I am no chemist but i am trying to use an interactive table of elements and the internet to find out what would produce a green gas (it is green that the barnacles spit out right?) when heated or compressed or otherwise extracted.
Alien archeology and other mysteries: Thread 10 - The Canonn
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It's the waste Chlorine from salt farming.
Chlorine was actually my first thought and though chlorine is a yellow/green gas it is not present on the particular planet I am looking into right now (specifically the one with the alien encounter)
I was thinking Phosphorus:
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[spits coffee all over hands and phone]
There is also no message text in the Journal log file either.
Encounters can also happen on the B 4 planet which has no Yttrium...but does have Polonium. However I don't think planet materials and barnacles really have much in common (besides each barnacle planet needing the organic ones since they're not on the 100% metallic worlds.)
Too Long, Don't Read summary:
The aliens have actively assessed our civilization with the UAs, UPs, and now directly. So, are they hostile? If the Barnacles are refuelling stations, does that mean that the aliens are also active in the California Nebula or Witch Head, for instance?
So, Investigate those nebulas.
Prepare for war, just in case.
The aliens have actively assessed our civilization with the UAs, UPs, and now directly. So, are they hostile? If the Barnacles are refuelling stations, does that mean that the aliens are also active in the California Nebula or Witch Head, for instance?
So, Investigate those nebulas.
Prepare for war, just in case.
To: Canonn Research Institute.
From: Lead scientist M. Volgrand.
Subject: Review on alien activity.
Following the timeline of the alien activity near and inside the human Bubble, it is possible to follow a clear trending and intention from an alien intelligence. This review will follow the events and changes in this activity and try to explain them.
The events occured in this order:
-Appearance of first alien artifacts in military convoys.
-Interaction with the UAs.
-Change of UA behavior. Location of "signal destination" in Merope.
-Finding of Alien Structures (also known as Large Barnacles).
-Appearance of Unknown Probes.
-Deciphering UPs leads to a location in COL 70.
-First alien encounter (hyperdictions).
-Alien ships interacting with the Alien Structures.
ASSUMPTION: All these events are not a matter of luck or blind luck, but the intentional steps to reach a certain objective.
1) The bulk search with UAs.
The first appearance of Unknown Artifacts was in military convoys, and back then it was extremely difficult to find any UA. At that stage, the UAs code, broken by the canonn scientists, did scan the closes stelar body and retransmit its name to an unknown receptor.
This was enough reason to consider: who is listening and what do they want? Although that question was looked in disregard, soon the Alien Artifacts changed their signal. They would then scan the closest ship, make a 3d diagram, and send it to an unknown receptor. The triangulation of the signal finally lead the Canonn to the Pleiades nebula.
PLAUSIBLE EXPLANATION:
The Unknown Artifacts seem to have acted as a sort of "scouting drone": They were scanning stellar bodies and sending transmitting their positions and names. So why did they change that behavior? The most likely explanation is "us": Having encountered signs of an alien interaction, the UAs proceeded to scan the humans that were interacting with them.
Think of it in a scientific way: If a certain activity delivers an unexpected result, more investigation is required. If there is someone monitoring the UAs (and I believe there is) they suddenly observed strange jumps of many light years on their artifacts, and new data was requested.
2) The indirect assessment.
The inteligence behind the UAs confirmed at this point that they were dealing with an space-faring civilization (the human race). Around Merope a "Ua shell" was stablished: Slowly over time, more and more Uas appeared in a growing circle around the pleiades nebula, until it reached the frontier systems of the human bubble.
By doing that, it is easy to assume that they will get a very accurate idea of the general area of space where we are located. And extremely cautious maneuver, always avoiding direct contact with the human race, for now.
3) The direct assessment.
Now that the alien inteligence knew where the humans were, it was time for a more direct approach. That's just a very vague hypothesis to explain the alien hyperdictions. The lack of data makes it impossible to actually assume what is the objective of those hyperdictions.
