Alien archeology and other mysteries: Thread 10 - The Canonn

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I'm with you with this, it's a logical conclusion, crossing the data we have.
May I suggest a look at Merope 5C after next patch's launch? ;)
Beta will end on monday, so the launch could be the next day(s).

I'd really like something to be found on Merope5C. It's been a linchpin of the storyline for so long and really frustrating not to find anything there
 
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Thought:

The Thargoids might have developed their own ‘Mycoid virus’ that works on our infrastructure.

The UAs and UPs corrode our ship systems to the point of failure. Just like the Mycoid virus was supposed to corrode their ship hyper-drives in lore. Their UAs were a curiosity and lured us in, they scanned our ships and sent back ‘technical diagrams’ for analysis, and tested the corrosiveness of their development once we scooped them up.

So far only really big ships have shown any damage from Thargoid encounters. And the damage seems to be corrosive (the green “fog” around the ships is the hull burning away). This could be a more aggressive version being tested.

That isn’t to say they have it out for us. Considering humanity developed such a weapon first, this could be their way of creating ‘mutually assured destruction’ before fully exposing themselves.

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But whether the damage is some unintended incompatibility of materials or from some sort of weapon, we might need Palin to start producing meta-alloy hulls so we can survive really close encounters, friendly or not.
 
Just a note on this... I know a lot of people are saying "We know where it is, but it's permit locked etc etc", and I'm not for a moment saying this is unlikely or not the case.

But we don't actually "Know" this until someone's physically gone there and seen it. And in all likelihood this is possibly not the only place one of these exists, unless the Thargoids have developed vast capabilities with a very tiny footprint that's previously been undetected. If the Thargoids really are a potentially superior threat to us and possibly even wiped out the guardians, they can't have got there without a presence at least as large as our bubble or that of the guardians.

In other words, there's a possibility HIP 22460 is permit locked not because a surface Thargoid environment is present on it, but because it ties into a greater Thargoid presence developing closer to our bubble.

Take all this with the grain of salt it deserves from someone like myself who has no interest in doing needle/haystack searches with minimal information or ingame tools other than the MK1 eyeball.

EDIT: And failing any of that, they're simply not in the game at all yet.

Mk1 eyeball scanner sucks +REP to you CMDR 07
 
What is this witchcraft??? Crashed Vessel under the ground about 3-5km under? Its in the main UA's region aswell as in the nebula.

Might be a bug however the planet feels weird and sounds even worse.

Please have a look for yourselves i was out hunting UA's

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WguinvES444&feature=youtu.be

Double check the grid location as well. I found one of the beacons (I think on that planet) was at a completely wrong location.

On the wiki it says it's at 30.32, -98.58, but your video shows that beacon is somewhere like -25, -174 (blurry, so can't read it completely). Go to the actual coords and it should still be there (nowhere near the beacon)
 
If there is something similar to this mythical nursery f.........which mentions Palin or any of the other story we were given.

So I think the same is true for anything else that's crucial to the lead-in for 2.4; the question is whether we can find it (if there).

I say we kidnap Palin and get him to cough up - he's on the inside ;)

yeah, if the thargoids are going to make toast of me it can at least be spread with that galactic favourite, Palin Lung Butter
 
Thought:

The Thargoids might have developed their own ‘Mycoid virus’ that works on our infrastructure.

The UAs and UPs corrode our ship systems to the point of failure. Just like the Mycoid virus was supposed to corrode their ship hyper-drives in lore. Their UAs were a curiosity and lured us in, they scanned our ships and sent back ‘technical diagrams’ for analysis, and tested the corrosiveness of their development once we scooped them up.

So far only really big ships have shown any damage from Thargoid encounters. And the damage seems to be corrosive (the green “fog” around the ships is the hull burning away). This could be a more aggressive version being tested.

That isn’t to say they have it out for us. Considering humanity developed such a weapon first, this could be their way of creating ‘mutually assured destruction’ before fully exposing themselves.

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But whether the damage is some unintended incompatibility of materials or from some sort of weapon, we might need Palin to start producing meta-alloy hulls so we can survive really close encounters, friendly or not.

^ This.
 
I'm sure this has been noted before - but, I'm giving moon 2b at HIP 17044 a good looking over - an ammonia gas giant with life, right by Thargoid "attack" and a landable moon right alongside ? - got to be worth a look.
 
I'm sure this has been noted before - but, I'm giving moon 2b at HIP 17044 a good looking over - an ammonia gas giant with life, right by Thargoid "attack" and a landable moon right alongside ? - got to be worth a look.

