascention OR the Quince Visitor Beacon (regardless of what each individual missions says). Even if everything was working "properly", and you had to fly to the actual beacon which was specified in each mission (there are only TWO), it would still be very lucrative!

I agree. It's similar for the other mission types. Nothing wrong with stacking missions or anything else. Quince will still be lucrative once the bugs are fixed, and I'm sure it will be on my route for a long time yet to come.
 
I travelled from Quince to Aditi to check out the boom economy and omg the mission payments haven't been nerf hammered they have been nailed to a cross, crucified, burnt, openly urinated on and then buried for 1000yrs.
 
Hey can one of you folks who have been hammering away at Quince tell me if this got nerfed yesterday.
I found a similar system except the beacon is a hundred light years away from the mission giver.
Not super convenient, but Alliance oriented.

Anyways the passenger missions completely dried up yesterday.
Thursday - as many as 14 passengers to different destinations. Now - nothing. The BGS state hasn't changed.

So has there been a server side change rolled out?
Is Quince still giving out for you guys?
Do some factions dry up out there? Why?

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Credits are balanced around rebuy not ship cost.

10 year plan does not mean "10 years to earn an Anaconda"

I bought an Anaconda today.
My first.
Almost Two Years.
But I did it on the back of the Alliance Passenger Missions - to help an Alliance faction.

My concern about the disappearing passengers, is not "they were paying so well" but the Alliance faction is issuing zero missions. At this point I would be happy to take passengers on return trips to the bubble. A thousand light years would be cool if I could take a The Anaconda full of sightseers.

Anyway - this is my Anaconda, there are many like her, but this one is mine.
Please join me for canapés and champagne on the bridge.
"A toast: To TURNER'S CALL and all who answered for the Alliance"
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Hey can one of you folks who have been hammering away at Quince tell me if this got nerfed yesterday.
I found a similar system except the beacon is a hundred light years away from the mission giver.
Not super convenient, but Alliance oriented.

Anyways the passenger missions completely dried up yesterday.
Thursday - as many as 14 passengers to different destinations. Now - nothing. The BGS state hasn't changed.

So has there been a server side change rolled out?
Is Quince still giving out for you guys?
Do some factions dry up out there? Why?

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I bought an Anaconda today.
My first.
Almost Two Years.

I've not been in game recently, but a server side release was made on the 17th. Would it take a while to filter through and balance out. Although, nothing is mentioned in the notes?????

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/352751-Server-Update-2-3-02
 
Hey can one of you folks who have been hammering away at Quince tell me if this got nerfed yesterday.

As of about 12 hrs ago: Milleport is in lockdown but Jeffries is still running strong. Lots of Pass missions running out of Jeffries. I think also Massacre and a few Scan missions as well (although I wasn't running them). I think there may still be Pass missions at Millerport as well. I was mostly Bounty hunting at the Nav beacon (funded by credits from Pass missions)...
 
Hi everyone, didn't read the whole thread but I would like to let everyone know that Quince HAS been nerfed/fixed or something. My "friend" was doing the scanning missions and as of the 17th there are almost ZERO missions on the mission board and there are also no passenger missions. "He" had to switch game modes almost 20 times for just 3 missions to show up. I am not sure if this happend for other people, but I would say with confidence the FD has done something substantial to stop my "friend" and other people from using this exploit. Thanks.
 
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