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Have been skeptical since I saw the first sneak peek trailer.
So what did you actually like about it then?
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That or Scott just pulled a George Lucas according to Angry Joe ;-)
I liked it. It was a bit like Horizons - I may have not liked some of the original decisions, but the overall film was not that bad. And I am also of the odd bunch who liked Prometheus, though the stupidity of that expedition crew is immersion breaking. I think Joe summed it up why it is not conveying the alien experience - the characters are paper thin. We don't care for them at all. Also we're on the planet so plenty of space to run (deceptively so), and the tension is just not that great. It is also very predictable. That said, Covenant is colonists, not scientists or marines. It is easy to justify what happened in the film by the events that it opens up with. Though... we could do away with the flute lesson and synths kissing on the mouth, really. All in all that film was kinda bound to play out like this, and I found it quite creative actually given the limitations Prometheus set for it.
On the whizzbangs - I am not entirely convinced that the cgi was good. It was believable though, so that should suffice I think. The visuals are really pretty, and the sounds are good. Also, my wife who is not into sci-fi, liked that movie too.
All in all - good movie, but don't expect the original Alien which is for many a nostalgic title, like first Elites, too...
I don't know, I enjoyed it
Reinforced my hate towards WY and I like I can put more blame on them.
And all things considered while the various fan theories on the aliens and their origins, life cycle e.t.c, that isn't really 'blocked' by any of this in any way as I see it.
The Xenomorph have often been quoted as the perfect killing machine, and yeah, why can't that be designed? Doesn't cheapen them in any way in my book.
And all things considered while the various fan theories on the aliens and their origins, life cycle e.t.c, that isn't really 'blocked' by any of this in any way as I see it.
The Xenomorph have often been quoted as the perfect killing machine, and yeah, why can't that be designed? Doesn't cheapen them in any way in my book.
I enjoy Angry joe and agree with him on many things, but yeah, on this I do not entirely agree, I respect his view, but i do not agree with it, as described in my tag, I see it as more believable then such a race 'evolving' and spreading on its own.
On the CGI, it is mostly because we are in uncanny territory, and bridging the gap entirely is...very difficult.
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This apparently also suffers from "stupid character syndrome".
http://www.cracked.com/blog/6-super-dumb-decisions-characters-make-in-alien-covenant/
It's a carnivorous orgy ?
Yeah, and while there's a big question mark with some lore revealed, I enjoy it, been a while since we've really seen the aliens for the danger they are.
Yes, distrust to begin
I don't think that's all that questionable... the story checks out, much more better than Prometheus' one (which I liked, too). I can easily "defend" (though I don't have a dog in this race tbh) the plot: these people were colonists, not marines, with only two guys trained as security so not really professional space marines. They were acting under heavy emotional stress of losing the captain and the disliked one taking over by rank, they were misled by the radio signal of unmistakably human origin emitting from the planet hence they only checked if they can breathe and kinda assumed they will be okay. Also there is faith of the new captain subtly in play, and this being a philosophical film (admit it, flute scene end of story) it may have occurred to him that god has led them there... Imagine if you were 20kLy from the bubble and heard a traffic control voice greeting you. Which currently is kinda possible with colonia and the new asteroid bases which were a nice surprise for me on my 5k palin pilgrmage. But I digress. The events that follow, discovering that the planet is actually hostile, more deaths (and in a horrible way I may add), leading to nervous breakdowns and clouded judgement. It really checks out, no matter how salty Alien fans try to refute it. I couldn't "defend" the prometheus the same way because they went to a different kind of mission, which was paid by someone of almost infinite wealth who could hire the best of the best, so... no ;-)
As to the anticlimactic lore reveals I think it still checks out:
I think David as the creator of the current xenomorphs is disappointing, true, but still checks out. He was a rogue AI, which had visions and dreams, and also was completely bonkers. He might have lacked understanding of the Proto-tech he was experimenting with, and used our crude techniques (in crude conditions, it looked like the civilisation was not that advanced after all and I suspect they're not the original Engineers) and ended up with the current xenomorph cycle. He also has a hatred for humanity, so he could purposedly engineer the xenos that way to instill more fear and terror into his victims. Face it, the quick deaths and deadly efficiency of the proto-morphs is kinda... boring. They wiped an entire city in minutes, and spread throughout the planet in quick succession, so that 10 years later its a desolate place. Which is interesting because without "meat" the ecosystem would probably break in around four years. But let's handwave that.
All in all if someone got a case of "Mass Effect Andromeda rabies" (its symptoms are yelling: "mass effect andromeda sucks! I know I have seen the MEMES!") I would recommend actually watching the film and making up your mind about it after
[same goes for ME: Andromeda, too].