Alien archeology and other mysteries: Thread 10 - The Canonn

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PanPiper.

PanPiper.
Jorki Rasalas said:
Hi Cmdr
As the barnacle expert what is your interpretation of the event? It seems to me that this event is only occuring at double barnacle sites. If those are scanned the first provides a message while the second always states already scanned. It seems as though the lifecycle of barnacles might be a single cone which grows (an underground root network) until it then produces a second cone and set of spikes so they are just one entity, which then matures to the point where this flowership event can occur.
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It has been also observed at the other 2 single barnacles in this system also. No other system so far.

This system is also strange as the barnacles dont have a cycle.

Discovered them Ripe in C, still remained Ripe in A. No new scan was possible after the last cycle change , which is odd, until friday when the first encounter happened and not on a cycle change.
So far they have not cycled but will have more infomation after the next cycle B which is due in 3 days time.
They also are missing the barnacle scan data package in transactions tab ,its value to be linked to the ripe phase.

That could either be a bug , or the a reason they have only visited this system so far. The barnacles have not been barren yet, if they are ripe on this thursday , then they will so far be eternally ripe with MA , all the time......

It appears the first scan beam of the barnacle , is then returned by a single beam of light after from below ground in the barnacle.
The beam or energy flow or fluid, with balls of light etc, similar to lightning as others suggested, but more fluidic.
Upward flow into the ship. Seems the Unknown ship is collecting data/energy/material/fluid ? or all of those in the same medium...

We need some way to take a sample of that energy in a ideal world. A science limpet would be a great invension.. take samples etc.

 Possibly the MA is the flower in a sense, the petals of the flower. The light refraction is only on the MA, not the rest of the barnacle. Fireflies also around the MA pods and barnacle core.
Could be the MA harvest sunlight , need for energy on the planet to transmute the materials from the other lesser spikes into the fluidic green veins in the spikes and main barnacle body.
Energy/fuel/stuff ?? which the fireflies then store in the barnacle body. awaiting collection.

without a sample though,, just guesswork from observation.
 
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CookieJarviz

CookieJarviz
tinfoil

So...... in F:FE we reversed engineered ECM from thargoid technology. ECMs disable missiles/torpedoes makes them lose power and lock and then wobble or whatever.

SO. WHAT IF THARGOIDS ARE USING ECMS TO COUNTER OUR ELECTRONICS! SHUTTING OUR SHIPS DOWN AND CAUSING US TO LOSE LOCK AND POWER! CASE CLOSED! WE KNOW WHATS CAUSING US TO STOP! WE CAN COUNTER IT! ​looks at FD waiting for response
 
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Brrokk

Brrokk
Data from obelisks

I have a question, hope this is the right place.

Having visited the first alien site a few times, I now have a load of "Obelisk pattern alpha data" etc. in my data inventory. Can I safely delete these to make room for more useful data, or might they come in handy one day?
 

Factabulous

Factabulous
Brrokk said:
I have a question, hope this is the right place.

Having visited the first alien site a few times, I now have a load of "Obelisk pattern alpha data" etc. in my data inventory. Can I safely delete these to make room for more useful data, or might they come in handy one day?
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Trash 'em, you will get plenty more and they have no current use* - more in the FAQ (link in my sig)

* they have been used in CGs before, but you can always get more
 

Jorki Rasalas

Jorki Rasalas
PanPiper. said:
It has been also observed at the other 2 single barnacles in this system also. No other system so far.

This system is also strange as the barnacles dont have a cycle.

Discovered them Ripe in C, still remained Ripe in A. No new scan was possible after the last cycle change , which is odd, until friday when the first encounter happened and not on a cycle change.
So far they have not cycled but will have more infomation after the next cycle B which is due in 3 days time.
They also are missing the barnacle scan data package in transactions tab ,its value to be linked to the ripe phase.

That could either be a bug , or the a reason they have only visited this system so far. The barnacles have not been barren yet, if they are ripe on this thursday , then they will so far be eternally ripe with MA , all the time......

It appears the first scan beam of the barnacle , is then returned by a single beam of light after from below ground in the barnacle.
The beam or energy flow or fluid, with balls of light etc, similar to lightning as others suggested, but more fluidic.
Upward flow into the ship. Seems the Unknown ship is collecting data/energy/material/fluid ? or all of those in the same medium...

We need some way to take a sample of that energy in a ideal world. A science limpet would be a great invension.. take samples etc.

 Possibly the MA is the flower in a sense, the petals of the flower. The light refraction is only on the MA, not the rest of the barnacle. Fireflies also around the MA pods and barnacle core.
Could be the MA harvest sunlight , need for energy on the planet to transmute the materials from the other lesser spikes into the fluidic green veins in the spikes and main barnacle body.
Energy/fuel/stuff ?? which the fireflies then store in the barnacle body. awaiting collection.

without a sample though,, just guesswork from observation.
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Ah thanks. I wasn't aware of the events at single barneys. Yes definitely, some form of energy transfer barney->flowership when triggered by the spiral beam from flowership->barney. I suspect the key to it all is in the fireflies. But yes, we do need better tools to do data gathering for scientific analysis.
 