THE MISSING PIECE: Alien Barnacles
Over all this review, one that I made long time ago, a question always came to mind: how do the Alien Barnacles fit into this scheme of events? It was clear to me that the alien barnacles, alien ships, artifacts and probes were all from a common origin. The chances of finding a single alien race are of one against several billions, to find two would literally be a miracle. And to find two races that use this sort of bio technology simply defies any logic.
After the latests events this piece fell into place: The alien barnacles may be a sort of "refuelling" station.
SUMMARY AND QUESTIONS RAISED:
If the events linking the UAs, UPs, Barnacles and alien activity are due to a deliverate attempt to assess our civilization, new questions are raised.
1) Do the Alien Structures (barnacles) indicate a long-term campaign?
If the aliens do need the barnacles to refuel (which is still just a hypothesis), their presence may indicate the intention of a prolonged activity in the area.
If that's so, a new question raises:
2) Do the presence of Alien Structures indicate likely alien activity areas?
It is well known that the alien barnacles have been found in other nebulas, such as the California nebula or the Witch Head sector.
Why are they there? Are the alien ships acting in those zones as well? If so, why would them, if the human civilization is not active in those sectors, appart of a few explorers?
3) What is the final objective of the aliens? Are they hostile?
That is, probably, the most important question. One in which the safest bet is to assume: "they are probably hostile, but let's now initiate hostilities yet".
SUGGESTED INVESTIGATIONS AND ACTIONS:
Following this review, I request for initiating the following actions:
1) Do a full investigation of other nebulas where alien barnacles have been found.
The objective will be to answer two questions: Are the Aliens interacting with those barnacles as well? And, if they are, is there any reason in the sector that may explain the reason for their presence?
2) Collaborate with the independent engineers.
I do believe that the best action we can do now is to successfully scan the high wake signals the alien ships leave on their depart. This may lead to more answers.
3) Prepare for war.
We need to assume the worst possible outcome. My suggestion is to start recruiting more pilots into the Canonn Defence Force to ensure we are ready to face any incoming threat. At the same time, preparations should be made in order to assist the evacuation of civilians and equipment if it is needed.
I will be heading soon to the California Nebula to try to answer some of these questions. After that I will be joining again the Canonn Defence Forces.
I will inform of any findings, if any.
Commander M. Volgrand.
Canonn Institute's lead scientist.
I would refrain from provoking the creatures with a heavily armed fleet. Secondly, they might've laid claim to the area before we were ever spacefairing.
Well, I finally made it out to OI-C (in a shiny new Cutter, yay!!! 
) and have set down a few hundred yards from the barnacles. Can the event trigger while I'm still in the ship, or do I have to enter the SRV every time I re-instance?
Also, can the event be triggered if I do all the re-instancing while still in the SRV, or is SRV deployment the trigger?
) and have set down a few hundred yards from the barnacles. Can the event trigger while I'm still in the ship, or do I have to enter the SRV every time I re-instance?Also, can the event be triggered if I do all the re-instancing while still in the SRV, or is SRV deployment the trigger?
I don't think there is any way to "trigger" the event. I saw it 5 times over three days, then nothing for 3 days.
They don't arrive at set times, or always after someone flies in or reinstates or drives about. Instance can run 12 hours with no event. Freshly brewed Tea and biscuits have also failed to tempt our neighbours over for a visit...
I think it's random luck at this point...
BTW if you relog into your SRV you may find you are seeing chat messages twice. Dock with your ship to fix this.
They don't arrive at set times, or always after someone flies in or reinstates or drives about. Instance can run 12 hours with no event. Freshly brewed Tea and biscuits have also failed to tempt our neighbours over for a visit...
I think it's random luck at this point...
BTW if you relog into your SRV you may find you are seeing chat messages twice. Dock with your ship to fix this.
Food for thought here.
