Exploration - Zero to Hero in under 5 days

I'll be honest, after the 2.3 scan reward increases I'm surprised no one else thought about it; or if they did they wanted to keep it a "cult secret" or some nonsense so fdev wouldn't hit it with the nerf hammer as they often do right after someone publishes some thing like this.
Nah, I think several of us knew this was bound to happen even during the betas. It's just that nobody apparently wanted to go to the trouble of creating such a route. Plus there was already something from much earlier that could be used to a similar end: MattG's Great Earth-like World Tour.
Besides, how would Frontier even nerf this? If they decreased exploration payouts, there would be a large, and justified, outcry. They could increase the rank thresholds, but I wonder if they really could - perhaps they went with the "scan payouts contribute half points" approach because that was easier to do than tinkering with every character's remaining rank progression.

The only other way would be to jack the first discovery bonus up - say, have it be 500% instead of 50%. Then decrease the base prices. However, I don't think FD would want to do that, because as others have mentioned, the whole concept of first discoveries disadvantages people who go out later.

Well, like I said before, regardless of how it's calculated, the whole concept of exploration ranking doesn't fit well with the idea of actual exploration. Perhaps it might have been better to go with how it was in all the earlier Elite games, and have one Elite rating only (combat), but eh, who knows. Far too late for such anyway.


Oh, and you (Becky) are right that this is a good way of starting up any alts. The thing about exploration is that the barrier of entry is very low, and even a cheap Hauler can do quite well at it. More expensive ships equal more profit for trade and combat, but much less so for exploration. So, if you just want to get an alt geared up quick, it's probably the best method.
 
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I'll be honest, after the 2.3 scan reward increases I'm surprised no one else thought about it

They did :). I did a similar journey to visit ELWs and hit Elite before 2.3. I tweaked it for 2.3 but didn't get round to writing it up. Like yours, it doesn't stray more than 600LY from Sol... crazy. The pre-2.3 route went _much_ further.

or if they did they wanted to keep it a "cult secret" or some nonsense

I'm sure I'm not the only one who did similar - but mine was down to being too busy/lazy to post it. And now I don't need to, because yours is better written up :)

edit: ninja'd by marx :)
 
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Noice list. I did consider doing something similar, but, I found that plotting from an external list is too cumbersome, especially with this new and slower galaxy map we got with the 2.3 update. I then did a rough guesstimate on how much I'd make from just economy routing to untagged F class stars, using the filters on the route plotter. I figured it would be close to the same, maybe even better. I did a test run a couple weeks ago and the results were quite pleasing.
From 537 jumps to random F class stars I managed to average a bit over 500,000 cr per jump, very consistently. I only scanned planets likely to be in the goldilocks zone, water worlds, ammonia worlds and earth-likes. I also skipped any super cruise trip further than 20,000 Ls for one potential good planet or around 40-50,000 Ls for more than one. I made nearly 300 million credits with less than 20 hours of exploration!
I'll go for a second run next week, to see if I can find a level above/below the plane where there might be a higher rate of HMC planets.
The neat thing about this method is: You can do it with a D rated Sidewinder, as you're doing economy route plotting.
One more coincidental thing I noticed was, during the four days I did this trip, I spent almost two days doing fastest route and the rest of the time economy. I had a noticeably higher rate of HMC planets when doing long jumps (46 LY average vs 5 LY average). I know it sounds crazy, but, maybe the route plotter is set to target systems that are more likely to contain life, if the jump range allows it? I'll test this a few times more, too. This could after all have been a coincidence of that distance from the galactic plane/fringe thing. :)
Anyways. Exploration is definitely a big money maker these days!

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This is a table I made to count the valuables I scanned. The headers are pretty self-explanatory, I hope.
ELW for earth-like, TWW for terraformable water world, WW for water world, THMC for terraformable high metal content and AW for ammonia world.
The last three are "Double" for what I consider double value planets, ELW's and TWW's, "Single" for the regular WW's, THMC's and AW's and the Total is the sum of all jumps, including the systems where I didn't scan anything.
https://1drv.ms/x/s!Aoebz_xr1qIahKwfwvSJB8r3tnb69Q
 
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Those tags weren't a thing from day 1; they were added later - and even then it would have given the "early adopters" an unfair advantage - only having to go as far as Maia to get their "first discovered tags"; with each new generation of explorers the bar will be set further and further out as more systems are scanned and "discovered".

