Youtuber Kornelius Briedis seems to have had it with Fdevs

Scott Manley ,astonomer, rocketeer, loves elite, superb voice, over 600000 youtube subscribers.

I wonder how many he has brought to Elite?
(He does many space games and doesn't concentrate on ED)

Thanks to him I got in to Orbiter and Kerbal, absolutely great channel. I first heard about new Elite from him too.
 
Oh, well, if Kornholius or whatever has pulled back...

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then who cares? It's not like YouTube actually matters, nor do any of these people who think their opinions actually matter. Anybody with a mic can be a YouTuber. They're barely pennies apiece.

*Pseudo-psychology alert!!!!* :D

Nice line in passive-aggressive jealousy you have there! Let me see if I can read between the lines...

"Oh why don't people take notice of what I think instead!? Boo-hoo-hooooooooo"
 
I wasnt going to comment on this thread, but I thought I would share my view.

Why Kornelius stopped making youtube videos was based on a personal choice on how he felt about the game. Some of those reasons I agree with, others not so much. But that's cool, we all interact with the game on different levels and have certain expectations when playing a game. Obviously his expectations were not being met, and I cant blame him at all. The most recent nerf of the AI and a non functional crime and punishment system were some of those reasons.

His videos however were extremely useful, and technically very informative, even if his personal views of the game were becoming more and more negative. I think the community will miss his content, however the game will go on and so will the community. Casual gamers, veteran players could all find something useful in his videos, I know I certainly did, and even though his departure will have minimal effect on the game itself, I still think its important to recognize his contribution and maybe it might offer a window for the devs to look through and see that some of their choices are perhaps not in the best interest of the game or community. Sure, he is just one guy, but he reflects a reasonable portion of the communities concerns about the game, myself included.
 
I'm almost ashamed to have to share a forum with some of these folks. Just so very disappointing.

Maybe don't then.

Just go and play the game.

It does not MATTER what other people are doing and playing and making youtube videos about and not making youtube videos about. It does not matter that people are running around like the sky is falling. It does not matter if you share a forum with people all called 'Steve' from Wandsworth and they say that Elite is going to turn into a pink elephant.

What matters is playing and enjoying the game. Not what other people do or play.

If a negative perception caused by one person quitting is such a blow because they are such an important facet and a star of the community, and that really matters to you, maybe start a youtube channel.
 
I wasnt going to comment on this thread, but I thought I would share my view.

Why Kornelius stopped making youtube videos was based on a personal choice on how he felt about the game. Some of those reasons I agree with, others not so much. But that's cool, we all interact with the game on different levels and have certain expectations when playing a game. Obviously his expectations were not being met, and I cant blame him at all. The most recent nerf of the AI and a non functional crime and punishment system were some of those reasons.

His videos however were extremely useful, and technically very informative, even if his personal views of the game were becoming more and more negative. I think the community will miss his content, however the game will go on and so will the community. Casual gamers, veteran players could all find something useful in his videos, I know I certainly did, and even though his departure will have minimal effect on the game itself, I still think its important to recognize his contribution and maybe it might offer a window for the devs to look through and see that some of their choices are perhaps not in the best interest of the game or community. Sure, he is just one guy, but he reflects a reasonable portion of the communities concerns about the game, myself included.

It's not that a single player leaving can impact the game. It's what losing the good opinion of diehard veteran fans of the game signals about the game itself.

If it wasn't for the Engineer exploits and other unpublicized game breaking bugs that certain PVP groups have kept in their front pockets, I might think that Kornelius was being rash. Especially since we have aliens and new gameplay enhancements on the way right? Right?

But honestly, having ships that are cumulatively 30-100% superior to other "Big 3" ships with just-under-god G5 rolls?? That's just the marginal difference between the Best and the Best-of-the-Best. That's Nuts!!! And the fact that Frontier have apparently allowed the cheaters to keep their spoils, means that Frontier doesn't care about attracting new players, or retaining ones that don't cheat.
 
I wasnt going to comment on this thread, but I thought I would share my view.

Why Kornelius stopped making youtube videos was based on a personal choice on how he felt about the game. Some of those reasons I agree with, others not so much. But that's cool, we all interact with the game on different levels and have certain expectations when playing a game. Obviously his expectations were not being met, and I cant blame him at all. The most recent nerf of the AI and a non functional crime and punishment system were some of those reasons.