If Barnicles are plants (stay with me now), and they have cycles of 'ripeness', are the MA's the 'fruit', the 'seed', or both? Remember the Conda'?
I suspect it carried MA's during the crash. Why it crashed though, is beyond me. I'd say the MA's are the 'seed'.
So, if MA's are seeds; then Barni's are plants. Freaky bio-engineered plants. Nutrients and sunlight. Which nutrients though?
Plants need to reproduce. Are we the 'bees'? Are the Ukn. Ships? Likely both. The nectar is food or fuel. Possibly both.
Are the ships alive? Yes. You can see the edges of the 'petals' 'wilting'. Must be living.
Are they piloted? Unknown.
if not then the ships are the aliens.
If piloted is the link Mutual? Likely. Maybe not.
Either way the ships are creatures.
Bio-engineered creatures built for war and peace. Guardians? Thargoids? Why not both.
Guardian Exiles? Possibly. Repurposing the Thargoids for their own ends. Slavery or Elevation? Your guess.
If Exiles, INRA's caution is warranted. Thargoids were bad. AI controlled Guardians with bio-engineered Thargoid warriors? Possibly much worse.
'And they thought the Thargoids were trouble.' -Rebecca W.
Braben did say that the Barnicles were from a previous state of lifeform and bio-engineered.
Are the ships Thargoids or Thargoid creatures?
Side note, if the ships are creatures can they be built or grown? What about tamed?
I suspect it carried MA's during the crash. Why it crashed though, is beyond me. I'd say the MA's are the 'seed'.
So, if MA's are seeds; then Barni's are plants. Freaky bio-engineered plants. Nutrients and sunlight. Which nutrients though?
Plants need to reproduce. Are we the 'bees'? Are the Ukn. Ships? Likely both. The nectar is food or fuel. Possibly both.
Are the ships alive? Yes. You can see the edges of the 'petals' 'wilting'. Must be living.
Are they piloted? Unknown.
if not then the ships are the aliens.
If piloted is the link Mutual? Likely. Maybe not.
Either way the ships are creatures.
Bio-engineered creatures built for war and peace. Guardians? Thargoids? Why not both.
Guardian Exiles? Possibly. Repurposing the Thargoids for their own ends. Slavery or Elevation? Your guess.
If Exiles, INRA's caution is warranted. Thargoids were bad. AI controlled Guardians with bio-engineered Thargoid warriors? Possibly much worse.
'And they thought the Thargoids were trouble.' -Rebecca W.
Braben did say that the Barnicles were from a previous state of lifeform and bio-engineered.
Are the ships Thargoids or Thargoid creatures?
Side note, if the ships are creatures can they be built or grown? What about tamed?
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That's not necessarily random chance. The double ship instance from that video a couple of days ago suggests an instance that spawned twice within a few seconds of eachother.
Now I'd assume (always a dangerous thing to do) that this event won't spawn if no-one is around. Therefore the most likely circumstance is a random roll occurring to decide whether you get the event, which could well be tied to launching your SRV.
Obsidian Ant encountered his after 20 minutes. There could be a random time component after the initial roll to decide whether you get the encounter, and if so, it's unlikely to be more than 30 minutes.
You saw it 5 times in 3 days, so you have the most data. Were you in open with other commanders? If not, your data will be that much better because it's not spoiled by other people rolling for the encounter.
I'd appreciate it if you could put down as much info as possible on your encounters
The sheet of encounters on the front page shows the time the encounter happened but not how long the person having the encounter had been there.
XD I didn't get what you meant at first hahahaha.
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Canonn associate
If I remember well, at those ancient times, there was no Canonn at all: just freelance scientists joined by the love for discoveries... that, after all, is what Canonn is now, ins't it
I've never been an "official" Canonn member myself, but I am 100% "unofficially"
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I remember no one was believing you! Until Qorbeq's friend confirmation about Seega Port in the morse chittering... funny times!