The way it is currently, the bar is the same for everyone - and that's how it should be.

Yes and Columbus couldn't get into the history books by sailing to North Africa and early adopters didn't have 60+ LY jump ranges...

Exploration has historically been about NEW discovery and with less than 1% of the galaxy having been visited I will comfortably maintain my viewpoint knowing full well that it may not be a majority opinion.
 
Mods usually redirect exploration based topics here, but this thread could be redirected to newbs forum, or Dangerous Discussion, as this thread has NOTHING to do with proper exploring.. just saying.
To be fair, your elitist (no pun intended) comment could just as easily be redirected to the trash bin. :D
This is what the exploration forum is about. Find better ways to do it and share it with others.
 
More rep OP, but it has to be virtual now!

I briefly became a two ship CMDR for the first time. I bought a Dolphin to follow some of your route, but four jumps out from Hibachi HQ I decided I hated it and went back for the good old Keelback. I had to drag Lexi (my SLF pilot) out of the bar, but we have now made 24 MCr in about five hours (I tend to go off on tangents...). I have never been anywhere near this rich :)

Not sure what I am going to do with all this cash though. I've tried quite a few ships but the good old Keelback and I seem to click.
 
Maybe for those that want Elite to stay the way it was at the beginning, with nearly the whole galaxy unexplored, there needs to be a new galaxy to explore, perhaps a new one every five years or so. Then those that have a real pioneer spirit can go there.

It would need a terrific BGS to be scalable, and the cost of inter-galactic travel would have to be high... and there would need to be a lot of station- and settlement- building functions... but maybe one day...
 
TopCat> if we run out of stars to explore they can always send people off to Andromeda; I know the backend is capable of it - I'm sure it's on the road map ;)
 
I don't think anyone here, nor any of our great great great great great great great great great great great grandchildren will have to worry about the game running out of systems to discover.... :D
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Thanks for the info, really helpful for a new character.

I am making an alt character for small worlds, as soon as I had a hauler sorted I went to Maia. I then did 1st 10 systems and recieved cr 10 million. An hour or so more and will have my ship.
 
+rep for this wonderful detailed post. unlike these other people who only wish to say negative things and talk about how it was "back in their day," i will say well done and keep up the good work. This will be really helpful to new players and veterans alike looking to work on their exploration rank.
 
+rep for this wonderful detailed post. unlike these other people who only wish to say negative things and talk about how it was "back in their day," i will say well done and keep up the good work. This will be really helpful to new players and veterans alike looking to work on their exploration rank.

They don't say negative things, they say that the Exploration rank has very little to do with actual exploration :)
 
They don't say negative things, they say that the Exploration rank has very little to do with actual exploration :)
If we ignore the cluster fudge that is missions rank influence, exploration ranks post 2.3 has everything to do with exploration, I think. If you want to get paid, report back to Big Corp with a lot of valuable planet data. Big Corp doesn't pay you for finding an oddly shaped mountain or misty asteroid ring.
 
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If we ignore the cluster fudge that is missions rank influence, exploration ranks post 2.3 has everything to do with exploration, I think. If you want to get paid, report back to Big Corp with a lot of valuable planet data. Big Corp doesn't pay you for finding an oddly shaped mountain or misty asteroid ring.

The heart of the problem. Lore Elite is about being the best of the best. Game Elite is about racking up numbers. And the original game was much heavier on the lore side of things than most of its contemporaries (and had a social scene, of sorts) so there's no way of establishing a clear primacy of one over the other.

(You could, for instance, consider the Space Trader's Flight Training Manual to be the prime source of canon, followed closely by the game and at a very long remove by The Dark Wheel. And you'd be right. But there are misguided souls who'd disagree.)
 
Great tutorial, especially for those who want to give their other account(s) access to Shinrarta. Doing this right now on my 2nd acc, already at 100th system. Works great.
 
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