Alien archeology and other mysteries: Thread 10 - The Canonn

[Starke Hathaway]

Sure, we discuss, politely!
And your blink code objection make absolutely sense. However, you know, it's a game, and how could FD create some alien language, that being alien by definition, could have been understood from us players? I agree that binary could have been a better choice then morse, but as you know, they used it later. They hired more people, could have time to develop better riddles, for us.
Perhaps the MORSE was just some kind of "temporary workaround/mistake": how could FD know from the beginning how smart we were?

PS
I made a couple edits to my previous post, perhaps you could read them....

Sure, but MB said the use of Morse was deliberate. I tried including a link to this post of his but it caused the mod queue to eat my post.

 

[Javert]

It seems to me too. It also has some kind of texture on it, like a fungal infection, and it makes a sound too from close proximity. Organic weapon is my bet. And remembering the corrosive effects of the UA...

I'm not concerned. These weapons clearly suck compared to the ones used by humans.

After all - when we attack ships normally, they explode into a smithereens. All the Thargoids managed to do is knock a few holes in there and dump the contents of their bilge tanks all over those ships.

Seems to me they are overrated.

 

[Anjin]

Just read Drew’s updated lore page on the Thargoids and the bit about them perhaps not liking the Federation very much, and targeting them. Also, with regards to the using morse-code, it’s Federation Blink Code lore-wise, isn’t it?

For all my jumping through the Thargoid Bubble (calling it), I’ve yet to be hyperdicted. Could it be that I’m not strongly affiliated with the Federation (or any major power for that matter)?

I’ve read here on the forums others mentioning they’ve never been hyperdicted either. If it’s not entirely random and just bad (good?) luck, I’m wondering if it’s because they’re not aligned to Federation either.

Could the hyperdictions be targeting independent ships due to their Federation affiliation?

 

[CMDR DancingLemur]

Ed said something about new kind of armour and weapons, that will be available to us later. I think that, from scientific point of view, we can assume, that the flowerships are of the same organo-metallic origin, like the barnacles. More or completely resistant to conventional (our) weapons. Their shields are based on some different kind of energy, that we can probably see during the "feeding" from the barnacle and also phase-shifted (Star Trek stuff). As a result they are untouchable right now. Barnacles are organo-metallic refineries, extracting metallic compounds from the planetary bodies, producing new kinds of materials and storing unknown energy.

So what is Palin doing right now, is reverse engineering the alien technology.

 

[evaldo10]

Ed said something about new kind of armour and weapons, that will be available to us later. I think that, from scientific point of view, we can assume, that the flowerships are of the same organo-metallic origin, like the barnacles. More or completely resistant to conventional (our) weapons. Their shields are based on some different kind of energy, that we can probably see during the "feeding" from the barnacle and also phase-shifted (Star Trek stuff). As a result they are untouchable right now. Barnacles are organo-metallic refineries, extracting metallic compounds from the planetary bodies, producing new kinds of materials and storing unknown energy.

So what is Palin doing right now, is reverse engineering the alien technology.

Well he should be reverse engineering the tech after looking at the data right now Yes, Unfortunately the Damn Feds stole all the data. We need to get data to Palin or somebody soon, Im sure all this will be part of the update.

 

[Grievstar]

⇩ What is that marking on the wing, is it on all Adders?

That's just the Zorgon Peterson logo

 

[knowles2]

⇩ Adder?

⇩ What is that marking on the wing, is it on all Adders?

⇩ Is this ship disabled, it has a hardpoint out.

http://i.imgur.com/WMsmmK6.png

Worth keep an eye out at stations an other space for ships with that logo. May be they are part of the group that were behind the dynasty project.

 

[Volimar]

The Guardians: they are another specie, they are not extinct, they are somewhere, perhaps Halsey met them, and they could come in the future to bring back the equilibrium, depending on what we do. They are "The Guardians", after all

Perhaps the Guardians are extinct but the AI's they created survived and created their own civilization. Maybe they don't like organic life that much.

 

[rizal72]

Sure, but MB said the use of Morse was deliberate. I tried including a link to this post of his but it caused the mod queue to eat my post.

Yes, I remember it very well indeed. You'll find MB posts, included that one, on the Front Page, bottom of post #3, before THE THARGOIDS

Deliberate perhaps because they come in peace, at first, and they were trying to communicate it somehow, using our "language", somehow... they are aliens after all, so somehow...
However the Thargs were well aware of Fed's blink code, as other have said.

 

[bitstorm]

I got the same result as you. Scan data notice when finding the data point, but not able to scan it manually.

Aye scanning the private data beacon provides :

"Unknown Ship Signature"

So presumably this is a scan of the ship that did this.

You get 3 lots, which is what you'd get for a single ship scan. Which implies one ship only, or perhaps only time to scan one ship.

I guess you can conclude from this that the Feds were able to get a scan off, so not disabled throughout the encounter.

At the site all damaged ships are roughly pointing in one direction.

Transmitter is pointing to around HIP 101181 which is just to the left of the bubble, might as well do an eco-trip. Though I'm guessing it means nothing.

 

[evaldo10]

On the subject of their corrosive weapons !!!

We have the Meta Alloys which provide anti corrosion racks.