If you want some company, I'd be down for goin' out there here shortly with you.

B
 
If you want some company, I'd be down for goin' out there here shortly with you.

B

I'd be down for it too in about an hour or so, gonna do a couple of delivery runs for the new Imperial capship and then sell my Type 6 and hop into a properly outfitted Asp
 
You know what...

When watching this trailer again...

[video=youtube;PEQTj8dTOC0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEQTj8dTOC0[/video]

The way in which the ship positions itself slowly, and the way in which it stops near, not over, the ships and those SRVs toward the end of the video, makes me wonder if the Thargoid ship was actually approaching to harvest a Barnacle near the structure that is thought to be located in HIP 22460.

I've checked Canonn's Barnacles spreadsheet, but can't find any Barnacles that had been located in HIP 22460.

Link: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...3GQhC5KT-o9u05ihWKXebt4BcM/edit#gid=223643326

Because, if we had co-ordinates of some Barnacles in that system (someone must do), then I expect the structure could be located within 60 minutes of the system being unlocked because those locations of known barnacles could be found quickly.
 
You know what...

When watching this trailer again...


The way in which the ship positions itself slowly, and the way in which it stops near, not over, the ships and those SRVs toward the end of the video, makes me wonder if the Thargoid ship was actually approaching to harvest a Barnacle near the structure that is thought to be located in HIP 22460.

I've checked Canonn's Barnacles spreadsheet, but can't find any Barnacles that had been located in HIP 22460.

Link: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...3GQhC5KT-o9u05ihWKXebt4BcM/edit#gid=223643326

Because, if we had co-ordinates of some Barnacles in that system (someone must do), then I expect the structure could be located within 60 minutes of the system being unlocked because those locations of known barnacles could be found quickly.

There was a window of maybe a week at most, had time to explore that system before 2.3 locked us out.

Several fumarole sites and my first and only ever geyser find is in that system. Was looking for barnacles during that week and found none at the time.

Not to say they're not there. Certainly the trailer says they are. and i'm sure if that permit is unlocked , i'd probably find a barnacle before the wreck site was located.
It was also beyond the range from nebula critera presumed at the time. OI-T system pushed that range further but 22460 is further still, <100 lyrs from nebula centre.

If the Thargoid was turning up there coincidentally at the barnacle and the wreckage just happened to be nearby i would be surprised. Too many similarities between MA and presumed eggsac , if it isnt the same thing.
Structural features on the 'cave' scene with the egg sacs, just like barnacle features of the main body at the lowest points.

Too similar to be cooincidence.


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Decided to come up with some crackpot barnacle whispering,, nope crackpot Thargoid resupply station whispering mad theory from the pieces of the puzzle we have already, and push those bits all together and make them fit,
ahem,,, bit of making that jigsaw fit together type of manner..

Many beers were involved and thoughts during a few smoke breaks , pondering and tweeking a bit more insanity into in during a Saturday night.. wasn't really for anyone's eyes but turned out not that bad, and hell might even turn out to be spot on ,, now if FD tomorrow post how the hell you know ? and send me a prize , doubtful, hehe, but at least will be some small entertainment till the next bit of major science.

Part 1. just observation...- -. -.- -. --- .-- -. UNKNOWN...- . ... ... . .-.. ... VESSELS-.. . - . -.-. - . -.. .-.-.- DETECTED.... . .-. ...- . .-. .--. ..- .-. --. . SERVERPURGE..-. .- .. .-.. . -.. .-.-.- FAILED. ( Unknown ship scans not wiped, left for us to scan )... .... .. .--. SHIP.- ... ... . - ... ASSETS.-.. .. --.- ..- .. -.. .- - . -.. .-.-.- LIQUIDATED.( Crew killed ).--. .- -.-- .-.. --- .- -.. PAYLOAD-.. . ... - .-. --- -.-- . -.. .-.-.- DESTROYED.( unknown items carried destroyed , unknown link ? , maybe what attracted the attack in first place )... .... .. .--. SHIP... - .- - ..- ... STATUS.-.. --- ... - .-.-.- LOST. ( well obvious )Part 2. Thargoids , barnacles, both seem related. UA , UP , dont seem directly related.

FD seem hesitant to suggest a link quickly, but they also suggested thargoids may not be thargoids at earlier stages.


Doesnt look any direct structural similarities, only UA/ UP fireflies seem similar to barnacle fireflies.UA UP only seen so far around Pleiades,, not witch head or california, where barnacles do reside.strange , if the UP UA too were thargoid,, why there.. So, maybe UP UA are not thargoid origin, maybe human modified or other origin to track thargoids.
The UA shell was a prison trapping the Thargoids within the Pleiades. UP for tracking Thargoid planets which we dont have yet. But what may become in 2.4 what is refered to as Thargoid Locales.

us moving and other humans moving UA from the shell, has slowly awoken the sleeping trapped Thargoids within.

