General / Off-Topic We are not from East Africa after all?

[Yaffle]

Fish it is rumoured (theorised) only have a 3 second memory;

Nope. Well, it is rumoured but it's utter rubbish. That's not a theory.

so why do sardines return to the same place every year to be slaughtered by dolphins - you'd think (given evolution) they would learn

What does an individual's ability to learn have to do with evolution?

Evolution is a theory, it is not fact at all, as there are so many unanswered questions.

Please look up the word theory and what it means.

 

[Yaffle]

What i'm not getting it, how anyone can say a process of development and refinement is magic?

magic is when you getting a robot out of the big blue without any kind of prelude, but this is ain't true even in case of today's robotics. The process of development can be observed in there too.

I'm waiting for the argument that entropy (another theory) would dictate that things can't get more complex without energy being added. Usually I ask the claimant to stay up all night and think about that. At some point the answer will dawn on them.

 

[Adept]

Fish it is rumoured (theorised) only have a 3 second memory; so why do sardines return to the same place every year to be slaughtered by dolphins - you'd think (given evolution) they would learn and why do salmon return to the same river to die after ten years or so?

Evolution is a theory, it is not fact at all, as there are so many unanswered questions.

Jesus wept! You think because you vaguely remember some rumour about a 3 second memory (which is , including in Goldfish) that it must be the scientific consensus? ... words fail me.

As for the "Theory of Evolution" (say it like that, you'll sound a little more like you know what you're doing) one of the most, if not the most rigorously tested scientific theory. You might as well doubt classical mechanics or the three laws of Thermodynamics. That makes about as much sense, which is to say none at all.

Nothing in Biology Makes Sense Except in the Light of Evolution

 

[lysan]

This thread is slowly side tracking, but anyways I'm a man, my memory is reset after 7 days, please keep that in mind, my wife knows this is a fact

We don't know jack, we know bits and pieces still there is a lot we don't know.

I still wonder about many things, and science do not have the answer. Our history is not what we think it is in many cases, just look at architecture's around the world, combine that with the construction knowledge the archaeologist say was present at the time it was build and you got a big ?

 

[6xes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOfRN0KihOU

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Evolution-Dummies-Greg-Krukonis-PhD/dp/0470117737


Enjoy o7

One could could use the analogy of the Game Elite Dangerous to both Debunk evolution and verify Creation
Elite Dangerous 1.1 all the way to Elite Dangerous horizons 2.4 is merely all the variations of a game.
same way with Fish,animals,insect,dinosaurs and humans

the reality still remains... it required a person to create the game... afterall it would be mere non-sense it created itself!!
buk buk ba-kerk!!

 

[Yaffle]

One could could use the analogy of the Game Elite Dangerous to both Debunk evolution and verify Creation
Elite Dangerous 1.1 all the way to Elite Dangerous horizons 2.4 is merely all the variations of a game.
same way with Fish,animals,insect,dinosaurs and humans

the reality still remains... it required a person to create the game... afterall it would be mere non-sense it created itself!!
buk buk ba-kerk!!

Only that has nothing to do with evolution at all, so the comparison fails at the first hurdle. Evolution has no goal, no foresight, no intent. It's a process just as milk turning sour, the earth having an orbit, or the sun fusing hydrogen. It's not directed. It had no aim give flight to birds, and no aim in taking it off some of them.

Also, as Ben's video pointed out we're not evolved from fish or dinosaurs, and we are not 'more evolved' than anything else alive. We share a common ancestor with them, that's all.

 

[lysan]

One could could use the analogy of the Game Elite Dangerous to both Debunk evolution and verify Creation
Elite Dangerous 1.1 all the way to Elite Dangerous horizons 2.4 is merely all the variations of a game.
same way with Fish,animals,insect,dinosaurs and humans

the reality still remains... it required a person to create the game... afterall it would be mere non-sense it created itself!!
buk buk ba-kerk!!

GOD is the universe, the energy force that floats through everything, not some dude with a white beard floating on a cloud.
However there are good forces and evil forces in the universe. We sometimes call them + and -

but now it's getting complicated and we actually don't know and return to opinions

 

[CMDR Valleys]

Thanks, you made me laugh for the fist time today. Thanks Man needed that LOL

 

[Minonian]

I'm waiting for the argument that entropy (another theory) would dictate that things can't get more complex without energy being added. Usually I ask the claimant to stay up all night and think about that. At some point the answer will dawn on them.

And if you give em a bucket ultra strong coffe the answer also dawn them.

 

[6xes]

I'm waiting for the argument that entropy (another theory) would dictate that things can't get more complex without energy being added. Usually I ask the claimant to stay up all night and think about that. At some point the answer will dawn on them.

Entropy although the 2nd law of thermo-dynamics, it is also a bit of a paradox... contemplate this

Luke 21:33

Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will not pass away.