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If I remember well, at those ancient times, there was no Canonn at all: just freelance scientists joined by the love for discoveries... that, after all, is what Canonn is now, ins't it
I've never been an "official" Canonn member myself, but I am 100% "unofficially"
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I remember no one was believing you! Until Qorbeq's friend confirmation about Seega Port in the morse chittering... funny times!
Yeah Always thought of myself a Canonn member due to forum interaction etc, Its only recently I joined officially as I can get on discord etc plus they now have the Gnosis, I Also got Allied.
Anything really interesting tends to happen here in the Forums though I've found. I like Canonn as its a scientific type community and its low on politics. Its the most fun part of the game for me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=383qR183guQ
Ill go where the Green ones take me
Where their Rhythm makes me
Thats where my destiny
Is gonna be
And Ill be in Alien Harmony
We'll make sweet Melody
Ever so friendly
If they don't kill me
Everybodys Searching
For a Dream
Factions making plans
Ive not got
What Ive been searching for
Im getting sweaty hands
I want them to know
That I won't let them go
Now Ill go where the Green ones take me
Where their Rhythm makes me
Thats where my destiny
Is gonna be
And Ill be in Alien Harmony
We'll make sweet Melody
Ever so friendly
If they don't kill me
Like a Bee needs a Hive
Barnacles keep them Alive
Like a leaf
Clings to a tree
I live in hope
That they like me
I know what they are worth
Hoping that they don't attack Earth
Ill go where the Green ones take me
Where their Rhythm makes me
Thats where my destiny
Is gonna be
And Ill be in Alien Harmony
We'll make sweet Melody
Ever so friendly
If they don't kill me
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I wonder if anything will happen with Wreaken, the GCF and the Anti Wreaken Hub have got them in a retreat state from Jurati, hopefully they will retreat and there will be a statement.
Could be just a dummy front though so they are not totally in control or they have since been take over by a shadowy organisation.
Could be just a dummy front though so they are not totally in control or they have since been take over by a shadowy organisation.
Going to have to dispute some points I'm afraid.
'Aliens' - that's an assumption and not proven. Other viable possibilities exist and shouldn't be discounted. Which brings me on to...
The UA interpretation/explanation. - The UAs use morse, and they use our (mainstream humanity) names for systems & planets. So either FD didn't think it through or the UAs must have already had a substantial history with humanity. Encountering us can't have been a particular surprise and if they know all our names for systems and planets then it seems highly unlikely that they wouldn't also have had information on which ones we came from.
Also, IMHO the 'tail' of the UA does not particularly appear non-human.
"It was clear to me that the alien barnacles, alien ships, artifacts and probes were all from a common origin. The chances of finding a single alien race are of one against several billions, to find two would literally be a miracle. And to find two races that use this sort of bio technology simply defies any logic."
I'm sorry but the above is just your opinion, not fact, and I can think of plenty of viable logical explanations for finding multiple races using similar technology. There's also no basis for the odds you're stating and they're directly contradicted by known facts. Humanity has already 100% encountered and exterminated one other alien race. That race is described as "one of the few known sentient species" so clearly there a multiple. Then there's the Thargoids. Also, there's Guardians, the Guardians foes/adversaries, the Mars Relic, and Soontill to be thrown into the mix.
On the question of why the Barnacles are in nebulae here's a hypothesis: it's because of near-to-surface positioning of desirable materials. Planets that are older than the nebula they're in would essentially be covered with a dusting of the materials that the nebula is composed of. This makes organic extraction of the materials viable as they're essentially present in the soil rather than needing mines to extract.
I agree with all your suggested investigations and actions though!
Further, on action 3, I think some additional worst case scenario preparation needs to be done. Once the Gnosis is capable of travel it may be wise to move it a long, long way from both the bubble and Colonia. If the worst happens and we have to flee the bubble then having a mobile base to use will be invaluable. Losing it in a war can't be risked.
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