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If lies could be seen on the battlefield... you would be its bannerman [yesnod]

You run around after invisible, unmeasurable forces. I deal in facts, in science. Somebody here peddles lies all the time, but it's not me. You seem to think you can just decide what is real and what is not, according to what you wish were true.
 
You run around after invisible, unmeasurable forces. I deal in facts, in science. Somebody here peddles lies all the time, but it's not me. You seem to think you can just decide what is real and what is not, according to what you wish were true.
Last i looked Donald Trump won the Presidency!! This is and will always be a FACT!!
Make America Great Again!!
 

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It is neither a lie, nor did he cheat!! It is a FACT he won!!

Yes he did lied and was dishonest, yes by russia involvement, he won trough cheating, and yes he won because of the two first. What makes him unworthy of his position, and anyone associated to him, and his events are just like him? Involved in criminal act.
 
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Now Trump is going to try and cut Medicaid, food programs for low income people, aid to disabled veterans, tax credits for preschool and child care.

But hey, at least we can spend even MORE money on the military. AND we'll be able to build a truly worthless wall for billions of dollars... I'm interested to see how his supporters are going to spin this. How is he not a mainstream Republican politician again?
 
Yes he did lied and was dishonest, yes by russia involvement, he won trough cheating, and yes he won because of the two first. What makes him unworthy of his position, and anyone associated to him, and his events are just like him? Involved in criminal act.
There is no evidence, and you are assuming the verdict before the hearing!! you are simply jumping ahead of yourself!!

Donald Trumps worth was determined by the Voters of America!! this too is a Fact!! and not an assumption nor a theory FACT!!
 
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Yes he did lied and was dishonest, yes by russia involvement, he won trough cheating, and yes he won because of the two first. What makes him unworthy of his position, and anyone associated to him, and his events are just like him? Involved in criminal act.

Prove it! as far as I'm concerned unless he is in front of a judge, he is not guilty of anything, same goes for Hillary Clinton.

If we should follow your example we could just start to throw people we don't like in jail, just because we don't like them, my list is very very long if that would imply.
 
Prove it! as far as I'm concerned unless he is in front of a judge, he is not guilty of anything, same goes for Hillary Clinton.

If we should follow your example we could just start to throw people we don't like in jail, just because we don't like them, my list is very very long if that would imply.

Admittedly he (or rather his companies) have been in front of a judge a whole lot of times. Most of them didn't end well.
 

Minonian

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There is no evidence, and you are assuming the verdict before the hearing!! you are simply jumping ahead of yourself!!

Donald Trumps worth was determined by the Voters of America!! this too is a Fact!! and not an assumption nor a theory FACT!!

Yes. there is evidence.
 
Prove it! as far as I'm concerned unless he is in front of a judge, he is not guilty of anything, same goes for Hillary Clinton.

If we should follow your example we could just start to throw people we don't like in jail, just because we don't like them, my list is very very long if that would imply.


So here's the problem: Trump sits atop the apparatus that is supposed to be investigating him. And he's been actively trying to stifle the investigation by firing Comey and warning the Director of National Intelligence and the director of the NSA to deny any evidence of collusion between the campaign and the Russians -- source

So, how can we expect a fair investigation followed by a fair ruling on guilt or innocence while Trump and the GOP are actively trying to subvert the process?
 

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So here's the problem: Trump sits atop the apparatus that is supposed to be investigating him. And he's been actively trying to stifle the investigation by firing Comey and warning the Director of National Intelligence and the director of the NSA to deny any evidence of collusion between the campaign and the Russians -- source

So, how can we expect a fair investigation followed by a fair ruling on guilt or innocence while Trump and the GOP are actively trying to subvert the process?

In short, he is trying to obscure the investigations against him. If this not a reason for a strong suspicion than i don't know what?
And he is also? said out right in the open he did this to stop the investigation. No way he can talk out himself of this.
 
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Minonian

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If we should follow your example we could just start to throw people we don't like in jail, just because we don't like them, my list is very very long if that would imply.
Sure! why not? that's what ignore list all about, so it's reason enough!

Besides, you too coming this lowly you against Trumph because you don't like him? Do you want to go any lover than this?
I'm obliged to love him? And there can't be any other reason like i dunno?! Because i think he is a crook and unfit?
 
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I'm uncertain if this specific event is tied to the speech. We would expect that attack to hit US soil.
If it is, AQ is more likely to be involved as they are more involved with Saudi Arabia.

The investigation will explain it, in time.

However the coincidence with Trump's speech and the fact that the Manchester concert cncerned an American pop star, asks questions
 

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Donald Trumps worth was determined by the Voters of America!!
Sorry, but the voters does not determined his worth, but simply chosen him to rule.
this too is a Fact!! and not an assumption nor a theory FACT!!

Yes it's a fact he chose to be a president, but his obstruction of the investigation against him, and russian involvement also a fact. And you saying there is no evidence? How is that?
 

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However the coincidence with Trump's speech and the fact that the Manchester concert cncerned an American pop star, asks questions
Between two event this loosely connected logically this far from each others? There are no necessarily a connection however there can be a very loose connection. but it's until proven otherwise is unlikely.
You need many cases to see the emerging pattern and say it with great but not 100% certainty, and even than you can be wrong, you can't be sure what's the real cause, so investigation / experimentation is necessary.
 
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However the coincidence with Trump's speech and the fact that the Manchester concert cncerned an American pop star, asks questions

The terrorist was British.

These types of weirdoes don't have grand master plans and aren't doing anything for some goal of a state. They're just twisted and warped individuals.
 
However the coincidence with Trump's speech and the fact that the Manchester concert cncerned an American pop star, asks questions

What the heck are you babbling on about? are you suggesting theres a connection with President Donald Trump's speech and the concert in Manchester?
This is the most ludicrous answer ive heard all week!!
 
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