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damn...
maybe we should speed up to superhyperspeed and throw our ships against the system until the permit lock is gone
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Alien archeology and other mysteries: Thread 10 - The Canonn
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Mission failed
damn...
maybe we should speed up to superhyperspeed and throw our ships against the system until the permit lock is gone
Not really sure that this post really says anything that hasn't already been said before (one of my favourite pastimes) but I got on a roll
Thargoforming?
On the speculation about what the cave from that trailer is, and following on from these comments in the online rags; I'm thinking: Thargoid 'mothership' and that we could perhaps be looking at biological 'repurposing' or conversion of planetary material into a living thing, which then becomes a nursery, and so on. I won't say terraforming because that would only be done by humans, perhaps 'thargoforming' is more accurate - although there's clearly no atmosphere, so whatever changes are being made can be done in hard vacuum.
Anyway, just as with terraforming, logically, not all planets would be suitable (at least I hope not!), and it might be that some elements are essential to enable this process to occur. Now I don't *believe* there is a single exotic element that's common to all barnacle planets, say (but there certainly are 'common' elements in, er, common).
But perhaps not *just* the planets' elements themselves - what about the nearby planetary environment? E.g. Gas giants, or ammonia worlds (our favourites after all, right?)
And, furthermore, the stellar environment? Barnacles - for example - are found in and around nebulae - so perhaps that's key, also? As far as I understand it (paraphrasing from the following links), reflection nebulae like the Pleiades are visible purely because the interstellar dust in them (thought to be 'suspended' in a molecular hydrogen gas cloud in the case of the Pleiades) reflects the light of the nearby stars, e.g. Merope - as opposed to being ionised in the case of an emission nebula. Cosmic dust sounds boring, but it turns out it can actually be quite rich in composition, depending upon what type it is.
According to that reflection nebula link:
And it turns out (read the interstellar dust link above if you're feeling adventurous) that interplanetary cosmic dust has more exotic elements and compounds related to its nearby bodies - e.g. planets, comets, the local star etc.
Yeah!? And?
So we have a precedent for Barnacles extracting material from a planet to create something useful for the Thargoid ships (as well as meta alloys - which appear to be nothing but a byproduct from whatever the Barnacle is doing). It must be something about the confluence of planetary makeup, in conjunction with the nebulae, make that possible - surely?
If so, then it's reasonable to suggest that the same will be true for this mothership - but perhaps on a different scale - and that there's some local conditions which make a location ripe for whatever the hell it is that video is showing us. Again - the planet that's 'thargoformed', but also perhaps nearby *planetary* dust (and possibly that from a nearby nebula too).
So I'm thinking it just reinforces the idea that others have already mentioned, that if this cave can be found, there's a high likelihood of it being in the nebulae where we've found the barnacles already - but also on the moons of planets a particular type, too.
Perhaps the UP has the answer to that one?
Actually, as I read all that back, I'm not entirely sure I'm really making much of a point!
- And it could just be that this mothership, if that what it is, instead of 'growing' on the planet, flies to that planet and, kinda, burrows into it. But I can't work with that, so I'm going with my first idea!
Time to get flying, and put the keyboard away!
There could be some sort of human influence involved in this Thargoforming mechanism as well.
Dark forces are out there remember and they have already been planning an escape. They have just been waiting for the trigger.
You can unleash a Thargoid queen but you must also supply the stuff it needs to grow and multiply.
It may just be chance that the Thargoids have appeared and that they are slowly encroaching on human space by accident but so many things have occurred that suggests there is a human element at work here.
There is a lot of Iron and Nickle in my back Garden to be fair
And it could just be that this mothership, if that what it is, instead of 'growing' on the planet, flies to that planet and, kinda, burrows into it. But I can't work with that, so I'm going with my first idea!
You see them claw like things that surround the Thargoid ships when in flight, they look more claw like when its crashed on a planet, jus saying
You see them claw like things that surround the Thargoid ships when in flight, they look more claw like when its crashed on a planet, jus saying
Can I bring my SRV over?? 
Observations. I just think that looking in the same haystack is too linear at this point. We know more content lies in locked systems. The bubble of activity, so to speak, is enlarging. I think that it is just as likely that FD is going to being exposing content in the next few outer layers of the 'Thargoid Onion'. I wager that the Pleiades are tapped out. Evidence and mysteries are now expanding into neighboring regions. And although base criteria remains in play, I think your comments including those Iron and Nickle could be just such a clue to look on the fringes.
Or not. Theory is what it is until proven otherwise.
