MWSOG: Milky Way Society of Organics and Geology

roryclague · Jun 16, 2017

This will be my last post tonight - sorry for flooding the thread! I have a long backlog.

I found a few interesting sites in the Bubble Nebula on my way back from a trip out to the Formidine Rift; unfortunately this was before the Zurara was found.

Bubble Sector FB-X c1-26 C 2
Major silicate vapour geysers
Coordinates: 0.7145, -156.8013

Planetary body data:

Bubble Sector FB-X c1-26 C 2

High Metal Content Body, None, Landable
Earth Masses: 0.0045
Body Radius: 1088.77km
Surface Temp: 427K
Gravity: 0.2g
Volcanism: Major Silicate Vapour Geysers Volcanism
Distance from Arrival Point 1,047.8ls
Orbital Period: 0.4 days
Semi Major Axis: 2,354.2km
Orbital Eccentricity: 0.031°
Orbital Inclination: -7.626°
Arg Of Periapsis: 46.082°
Rotation Period: 0.5 days
Tidally locked

Materials:
Iron (Fe) Very Common 23.1%
Nickel (Ni) Very Common 17.4%
Sulphur (S) Very Common 16.3%
Carbon (C) Very Common 13.7%
Manganese (Mn) Common 9.5%
Phosphorus (P) Very Common 8.8%
Germanium (Ge) Common 4.8%
Selenium (Se) Common 2.5%
Cadmium (Cd) Rare 1.8%
Tin (Sn) Rare 1.5%
Polonium (Po) Very Rare 0.6%
Estimated value: 34310

Screen shot:

Asp in front of things

Bubble Sector LX-T B3-1 1 A
Major silicate vapour geysers
Coordinates: -62.8137, -95.1126

Planetary body data:

Bubble Sector LX-T b3-1 1 a

Rocky Body, None, Landable
Earth Masses: 0.0002
Body Radius: 421.29km
Surface Temp: 322K
Gravity: 0.1g
Volcanism: Major Silicate Vapour Geysers Volcanism
Distance from Arrival Point 19.8ls
Orbital Period: 0.5 days
Semi Major Axis: 5,616.4km
Orbital Eccentricity: 0.000°
Orbital Inclination: -72.853°
Arg Of Periapsis: 86.721°
Rotation Period: 0.6 days
Tidally locked

Materials:
Iron (Fe) Very Common 21.3%
Sulphur (S) Very Common 19.0%
Nickel (Ni) Very Common 16.1%
Carbon (C) Very Common 16.0%
Phosphorus (P) Very Common 10.2%
Zinc (Zn) Common 5.8%
Vanadium (V) Common 5.2%
Zirconium (Zr) Common 2.5%
Cadmium (Cd) Rare 1.7%
Tellurium (Te) Very Rare 1.4%
Mercury (Hg) Rare 0.9%
Estimated value: 928

This field was in a crater, which I find to be somewhat rarer than those sites that are found within canyons. Thanks to CMDR Mad Raptor for joining me in my ship to check this site out! Sorry it took so long to submit this to the list.

Screen shot:

Another field on the same body:
Coordinates: 11.6370, -99.9301

Screen shot:

During the day:

At night:

varonica · Jun 17, 2017

Arnul said:
Maybe this could help:

Using data from my last expedition ( I scanned 1054 landable bodies - 384 RB, 138 HMC, 476 I, 50 MR, 6 RI ) I made some research about volcanism and orbital period:

Orbital Period (D):
From 0.2 to 1.0 - (95 bodies) all bodies have volcanism. (67-major, 25-"none", 3-minor)
From 1.0 to 2.0 (96) - 83 bodies have volcanism, 13 not. (47-major, 9-"none", 27-minor)
From 2.0 to 3.0 (78) - 46 volcanism, 32 not. (14-major, 23-"none", 9-minor)
From 3.0 to 4.0 (61) - 23 volcanism, 38 not. (13-major, 0-"none", 10-minor)
More than 4.0 (724) - 61 volcanism, 663 not !!!!! (22-major, 12-"none", 27-minor)

---------All bodies with OrbitalPeriod <= 1.4 D (142) have volcanism !!! ---------------

I usually use this pattern to find volcanic planet/moon:
- 1-2 bodies close to parent body,
- moons of the moons,
- binar bodies.