Beer does help with these mad ideas. that one has brewed for a couple of days. Until we find out more on the origins of UA and UP thats my latest crackpot theory unless that supposed latest viewing of the unknown trailer crash scene, with egg sacs etc, and some sort of transmitter.....transmitter being unknown link. Some sort of pheremone transmitter like many insect hive minded with drone workers use. ,, made them attack the convoy from E3 reveal.
probably salvaged from the supposed wreckage from HIP 22460 Thargoid mothership, and the Shadow organisation or Feds + whoever , have that link and were using it to control and lead the Thargoid worker drones...



 
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You know what...

When watching this trailer again...


The way in which the ship positions itself slowly, and the way in which it stops near, not over, the ships and those SRVs toward the end of the video, makes me wonder if the Thargoid ship was actually approaching to harvest a Barnacle near the structure that is thought to be located in HIP 22460.

I've checked Canonn's Barnacles spreadsheet, but can't find any Barnacles that had been located in HIP 22460.

Link: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...3GQhC5KT-o9u05ihWKXebt4BcM/edit#gid=223643326

Because, if we had co-ordinates of some Barnacles in that system (someone must do), then I expect the structure could be located within 60 minutes of the system being unlocked because those locations of known barnacles could be found quickly.

There's a barnacle spike visible at 22 seconds into this teaser, so I would expect to find barnacles near this new site, though I'd also expect them to be new barnacles rather than pre-existing ones.

Also this new feature is so big it'll be much easier to spot than barnacles.
 
There was a window of maybe a week at most, had time to explore that system before 2.3 locked us out.

Several fumarole sites and my first and only ever geyser find is in that system. Was looking for barnacles during that week and found none at the time.

Not to say they're not there. Certainly the trailer says they are. and i'm sure if that permit is unlocked , i'd probably find a barnacle before the wreck site was located.
It was also beyond the range from nebula critera presumed at the time. OI-T system pushed that range further but 22460 is further still, <100 lyrs from nebula centre.

If the Thargoid was turning up there coincidentally at the barnacle and the wreckage just happened to be nearby i would be surprised. Too many similarities between MA and presumed eggsac , if it isnt the same thing.
Structural features on the 'cave' scene with the egg sacs, just like barnacle features of the main body at the lowest points.

Too similar to be cooincidence.

Cool, thanks for that :)

Also, HIP 22460 is literally 10.77ly away from the start of the Synuefe sector (SYNUEFE GX-B C16-5) - from there, you can follow a trail of Synuefe systems mixed in with others until you reach the main bulk of Synuefe systems filled with the Guardian Ruins...

Could be related.
 
You know what...

When watching this trailer again...


The way in which the ship positions itself slowly, and the way in which it stops near, not over, the ships and those SRVs toward the end of the video, makes me wonder if the Thargoid ship was actually approaching to harvest a Barnacle near the structure that is thought to be located in HIP 22460.

I've checked Canonn's Barnacles spreadsheet, but can't find any Barnacles that had been located in HIP 22460.

Link: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...3GQhC5KT-o9u05ihWKXebt4BcM/edit#gid=223643326

Because, if we had co-ordinates of some Barnacles in that system (someone must do), then I expect the structure could be located within 60 minutes of the system being unlocked because those locations of known barnacles could be found quickly.

I'm sorry if this was noted before, so let me know if it was, but in this trailer the commanders are in multi-crew, while winged up. I thought that wasn't possible? Also, even with a structure that large, I feel like it would be about as difficult to find as a ruin site (which is still far easier than a barnacle)
 
Cave ruins location

You know what...

When watching this trailer again...


The way in which the ship positions itself slowly, and the way in which it stops near, not over, the ships and those SRVs toward the end of the video, makes me wonder if the Thargoid ship was actually approaching to harvest a Barnacle near the structure that is thought to be located in HIP 22460.

I've checked Canonn's Barnacles spreadsheet, but can't find any Barnacles that had been located in HIP 22460.

Link: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...3GQhC5KT-o9u05ihWKXebt4BcM/edit#gid=223643326

Because, if we had co-ordinates of some Barnacles in that system (someone must do), then I expect the structure could be located within 60 minutes of the system being unlocked because those locations of known barnacles could be found quickly.

(I had inaccurate data on HIP 22460 at the time this was posted, Disregard)
 
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