General / Off-Topic Manflu - a theory

I hate to generalize about genders, but in certain physiological aspects there definitely is a difference between men and women. The magnitude of differences might fluctuate, but there is an overall trend.

Men have greater muscle mass, thus have more red blood cells because their bodies have greater oxygen requirements, right? Right!

Accepted RBC levels:
Male: 4.7 to 6.1 million cells/mcL (4.7 to 6.1 x 10^12/L)
Female: 4.2 to 5.4 million cells/mcL ( 4.2 to 5.4 x 10^12/L)

Hemoglobin:
Male: 13.8 to 17.2 gm/dL (138 to 172 g/L)
Female: 12.1 to 15.1 gm/dL (121 to 151 g/L)

So if women, on average, have fewer red blood cells per liter does it follow that they have more of something else such as white blood cells? Maybe more inflammatory cytokines?

Well:

http://www.pnas.org/content/111/2/869

It would appear that women do indeed have a stronger immune system than men, at least when it comes to certain pathogens. This also makes sense, as not only do female bodies have to deal with the rigors of pregnancy and other such icky activities, but women are (speaking from an evolutionary perspective) much less expendable as a genetic unit.

But guys, it gets even worse:

Moreover, males with the highest testosterone levels and expression of related gene signatures exhibited the lowest antibody responses to influenza vaccination.

The research clearly shows the more hard and manly you are the worse your manflu is going to be. As I have said to my lady, anyone can get out of bed and make their own cornflakes, but it takes a real man to admit he is beaten and cry until he has cornflakes brought to him while lying under the fluffy warm duvet with a pillow over his head.

So, fellas, next time you're ill rest up in bed free from guilt, free from the feeling that you're just exploiting your sickness to get some time watching crap movies while your girlfriend makes you coffee (though gives it to you with a disapproving frown), and free from accusations of "manflu".

Because science says, nay demands, that you really are sicker!
 
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And that is why biological warfare exists. It is highly efficient in taking down the enemies manly soldiers quick and efficiently.

Just go sneeze in their baracks and then invade a week later.
 

verminstar

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Erm...the facts and figures dont take into account all the wondrous joyous times of having MS. When ye have that, even a minor flu will feel like the ebola virus.

Damn I love mother natures sense of humour sometimes ^
 
It's not just the Physiological aspect that we are different, it's also Pyschological aspect too - but this can be broken down into one simple sentence really and that is - Women think they are superior and Men know they are not.
 

Minonian

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And that is why biological warfare exists. It is highly efficient in taking down the enemies manly soldiers quick and efficiently.

Just go sneeze in their baracks and then invade a week later.
They are not kept throwing in dead and decomposing animals sometimes even humans to the enemy fortifications for nothing. This is an ages old trick in the book of warfare.

Edit; But do not forget this also confirms the ages old social standup and theory what means while males are for the muscle and brain job, (hunting and fighting reqires better concentration and higher intelligence!!!) in the mean while womans? And also? Brain uses up the most oxygene.
 
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Minonian

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It's not just the Physiological aspect that we are different, it's also Pyschological aspect too - but this can be broken down into one simple sentence really and that is - Women think they are superior and Men know they are not.
Speak for yourself. They are just want to beat into you and the society. And you are a fool if you let them to do it.


Congratulations Fuzzy. I think you just found the main reason why the most intelligent mans and altogether people are so sickly.
And if a relatively weak immune system to compensate his weakness starts to overdo himself, what's is likely, or just get a sickness what's hard to rid of it at the first time?
Than that's when you get the kind of people like? :)

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The cure? There is any known switch what's regulates how many white and red blood cell your body generates? Forget about immune suppressants and boosters. If anyone have this kind of problems this is where it must be caught, and remedied. I can live with the tough to be a little dumber, if this means i can live a healthy life, or just simply find a way to compensate my sicknesses.