 

[Minonian]

Ok... let's prove him wrong shall we?

Someone please delete 6xes last post. Or just wait a few million years until a chiseled stone tablet turns into dust.

Well? Yeah! This is a double paradox. If his post not deleted?
Meh! My point made anyway. .P

 

[Gully Foyle]

I will always be skeptical of any human remains being dated beyond 7777 years, the dating methods used in science has flaws.

What flaws are those 6 Exes?
It gotten better thru the years actually. see here: You trust Scientific American, right?

however, scientists can theorize all they want, they did so with Climate Change

It's not theories if it can be duplicated by anyone using basic scientific method.

One has to ask the question, what is the agenda of these scientists theorizing that the remains are 300,000 years old!!??

There is no agenda except to destroy ignorance and willful superstition thru the distribution of knowledge and provable factual data.

 

[Gully Foyle]

Most sane people know that scientific studies like these can only be "theories" just like the "theory" of evolution....it's our best guess at what happened with the limited facts at our disposal. Problem is when people regard these as hard "facts" then science gets worryingly close to religion.

The difference is this: Dogma needs zero proof. Scientific theory only become facts thru physical proofs.

See here: https://ncse.com/library-resource/definitions-fact-theory-law-scientific-work

 

[6xes]

in this video, there is sufficient evidence and reasoning to prove the inaccuracies of the flawed methods used in science to pre-date fossils
it is neither accurate or conclusive as this video points out

[video=youtube_share;TVuVYnHRuig]https://youtu.be/TVuVYnHRuig[/video]

 

[Gully Foyle]

You are right. The satanists hiding god under the guise of science have created the new cult. Darwin, Copernicus, Einstein and Newton being their most revered Adepts.

You have to believe in God to believe in Satan. Satanists are just as silly as believers.

The four people you mention have zero to do with any religion, they are revered scientists because of the knowledge and theories they shared.
All provable.
The Inquisition put those who thought the earth went around the sun to DEATH for years because it went against their malignant dogma.

 

[Gully Foyle]

in this video, there is sufficient evidence and reasoning to prove the inaccuracies of the flawed methods used in science to pre-date fossils
it is neither accurate or conclusive as this video points out

https://youtu.be/TVuVYnHRuig

Total unadulterated tosh. A perfect example of a typical ignorance of a Creationist.
What are this guys qualifications?

Scientific American to the rescue again:
[video=youtube;phZeE7Att_s]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phZeE7Att_s[/video]

How come there are no dinosaurs in the Bible?
Because it was written by ignorant dead white men!

 

[Gully Foyle]

If this is what you count as success i suggest to seek out a psychologist.

He was kidding of course my friend.

Being reminded that Creationism and numerology are still a thing tends to do that.

Don't forget astrology and superstition, still waiting for the rest of humanity to evolve out of those mind traps.

 

[Becks]

This thread went bat crazy in 6 hours and 59 minutes. Is that a new record for a non-political thread in the FDev Off-Topic forums?

 

[Gully Foyle]

here are some questions for the evolutionist's out there
Consider the bird

did it breathe before its lungs evolved?

Birds evolved from dinosaurs. Provable from the fossil record. All life originated in the ocean. Lungs took millions of years to evolve.

how did it know what to evolve, if its brain hadnt evolved yet?
It is not done consciously, it is a process that takes alot of time.

how did it eat before the mouth evolved?
how did it find the food to eat before its eyes evolved?
where did the mouth send its food if the stomach hadnt evolved?


how did the bird have energy if it didnt eat because of the lack of a mouth?

You make ridiculous questions that only show how really ignorant you are. Blinders on so tight there is probably zero point in me wasting my breath on a Cro Magnon.

Evolution is a fairy tale for grown ups. This theory has helped nothing in the progress of science. IT IS USELESS!!
-Professor Louis Bounoure

That is a known fallacy. That is NOT the whole quote Six Exes.
This is what he said:



“”"Evolutionism is a fairy tale for grown-ups. This theory has helped nothing in the progress of science. It is useless."
—Prof. Louis Bounoure, introduced as "Former President of the Biological Society of Strasbourg and Director of the Strasbourg Zoological Museum, later Director of Research at the French National Centre of Scientific Research"
This quote has been used by Ray Comfort (twice[4][5]), by other anti-evolution writers,[6] and generally reprinted.[7]
It has also been previously covered, in great depth, by Talk.Origins.[8] For a start, the first sentence wasn't by Bounoure at all, but by someone else altogether.


List of fallacious creationist quotes

 

[Gully Foyle]

It makes more sense a person creating a robot from the material of the Earth... (creation)
than it does for something to magically come into being (evolution)

only one with a chicken brain would disagree.

Eden just popped into existence?
And women were created from a man's rib?

You know that was written to make women subservient to men right?
Because the pagan religions before Xtians worshiped Mama Gaia.