Here I made example of good and bad sets of bodies for volcanism (sry for terrible quality). It is not 100% accurate but could be very helpful:

http://i.imgur.com/IuyGCew.jpg

That's useful information, however there's a key data point missing which is why I have set my table up like it is, and that is the radius of the bodies. All bodies under around 1500km radius are not volcanic unless they are within a few ls of a neighbouring planet or main star. Once you get much over that radius the cause of volcanism changes. Your first stat seems to indicate that bodies really close to other bodies usually have major vulcanism, how much the gravitational partnership affects it is what I am trying to find out. If you have your data in a format that allows extraction of radius of the bodies that would be even more useful.

El-Thorgrin · Jun 18, 2017

Finally, i was able to find one of these things !!
So,

Sector : Synuefe VI-T c6-1
Planet : B 1
Coord : 3.8222 - 61.2025
Iron Magma

F386C70A05EC18FB35F26DA5277450D76D780F62

C460BFDA3B5B5DB3542EB66C157BB08864BA54E7

8A8BFCA1706B65450153618A3E37B79486005D94

D89EB8BAA9597D5365F0569B5F88CB02C7334CF4

varonica · Jun 19, 2017

Right, time for a big update. As many of you know I have been checking around the Rosette Nebula and finally ended up right next to the system where CMDR Galactic Fork found his bark mounds, his first find I believe from searching planets and moons. So I popped over to the system to check them out and saw there were a number of prospective voclanic and biologically active bodies, it appears on checking the database that few of these bodies have been checked, so off I go! After a few days I have finished, finding twenty examples of life and/or vulcanism.

The system in question is Rosette Sector EL-Y d15, 5,333ly from Sol in the Rosette Nebula, Starpos (2361.03, -189.34, -4778.94).

Rather than going straight to Galactic Forks find I decided to leave it to last, MadRaptor reported it missing a few days ago so I didn't want my exploration to start on a sad note. The moon where the bark mounds were found has a close companion, ideal for life and volcanism;

Rosette Sector EL-Y d15 2 A, Major Silicate Vapour Geysers, Orbital Period 0.4 days.

Lat -44.71, Lon -0.37

Lat -23.02, Lon 146.02

Following the volcanic sites I had great luck finding two bio sites with bark mounds;

Lat -20.53, Lon 151.35 - very close to my previous volcanic site!

Lat -18.14, Lon 96.39

After finding those I was well pleased, only then did I move on to 2 B where the original bark mounds were, I decided to search for my own stuff first.

Again I found four sites, this time three volcanism and one bio.

Rosette Sector EL-Y d15 2 B, Major Silicate Vapour Geysers, Orbital Period 0.4 days.

Lat 6.34, Lon 30.04

Lat -1.50, Lon -114.89

Lat 30.29, Lon -54.54

Then my bio site to add to Galactic Fork's find;

Lat 13.66, Lon -40.78

After finding those I then went to check Galactic Fork's site out, but alas as reported previously, no sign of them, only the large shrinking POI.

For my next few finds I traveled to the far reaches of the system to the neighbouring star just over 300kls away from the primary;

Rosette Sector EL-Y d15 B 1 A A, Major Silicate Vapour geysers, Orbital period 0.2 days.

While it appeared ideal, it proved tough, having no really standout geographic features except for that long diagonal scar which contained both my finds, making it hard to search, I found two sites here;

Lat -49.77, Lon -119.15

Lat -69.55, Lon -71.60

And so I moved on to my final two bodies, both of which proved to be extremely reluctant to reveal thier secrets. They were, like the previous body, difficult to search, with almost no visible canyons and on the system map, I found one site only between them, disapointing;

Rosette Sector EL-Y d15 B 4 B, Major Silicate vapour geysers, orbital period 0.5 days.

Lat 19.46, Lon -82.83

And finally we can't leave without a couple of tourist shots;

Now I am sure there is more in the system, there were a couple of larger bodies I didn't check that had vulcanism and possibly life, so if anyone feels like traveling out there good luck.

Baton · Jun 19, 2017

varonica said:
Following the volcanic sites I had great luck finding two bio sites with bark mounds;

Lat -20.53, Lon 151.35 - very close to my previous volcanic site!

http://i.imgur.com/bynj9qR.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/7ZGDM2c.jpg

Lat -18.14, Lon 96.39

http://i.imgur.com/yNaQIhK.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/9Tzb3KH.jpg

Well done indeed. Looks like the theory about life mostly in splash craters is debunk now? Or was it just brain trees?

varonica · Jun 19, 2017

Baton said:
Well done indeed. Looks like the theory about life mostly in splash craters is debunk now? Or was it just brain trees?