If your immune system identifying your own body as an enemy, because something taught him this? Than make him forget the wrong lesson! As far i remember white blood cells are literally teaching each others. But if they can't? :)
And the same goes to most of the allergy.
THX fuzzy i thinking about this problems for a while this was the last piece of the jigsaw. :)

[video=youtube;VlLGJOoFqFk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlLGJOoFqFk[/video]

Our "gift" still remains but with the nitrous oxide turned off? We don't burn ourself out!
 
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I hate to generalize about genders, but in certain physiological aspects there definitely is a difference between men and women. The magnitude of differences might fluctuate, but there is an overall trend.

Men have greater muscle mass, thus have more red blood cells because their bodies have greater oxygen requirements, right? Right!

Accepted RBC levels:
Male: 4.7 to 6.1 million cells/mcL (4.7 to 6.1 x 10^12/L)
Female: 4.2 to 5.4 million cells/mcL ( 4.2 to 5.4 x 10^12/L)

Hemoglobin:
Male: 13.8 to 17.2 gm/dL (138 to 172 g/L)
Female: 12.1 to 15.1 gm/dL (121 to 151 g/L)

So if women, on average, have fewer red blood cells per liter does it follow that they have more of something else such as white blood cells? Maybe more inflammatory cytokines?

Well:

http://www.pnas.org/content/111/2/869

It would appear that women do indeed have a stronger immune system than men, at least when it comes to certain pathogens. This also makes sense, as not only do female bodies have to deal with the rigors of pregnancy and other such icky activities, but women are (speaking from an evolutionary perspective) much less expendable as a genetic unit.

But guys, it gets even worse:



The research clearly shows the more hard and manly you are the worse your manflu is going to be. As I have said to my lady, anyone can get out of bed and make their own cornflakes, but it takes a real man to admit he is beaten and cry until he has cornflakes brought to him while lying under the fluffy warm duvet with a pillow over his head.

So, fellas, next time you're ill rest up in bed free from guilt, free from the feeling that you're just exploiting your sickness to get some time watching crap movies while your girlfriend makes you coffee (though gives it to you with a disapproving frown), and free from accusations of "manflu".

Because science says, nay demands, that you really are sicker!

So don't get vaccinated :D

Men got a shorter lifespan than women, that is actually good.
Men are better to focus at one target, maybe from when we were hunters, women are better to multitask.

To make a long story short, yes we are different, and that is just fine.
 
Man flu is just a myth. It is just flu or a cold. Just like any other illness we all can get. Having it as something gender specific is just rubbish.
 
Whatever you do in yer spare time is your business m8, I wont judge. What do you use to fill the bras with? I use little silk fluffy things cos anything cotton gives me nipple rash ^

Try using strong balloons filled with water. It looks more realistic when you want to let your inner princess run free!

Man flu is just a myth. It is just flu or a cold. Just like any other illness we all can get. Having it as something gender specific is just rubbish.

Ovarian cancer? Testicular cancer? And there are plenty of illnesses which effect one gender disproportionately more than the other. Read here.

I think there is a very clear difference in how common illnesses effect each gender though, and men require more sympathy when they contract flu.
 
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I wonder if giving testosterone to women might ameliorate their autoimmune diseases. (Can't see them lining up for that! )
It's just one more reason taking muscle enhancers is a bad idea.

Dunno if they tested specifically that but the former Soviet bloc including the GDR doped their female athletes in some disciplines frequently with testosterone. Rumors say that they had to shave every morning. :D
 

Minonian

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Try using strong balloons filled with water. It looks more realistic when you want to let your inner princess run free!



Ovarian cancer? Testicular cancer? And there are plenty of illnesses which effect one gender disproportionately more than the other. Read here.

I think there is a very clear difference in how common illnesses effect each gender though, and men require more sympathy when they contract flu.
Our body brain and immune system's buildup and behavior is entirely different. Not even the Autistic spectrum touches us in the same way, it's more common amongst man.
 
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