It would seem that Meta Alloys will protect us against this form of corrosive attack.

We have already used Meta Alloys to repair stations in lock down, we at Sap Core have even UA bombed our own stations and repaired them using Meta Alloys.

It may be that these stations that have been repaired with Meta Alloys will be safer than others going forward.

What we need next is Meta Alloy strengthened hull and something to block their scan and shutdown of our systems.

Ideally if we can communicate then that solves many problems.

 

[evaldo10]

Aye scanning the private data beacon provides :

"Unknown Ship Signature"

So presumably this is a scan of the ship that did this.

You get 3 lots, which is what you'd get for a single ship scan. Which implies one ship only, or perhaps only time to scan one ship.

I guess you can conclude from this that the Feds were able to get a scan off, so not disabled throughout the encounter.

We have been farming them, just fly out and in again

 

[Starke Hathaway]

Deliberate perhaps because they come in peace, at first, and they were trying to communicate it somehow, using our "language", somehow... they are aliens after all, so somehow...
However the Thargs were well aware of Fed's blink code, as other have said.

So, in order to communicate their peaceful intentions to us they transmit our own names for stars and line drawing of our own ships to Merope? Seems a bit convoluted when Morse for "peace" would have sufficed.

 

[evaldo10]

Wreaken constructions now down to 2 systems, they have retreated from Jurati.

 

[evaldo10]

So, in order to communicate their peaceful intentions to us they transmit our own names for stars and line drawing of our own ships to Merope? Seems a bit convoluted when Morse for "peace" would have sufficed.

Im not sure they want Peace with all of us though

 

[Starke Hathaway]

Im not sure they want Peace with all of us though

The idea that the UAs are communicating peaceful intentions is rizal's hypothesis, not mine.

 

[LordZoltan]

On the subject of their corrosive weapons !!!

We have the Meta Alloys which provide anti corrosion racks.

It would seem that Meta Alloys will protect us against this form of corrosive attack.

We have already used Meta Alloys to repair stations in lock down, we at Sap Core have even UA bombed our own stations and repaired them using Meta Alloys.

It may be that these stations that have been repaired with Meta Alloys will be safer than others going forward.

What we need next is Meta Alloy strengthened hull and something to block their scan and shutdown of our systems.

Ideally if we can communicate then that solves many problems.

That would mean Bond Hub in Varati is safe, at least. The Canonn Institute in COL 285 IX-T D3-43, though...


But I'm not sure... If MAs are alien, but UAs are indeed human (and designed to affect these flower ships), then it might be the case that we need to find a way to enhance UA corrosion to defeat MA resistance; and that we might encounter some hostiles which are vulnerable to whatever new 'raw' UA-based weapons Palin or whoever might come up with; but then some will also be MA-infused, like our stations and 'racks, and will require some exotic upgrade. Perhaps the Guardians might be able to unlock that.

Prepping for imminent CG funs, (and likely rebuys!) either way...

 

[evaldo10]

That would mean Bond Hub in Varati is safe, at least. The Canonn Institute in COL 285 IX-T D3-43, though...


But I'm not sure... If MAs are alien, but UAs are indeed human (and designed to affect these flower ships), then it might be the case that we need to find a way to enhance UA corrosion to defeat MA resistance; and that we might encounter some hostiles which are vulnerable to whatever new 'raw' UA-based weapons Palin or whoever might come up with; but then some will also be MA-infused, like our stations and 'racks, and will require some exotic upgrade. Perhaps the Guardians might be able to unlock that.

Prepping for imminent CG funs, (and likely rebuys!) either way...

Yeah no doubt some CG's, I do hope there is some community discoveries that need to be made first though, as in Fdev put it in and then its up to us to find it. Then it activates the CG.

I'm hoping searching Col 70 will be a part of that. The Anti Wreaken Hub are slowly reducing Wreaken to tatters. They pushed them from Jurati today, they must have some good people working for them !!

 

[Unbreakable]

However, you know, it's a game, and how could FD create some alien language, that being alien by definition, could have been understood from us players?

Using that logic, how do you explain the Guardian Glyph and Sign Language? If it is how you say, Guardian Sign language should be the same as Human.

Ed said something about new kind of armour and weapons, that will be available to us later. I think that, from scientific point of view, we can assume, that the flowerships are of the same organo-metallic origin, like the barnacles. More or completely resistant to conventional (our) weapons.

I have yet to see an Organic who can withstand human cannons, miniguns, and explosives. If anything, our weapons should shred them. Even with body armor, it will fail after enough bullets hit it. Perhaps we should do what most people do for insects and poison them, or light them on fire, or make big magnifying glasses for our ships!

 

[Thatchinho]

Sure, we discuss, politely!
And your blink code objection make absolutely sense. However, you know, it's a game, and how could FD create some alien language, that being alien by definition, could have been understood from us players? I agree that binary could have been a better choice then morse, but as you know, they used it later. They hired more people, could have time to develop better riddles, for us.
Perhaps the MORSE was just some kind of "temporary workaround/mistake": how could FD know from the beginning how smart we were?

Well MB did say "The use of morse is deliberate"...

Also, beyond the use of morse, there's the use of our system names.

Edit - ninja'd and also now seen that you've already responded to the ninja!