Huros

Huros
CookieJarviz said:
tinfoil

So...... in F:FE we reversed engineered ECM from thargoid technology. ECMs disable missiles/torpedoes makes them lose power and lock and then wobble or whatever.

SO. WHAT IF THARGOIDS ARE USING ECMS TO COUNTER OUR ELECTRONICS! SHUTTING OUR SHIPS DOWN AND CAUSING US TO LOSE LOCK AND POWER! CASE CLOSED! WE KNOW WHATS CAUSING US TO STOP! WE CAN COUNTER IT! ​looks at FD waiting for response
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Meta alloy hull option?
 

evaldo10

evaldo10
PanPiper. said:
It has been also observed at the other 2 single barnacles in this system also. No other system so far.

This system is also strange as the barnacles dont have a cycle.

Discovered them Ripe in C, still remained Ripe in A. No new scan was possible after the last cycle change , which is odd, until friday when the first encounter happened and not on a cycle change.
So far they have not cycled but will have more infomation after the next cycle B which is due in 3 days time.
They also are missing the barnacle scan data package in transactions tab ,its value to be linked to the ripe phase.

That could either be a bug , or the a reason they have only visited this system so far. The barnacles have not been barren yet, if they are ripe on this thursday , then they will so far be eternally ripe with MA , all the time......

It appears the first scan beam of the barnacle , is then returned by a single beam of light after from below ground in the barnacle.
The beam or energy flow or fluid, with balls of light etc, similar to lightning as others suggested, but more fluidic.
Upward flow into the ship. Seems the Unknown ship is collecting data/energy/material/fluid ? or all of those in the same medium...

We need some way to take a sample of that energy in a ideal world. A science limpet would be a great invension.. take samples etc.

 Possibly the MA is the flower in a sense, the petals of the flower. The light refraction is only on the MA, not the rest of the barnacle. Fireflies also around the MA pods and barnacle core.
Could be the MA harvest sunlight , need for energy on the planet to transmute the materials from the other lesser spikes into the fluidic green veins in the spikes and main barnacle body.
Energy/fuel/stuff ?? which the fireflies then store in the barnacle body. awaiting collection.

without a sample though,, just guesswork from observation.
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The sound at the Barnacles appears to be different also, there is a rumbling and then a gassy release sound every minute or so.

I think the Barnacles have ripened ready for collection. The Fireflies might be some sort of indicator that the Barnacle is ready for extraction.
 

evaldo10

evaldo10
PanPiper. said:
It has been also observed at the other 2 single barnacles in this system also. No other system so far.

This system is also strange as the barnacles dont have a cycle.

Discovered them Ripe in C, still remained Ripe in A. No new scan was possible after the last cycle change , which is odd, until friday when the first encounter happened and not on a cycle change.
So far they have not cycled but will have more infomation after the next cycle B which is due in 3 days time.
They also are missing the barnacle scan data package in transactions tab ,its value to be linked to the ripe phase.

That could either be a bug , or the a reason they have only visited this system so far. The barnacles have not been barren yet, if they are ripe on this thursday , then they will so far be eternally ripe with MA , all the time......

It appears the first scan beam of the barnacle , is then returned by a single beam of light after from below ground in the barnacle.
The beam or energy flow or fluid, with balls of light etc, similar to lightning as others suggested, but more fluidic.
Upward flow into the ship. Seems the Unknown ship is collecting data/energy/material/fluid ? or all of those in the same medium...

We need some way to take a sample of that energy in a ideal world. A science limpet would be a great invension.. take samples etc.

 Possibly the MA is the flower in a sense, the petals of the flower. The light refraction is only on the MA, not the rest of the barnacle. Fireflies also around the MA pods and barnacle core.
Could be the MA harvest sunlight , need for energy on the planet to transmute the materials from the other lesser spikes into the fluidic green veins in the spikes and main barnacle body.
Energy/fuel/stuff ?? which the fireflies then store in the barnacle body. awaiting collection.

without a sample though,, just guesswork from observation.
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I always put the light refraction down to the MA being more of a Sap and the Barnacle being more like a plant.
 

AndyJ

AndyJ
So I've had 5 "live" encounters now - all in Mobius and not counting playing about in BL1P's friday night feed with the captive thargoid :D
These were all at the double barnacle site on Pleiades Sector OI-T C3-7 , planet A 6, co-ords -42.78, -21.72

They don't appear at set times - On saturday they appeared at 10:30am and 12:24 game time, but did not reappear at the same time sunday.