His videos however were extremely useful, and technically very informative, even if his personal views of the game were becoming more and more negative. I think the community will miss his content, however the game will go on and so will the community. Casual gamers, veteran players could all find something useful in his videos, I know I certainly did, and even though his departure will have minimal effect on the game itself, I still think its important to recognize his contribution and maybe it might offer a window for the devs to look through and see that some of their choices are perhaps not in the best interest of the game or community. Sure, he is just one guy, but he reflects a reasonable portion of the communities concerns about the game, myself included.

plus... what are the chances of any other ED commentator sounding like Pavel Chekov for that authentic sci fi feeling?. ;)

It is sad when anyone gets disillusioned about a game, and he undoubtedly sold some copies of the game... but as you say, the game will go on, and making a few (good) youtube videos does not make his view more important than others. FD will do what FD do... Personally i just hope their "back to the core" updates are taken directly from the DDF.
 
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But now that he's stopped playing (at least for now) I suppose it's time to pretend he didn't exist. It's just pathetic and I certainly hope FDev isn't as self-centered or as arrogant as some of these posters. I'm almost ashamed to have to share a forum with some of these folks. Just so very disappointing.
Sorry mate, almost 3000 hours put in mean I will speak my mind. :D

And it's not as if the reasons for him to stop playing haven't been uttered on these forums. But because of some sort of status this guy has got, only now it is worth taking notice? Or as the OP put it, FDev was welcome to be napping all this time, but now Kornelius has stop playing, FDev has to wake up? I guess it's time to pretend these forums and the criticism being posted on it each and every day do not exist.
 
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But honestly, having ships that are cumulatively 30-100% superior to other "Big 3" ships with just-under-god G5 rolls?? That's just the marginal difference between the Best and the Best-of-the-Best. That's Nuts!!! And the fact that Frontier have apparently allowed the cheaters to keep their spoils, means that Frontier doesn't care about attracting new players, or retaining ones that don't cheat.

I totally agree it is nuts.. imo if they CANT detect those who cheated from those who didnt, they need to start collating better data and then write into the story that something the thargoids do render all weapons useless and we have to swap them out for "fixed" weapons designed to get around their block... then moving forward FD need to treat the exploiters with an iron fist

yes it would hurt many legit players... but this is 80% the fault of the cheaters, and only 20% the fault of FD imo. it is vital for all MP games that players who are cheaters are stopped.

I know there are those who are not bothered about MP and would rather have a single player game they could mod etc and do what ever they want. Sadly FD chose not to allow this so for better or for worse this is what we have.

That said................. imo IF FD do nothing, it does not kill ED ............ it only kills open imo (and even then open may eventually survive if FD bury their head in the sand long enough and pretend nothing happened). (by virtue of player ignorance)

its a rubbish state of affairs and FDs apparent inaction is awful............. but it wont kill the game.

i am going to hope that its just E3 that has slowed everything down and at some point in the next week or so the other shoe falls.. but if it doesnt i think it is fair to say nightshady and all his 13th legion cheating scum bags, have, as they openly said, cheated the game, rubbed FDs faces in it, and gotten away with their spoils.

The day any of that lot ever comment on cloggers however, well lets just say i suspect i will be earning my 1st forum time out. 1 thing i cant stand is hypocrisy and that lot are as hypocritical as it gets.
 
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But honestly, having ships that are cumulatively 30-100% superior to other "Big 3" ships with just-under-god G5 rolls?? That's just the marginal difference between the Best and the Best-of-the-Best. That's Nuts!!! And the fact that Frontier have apparently allowed the cheaters to keep their spoils, means that Frontier doesn't care about attracting new players, or retaining ones that don't cheat.

We don't actually know this about FDev, do we?

I confess FDev's silence appears to be a very poor marketing choice - there's clearly a lot of passion and talent in the company, but top-notch communications advice appears to be a black-hole for them.

But, that aside, isn't it actually far more likely that currently FDev have no pragmatic way of telling who has acquired a VERY GOOD ship by dubious means? Yes, it seems obvious to some that there should be logs by which they can trace it, but that's with hindsight. Having spent decades in the software industry, I find it unlikely that they anticipated this bug. Not impossible. Just unlikely.

If that is so, then the only choice FDev really have is a code a new game mechanic that will eventually neuter this unfair advantage - at the risk of hurting some genuinely innocent grinders. That will take time, and they will be unsure of the timescale or precisely how it will work and indeed how unfair it just might be. A recipe for much grievance in fans who will leap to conclusions - perhaps unfairly- before the code is released.

Perhaps the new arms-race that may be coming with the Thargoid incursion may be exactly that opportunity.

I have faith in FDev. It is perhaps misplaced. But the only negative evidence is the incompetence/absence in community leadership communication. All the rest appears to be supposition on this forum.
 
To be honest not much changed in Elite in last 8 months if we look at base gameplay - like BGS, trade,exploring, missions , Powerplay, ships and engineers...

So I guess it would be hard for him even found topic for new video about FD, if he even tried to return to Elite..

Also he had ~11b in the bank and also all maxed ships, so it was basically Game completed for him since there was nothing to do for him...