Observations. I just think that looking in the same haystack is too linear at this point. We know more content lies in locked systems. The bubble of activity, so to speak, is enlarging. I think that it is just as likely that FD is going to being exposing content in the next few outer layers of the 'Thargoid Onion'. I wager that the Pleiades are tapped out. Evidence and mysteries are now expanding into neighboring regions. And although base criteria remains in play, I think your comments including those Iron and Nickle could be just such a clue to look on the fringes. Or not. Theory is what it is until proven otherwise.
True, true - and my money's actually on the Alliance for that one - they're keeping suspiciously quiet... Those other dark forces we're talking about won't have been encouraging/allowing this - if they are who we think they are
im sorry for my language mods but it ES me off that FD locked HIP 22460 even though we found out where it was
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Oh dear going full conspiracy theory right now, too - following on from the renewed interest I stoked the other day in Unknown Artefacts and Probes being human-made, as tools to try to discover the Thargoids and contain them before anybody else (i.e. we) did...
Those capships weren't attacked by Thargoids - but by the same shady organisation that's made the UAs and the UPs - to make it look like these flower ships we've been seeing (which until now have been completely harmless) are our enemy - when they're not (yet).
The damage to those ships? It might well be Thargoid in origin - but as a result of alien tech from the same source as that which would appear to have been incorporated into UAs and UPs. Explanation? Because those responsible are also the ones responsible for covering up our previous encounters with the Thargs, and are the only ones with access to science and tech gleaned from that period - and they are absolutely against any alien coexistence and will do anything to stoke human hatred of the aliens to cause all out war.
Granted - that basically recycles an old storyline, but it's like AC/DC: they might only have one song, but it's a pretty good one.
Those capships weren't attacked by Thargoids - but by the same shady organisation that's made the UAs and the UPs - to make it look like these flower ships we've been seeing (which until now have been completely harmless) are our enemy - when they're not (yet).
The damage to those ships? It might well be Thargoid in origin - but as a result of alien tech from the same source as that which would appear to have been incorporated into UAs and UPs. Explanation? Because those responsible are also the ones responsible for covering up our previous encounters with the Thargs, and are the only ones with access to science and tech gleaned from that period - and they are absolutely against any alien coexistence and will do anything to stoke human hatred of the aliens to cause all out war.
Granted - that basically recycles an old storyline, but it's like AC/DC: they might only have one song, but it's a pretty good one.
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All you need to do is send the bees to the honey
Exactly! A great AC/DC reference, #1. But a good old story revived. The Fed ships were the "good" Feds. What if the shadow group actually attacked the convoy with Palin's data? Using alien tech... they've already likely manipulated UA and UP devices, why not alien ships or weapons? And are they making it look like the work of the Thargoids? Perhaps, perhaps not, but a worthy conspiracy theory. Again, all theories are more or less plausible in at least part until proven otherwise.
Well it seemed fairly convincing that the "nest/hive structure" from the last trailer was on permit-locked HIP22460, so maybe we should use that as a headmark and look for similar nest habitats.
edit: ah, ninjad again I see!
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I visited the convoy wrecks this afternoon and took some nice closeups of the damage. They're on my PC so cant paste links here at the moment, but there are plenty of other pix over the last couple of days on this thread. What struck me is the patterns of the damage. There is a definite look of something spiralling/trailing along the hulls to cause the yellow damage trails, so I suspect the damage has been caused by the "tentacles" that are apparent at the front of the
Yeah, sorry, that was genius - was AFK. And I'm out of rep
Edit: no I'm not! Eat rep!
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I've crossed and clean two different frames to have a better look of the structure on the large top shot, here : http://imgur.com/0Sc6dih
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Perhaps the barnacles are the nest sites, or rather they grow into nest sites? So are the fireflies coming out of barneys actually baby thargs? (Or could be Tharg snacks?) And are the UAs a machanism to transport these fireflies/baby thargs around to start new nests? Possibly deployed by the Tharg flowerships?
He also say that therewill be an event to discover them.
Ex-President Halsey, before she was sent for "recuperation" in a secure psychiatric facility on Mars, said:
"It was wonderful. Amazing. I saw the universe, and our galaxy within it, as I'd never seen it before, and I felt the presence of the real caretakers of our galaxy. The paradox of their existence – tiny yet gargantuan, fleeting yet eternal. They spoke to me as I drifted in the void. It was amazing. I must share their message."
https://community.elitedangerous.com/en/galnet/uid/57023a099657baf74c71f6e8
That sounds like it could be referring to the firelfies...
And remember, we were told long ago that players would decide if thargoids were friend or foe. To me that means they may not be the aggressor.
so +1 for the thargoids being set up as an enemy by those who would profit from war.
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I agree! It looks as though the spiral weapons may be a directed energy beam, or even biological material with corrosive and electrical-disruptive properties. These sort of thing could have been, dare I say it, vivisected from captured Thargoids? Could certainly mislead us by framing them. Unless they did do it.
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