It doesn't seem to matter if the barnacle spikes are trashed and the meta-alloys are gone. My last one was at a totally trashed site.


It strongly looks like the event is linked to dropping out of orbital cruise and landing. I had 2 events last night each within 10 minutes of dropping out of Orbital Cruise and landing. This morning, I didn't trigger one myself this way but another commander flew in and I decided to wait - sure enough a visitor arrived within about 5 minutes.

So I'd suggest not just sitting and waiting if there is nothing happening. I left an instance going for about 12 hours later Saturday and didn't get any more visitors.
If nothing happens for 20 minutes or so, and no commanders have flow in - try heading back into space and returning.

Btw. new visitors should scan the barnacle with the SRV scanner to obtain a left-panel navigation marker for the "unknown barnacle".

Departing Thargons leave a wake signature that can be scanned too, so I'm currently off to fit one on my ship!

HTH :D
 
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Factabulous

Factabulous
AndyJ said:
It strongly looks like the event is linked to dropping out of orbital cruise and landing. I had 2 events last night each within 10 minutes of dropping out of Orbital Cruise and landing. This morning, I didn't trigger one myself this way but another commander flew in and I decided to wait - sure enough a visitor arrived within about 5 minutes.

So I'd suggest not just sitting and waiting if there is nothing happening. I left an instance going for about 12 hours later Saturday and didn't get any more visitors.
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Nice info! Do you relog when you leave, or stay in? I vaguely remember ppl saying you would stay in the same instance up to a certain distance away from the planet when we were using timing 'features' to find ruin locations, so that might be part of the trigger?

(So nice to see ppl trying things, rather than just waiting with their popcorn:))
 
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evaldo10

evaldo10
AndyJ said:
So I've had 5 "live" encounters now - all in Mobius and not counting playing about in BL1P's friday night feed with the captive thargoid :D
These were all at the double barnacle site on Pleiades Sector OI-T C3-7 , planet A 6, co-ords -42.78, -21.72

They don't appear at set times - On saturday they appeared at 10:30am and 12:24 game time, but did not reappear at the same time sunday.

It doesn't seem to matter if the barnacle spikes are trashed and the meta-alloys are gone. My last one was at a totally trashed site.


It strongly looks like the event is linked to dropping out of orbital cruise and landing. I had 2 events last night each within 10 minutes of dropping out of Orbital Cruise and landing. This morning, I didn't trigger one myself this way but another commander flew in and I decided to wait - sure enough a visitor arrived within about 5 minutes.

So I'd suggest not just sitting and waiting if there is nothing happening. I left an instance going for about 12 hours later Saturday and didn't get any more visitors.
If nothing happens for 20 minutes or so, and no commanders have flow in - try heading back into space and returning.

Btw. new visitors should scan the barnacle with the SRV scanner to obtain a left-panel navigation marker for the "unknown barnacle".

Departing Thargons leave a wake signature that can be scanned too, so I'm currently off to fit one on my ship!

HTH :D
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Working in pairs then would probably get the best results. Have someone land at the site and the other constantly ferry between supercruise and the planet or yoiu can take it in turns. We will try this and see if the occurance is more so in pairs or solo.

Last night in open over a couple of hours we had around 8 pilots at the Barnacle site Pleiades Sector OI-T C3-7 , planet A 6, co-ords -42.78, -21.72 with numerous people coming and going ( badly i might add ). This continued until a wanted pirate decided he was bored and started killing ships ( Always dismiss your ship ). He even decided he was going to kill my ikkle SRV, that earned him a red flag on our Enemies list !!!!. Lets just hope he is there tonight and not reading this forum Mwahahaha
 

BL1P

BL1P
The colour difference between UAs and UPs.
Probably common knowledge but thought I would post anyway :)

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Archon Valec

Archon Valec
So I just had my own Barncale/Flowership experience that was interesting. I had positioned my SRV directly on top of the barnacle, shields off, with 2 MA in the hold. I can confirm 2 things at least for science:


1. The main beam does zero damage or anything with a direct strike...
2. The Anti-grav force is very strong... got sucked right up to the ship and pinned to it's underside

For some reason Shadowplay did not record, but took a few quick screencaps, but its way too bright to see much of anything :(.
Here's the pics if anyone who is decent with photo manipulation wants to play around with them:

Sorry for the terrible event coverage.

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abyssdj

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Good to see the knobs are out in force again in open. Somebody drop KuzSan's cutter for me at Pleiades Sector OI-T C3-7 A 6...
 

Archon Valec

Archon Valec
abyssdj said:
Good to see the knobs are out in force again in open. Somebody drop KuzSan's cutter for me at Pleiades Sector OI-T C3-7 A 6...
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He got me the other day too, showed up in a wing of 3

Any ship with a "I.B." tag can be treated as hostile.

I.B. = Interstellar s (Ganking Crew)
 
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