He was not alien story fan or explorer, too..
 
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It's not that a single player leaving can impact the game. It's what losing the good opinion of diehard veteran fans of the game signals about the game itself.

If it wasn't for the Engineer exploits and other unpublicized game breaking bugs that certain PVP groups have kept in their front pockets, I might think that Kornelius was being rash. Especially since we have aliens and new gameplay enhancements on the way right? Right?

But honestly, having ships that are cumulatively 30-100% superior to other "Big 3" ships with just-under-god G5 rolls?? That's just the marginal difference between the Best and the Best-of-the-Best. That's Nuts!!! And the fact that Frontier have apparently allowed the cheaters to keep their spoils, means that Frontier doesn't care about attracting new players, or retaining ones that don't cheat.

I agree 100%.. Personally I dont blame Kornelius for leaving, I had a private conversation with him a while ago about this, and I can completely understand his reasons for leaving...

The whole Engineer cheat debacle has basically ruined open for a lot of people I have talked to.. I guess its not much fun for them being in their trade cutter, then being incinerated by a god rolled FDL in a matter of seconds at a CG.. Git Gud no longer applies here I'm afraid... The big problem is Frontier have dug their own grave.. Do they remove everyones rolls and force everyone to re-roll? Do they remove the RNG aspect of Engineers? Do they completely remove engineers entirely for now and re-think the whole concept? Whatever they decide the community is going to pounce on them and there will be outrage...

People will hate me for this, but I think engineers needs to be removed temporarily and re-worked.. its just creating a wider rift between playstyles and I dont think thats good for the game.
 
I certainly hope that Frontier find a way to fix this on a game wide structural level. They basically have to either:

A) retroactively Nuke Engineers secondary bonuses from orbit, since it's the only way to be sure that no cheater god mods remain

B) create a new tech arms race that makes the god mods obsolete

I think many people would prefer option (A) since it won't undo a year's worth of grinding. Then again, by the sunk cost principle, many more might be thrilled to be rid of the RNG lotto system. I'm probably from the former group, but I can see the benefits of both solutions.
 
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To be honest not much changed in Elite in last 8 months if we look at base gameplay - like BGS, trade,exploring, missions , Powerplay, ships and engineers...

So I guess it would be hard for him even found topic for new video about FD, if he even tried to return to Elite..

Also he had ~11b in the bank and also all maxed ships, so it was basically Game completed for him since there was nothing to do for him...

He was not alien story fan or explorer, too..

Which probably just stands to highlight the lack of content development. Most MMO's will add extensions to their game to keep players moving forward. This is a critical problem with Elite. You get to a point where it just ends, unceremoniously stops. It's like a movie just going to credits mid scene, very unforfilling.
 
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People will hate me for this, but I think engineers needs to be removed temporarily and re-worked.. its just creating a wider rift between playstyles and I dont think thats good for the game.

Don't hate you for the suggestion. I think it is the best thing to do 'for the game'. But it risks alienating the community that supports the game. That's all. You still might be right - and if so, we are alienating a larger community by not doing as you say. I'd just like some actual facts.

Alternate suggestion: stop insurance covering mods [there is no in-game logic as to why the insurance can recreate the same mods instantly anyway], the players will eventually knock each other out. Or other less-modded players will gang up on them knowing they may at last be able to get justice...

You are still right that engineering (as well as C&P) do need urgently fixing though.

BTW your videos got me into the game. So thanks! I am a terrible combat pilot though...
 
Which probably just stands to highlight the lack of content development. Most MMO's will add extensions to their game to keep players moving forward.

And most players will complete additional content before the next comes out. Heck: Some will complete it in a week! It does not mean disaster, especially considering that FD's point releases are less widespread than many other MMO's.
 
And most players will complete additional content before the next comes out. Heck: Some will complete it in a week! It does not mean disaster, especially considering that FD's point releases are less widespread than many other MMO's.

No point release has thus far extended the "content ceiling", which is the problem. We've gone a very long time with out extending what amounts to "end game". At best we could argue that the addition of the Corvette and Cutter were, but it was so short lived that its really quite a minimal extension.
What we need, are more tiers in a similar vein to what the Corvette and Cutter brought. As the game ages, the average credit account is going to grow exponentially, so we need to cater for that as much as we do the new player.

While it is true, that many players will complete the additional content before ther release of new content. The key problem that Elite faces is the ultimate uncertanty about the actual eventuation of said content. We keep getting side ways additions, which doesn't really help veteran players.
 
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I have learned a lot on this thread.
1) The average forumite here has way too much time on their hands.
2) Life must be pretty good if this subject is the cause of much angst and concern for them.
3) Too much of anything, even ED, is not good for you apparently.

Guess I could wax on more but I got to go to work.
 
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