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Ive started to dabble with PVP. Engineering my ship and trying my luck.
Im not inclined to be a negative player so any PVP i do is in retaliation to an attack on me... (just hang out in MAIA)
My only issue is that the PVP i have experianced so far has left a bad taste in my mouth. Im almost always outmatched in ship size and numbers. Its hilarious.
Ive never encountered a Solo Cobra picking fights with ships of the same size and class. Its always Tricked out FDL's, Corvettes and Cutters and im flying a Viper Mk4. The PVP isnt Player Vs Player, Its overpowered Player Vs Underpowered Player. You're dead... i win.... Hazzar!
So at the moment i can understand why PVP isnt popular to the majority, Unless you are part of a PVP group with some class.
Im not inclined to be a negative player so any PVP i do is in retaliation to an attack on me... (just hang out in MAIA)
My only issue is that the PVP i have experianced so far has left a bad taste in my mouth. Im almost always outmatched in ship size and numbers. Its hilarious.
Ive never encountered a Solo Cobra picking fights with ships of the same size and class. Its always Tricked out FDL's, Corvettes and Cutters and im flying a Viper Mk4. The PVP isnt Player Vs Player, Its overpowered Player Vs Underpowered Player. You're dead... i win.... Hazzar!
So at the moment i can understand why PVP isnt popular to the majority, Unless you are part of a PVP group with some class.
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I'll tell you why I'm not a fan of this kind of PvP.
Picture this:
An experienced player and a new player both sit in front of a TV to play Tekken 7 against each other. They both pick Kazuya. In this scenario, the only difference between the two is that one knows how to play and the other doesn't. Just because the experienced player has many more hours under his belt, doesn't mean he's got a Kazuya that can break though his opponents guard, EWGF him for double damage and then infinite-sweep kick.
Now let's put the same players in the same scenario for Elite. The new player is in his brand-spanking new Sidewinder, the other (the experienced player), in a fully A-rated combat fitted FDL. My money's on the FDL pilot with many more hours under his belt.
In Elite, the more you play, the bigger and more powerful your ship. There is very rarely an even playing field. That's why I don't like Elites PvP.
Picture this:
An experienced player and a new player both sit in front of a TV to play Tekken 7 against each other. They both pick Kazuya. In this scenario, the only difference between the two is that one knows how to play and the other doesn't. Just because the experienced player has many more hours under his belt, doesn't mean he's got a Kazuya that can break though his opponents guard, EWGF him for double damage and then infinite-sweep kick.
Now let's put the same players in the same scenario for Elite. The new player is in his brand-spanking new Sidewinder, the other (the experienced player), in a fully A-rated combat fitted FDL. My money's on the FDL pilot with many more hours under his belt.
In Elite, the more you play, the bigger and more powerful your ship. There is very rarely an even playing field. That's why I don't like Elites PvP.
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There are a good portion of people who fall into any one of the four, on any given day. I'm one of those people - I tend to bounce around based on my mood, who is available to play, etc.
P.S. You guys really ought to give some PvP a go - it's a lot of fun.
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You did a good job in that fight at the Beta ruins.
Unless you're just looking to have fun... then it's totally worth those things.
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The two most recent CMDR 's I added as friends in game were a new starter in a sidey still configuring controls and struggling with elite's yaw, and a fella in a new Asp who has barely enough for a couple of rebuys and has yet to try a ship with weapons (he quit open yesterday after he got ganked at one of the CG's).
Not everyone has our experience, or in game funds.
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this is a spot on analysis imo, and perfectly sums up the core differences between building a competitive PvP game and a game which tends to be either single player OR co-op PvE game.
one game has some sort of progression in it, the other doesnt, and any unlocks etc are just sidegrades or skins to add longevity.
both are perfectly fine and reasonable, it just depends on the game you are making. ED is the 4th installment of an Elite game.... all the past ones have been about progression of one thing or another.
even the 1984 game.... take a starting ship and put it against a ship with front and rear military lasers and see which does the best. (if it were possible, it is not of course as elite was single player)
I have. And while I've had a couple of entertaining cat-and-mouse encounters (evading only, no shots fired) I find actual combat just isn't my thing. I don't have the skillset or mindset, and I'm not really interested in developing them. And yet I still play in Open because 99% of the time it's absolutely fine.
Many of us have and still disagree with you. We don't dislike it out of ignorance, we dislike it coz we dislike it.
Age can only ever be a partial reason. But it can't be excluded from the discussion. Elite has an older player base than most games.
PVP is not popular on these forums. Ergo age is a factor. A factor. One of many. Remember I only responsed this eloquent statement.
Also I'm an original 84 Elite player, I only play in Open and love PVP. This game is dream come true - I get to roleplay in a truly dangerous Galaxy. It wouldn't be dangerous without other real people.
Yeah, brr. It's not for me either. I'm not good enough - I'm rather a natural born kill
I would but the massive Grind Wall means I don't have a PvP capable ship - I invested all my time and money in Exploring - Also I don't have the time to RNGineer the PvP Weapons and Modules it took me nearly three months to gather 260 rolls on my FSDs ! (Thats right I used Level 5 Mats for level 5 Rolls) CQC / Arena works but no-one plays it due to it being a fair fight and the rewards are pitiful.
I'm sure it is.
For you.
For me it is hell. I'd rather pull out my toenails with vice grips.
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Totally agree.
If you find a solid fight with another good player who isnt an at just looking for blood. It's a very enjoyable expleriance.
Coupled with Engineering and pushing your ship's abilities in a fight its very rewarding.
PVP for fun, done with class. Its a good thing.
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Haha awsome. Was a good fight. Except for the lag.
I have you on my friends list in the beta. I will check if it copied over to the main game. If not i will add, if you like.
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