I think so far brain Trees have only been found in splash craters, I suspect a different life cycle is involved. I have never found vulcanism in a splash crater either, so it may be that Brain Trees aren't as reliant on vulcanism as other life forms that only seem to appear in the same environment we would expect to find vulcansim. It may even be that Brain Trees can be found on bodies that aren't volcanic, but of course someone needs to start searching splash craters on non-volcanic worlds to see if any can be found.

Arnul · Jun 19, 2017

varonica said:
That's useful information, however there's a key data point missing which is why I have set my table up like it is, and that is the radius of the bodies. All bodies under around 1500km radius are not volcanic unless they are within a few ls of a neighbouring planet or main star. Once you get much over that radius the cause of volcanism changes. Your first stat seems to indicate that bodies really close to other bodies usually have major vulcanism, how much the gravitational partnership affects it is what I am trying to find out. If you have your data in a format that allows extraction of radius of the bodies that would be even more useful.

With bodies <= 1500 km it looks even better:

688 bodies 202 volcanism

Orbital Period (D):
From 0.2 to 1.0 - (71) all bodies have volcanism.(52-major, 19-"none", 0-minor)
From 1.0 to 2.0 (66) - 60 bodies hane volcanism, 6 not. (36-major, 7-"none", 17-minor)
From 2.0 to 3.0 (63) - 41 volcanism, 22 not. (11-major, 23-"none", 7-minor)
From 3.0 to 4.0 (50) - 23 volcanism, 27 not. (13-major, 0-"none", 10-minor)
More than 4.0 (438) - 7 volcanism, 431 not !!!!! (0-major, 1-"none", 6-minor)

========================================
Some new sites:

24. SYSTEM: California Sector DL-Y d4 -- BODY: C 2 -- COORD: 1,73 / 25,24 -- TYPE: Silicate Vapour Geysers

25. SYSTEM: California Sector DL-Y d4 -- BODY: C 3 -- COORD: 43,97 / -76,89 -- TYPE: Silicate Vapour Geysers

26. SYSTEM: California Sector DL-Y d4 -- BODY: C 3 -- COORD: -41,9 / -134,79 -- TYPE: Silicate Vapour Geysers

27. SYSTEM: California Sector DL-Y d4 -- BODY: C 3 -- COORD: -17,46 / -173,81 -- TYPE: Silicate Vapour Geysers

28. SYSTEM: Synuefue JS-J d9-5 -- BODY: B 1 -- COORD: 17,88 / 21,85 -- TYPE: Silicate Vapour Geysers

varonica · Jun 19, 2017

Arnul said:
With bodies <= 1500 km it looks even better:

688 bodies 202 volcanism

Orbital Period (D):
From 0.2 to 1.0 - (71) all bodies have volcanism.(52-major, 19-"none", 0-minor)
From 1.0 to 2.0 (66) - 60 bodies hane volcanism, 6 not. (36-major, 7-"none", 17-minor)
From 2.0 to 3.0 (63) - 41 volcanism, 22 not. (11-major, 23-"none", 7-minor)
From 3.0 to 4.0 (50) - 23 volcanism, 27 not. (13-major, 0-"none", 10-minor)
More than 4.0 (438) - 7 volcanism, 431 not !!!!! (0-major, 1-"none", 6-minor)

========================================

Excellent data, very much reflects my own thoughts, the shorter the orbital period the more likely we will get major volcanism. Of course it's never going to be 100%, there will always be outliers.

CMDR MadRaptor · Jun 19, 2017

varonica said:
I think so far brain Trees have only been found in splash craters, I suspect a different life cycle is involved. I have never found vulcanism in a splash crater either, so it may be that Brain Trees aren't as reliant on vulcanism as other life forms that only seem to appear in the same environment we would expect to find vulcansim. It may even be that Brain Trees can be found on bodies that aren't volcanic, but of course someone needs to start searching splash craters on non-volcanic worlds to see if any can be found.

I think the best way to test this theory is to just go out into the areas where guardians ruins are found and just check every planet you can. There are three regions I know of, the one next to the bubble, skaudi and i think one other. If the trees are tied to the ruins they will be in those areas, and if they can appear anywhere then they should be easily findable, especially in the area of where they have already been found.

Deleted member 38366 · Jun 19, 2017

Water Geysers
Pleiades Sector OI-T C3-7 A 11 A
Coordinates : 21.43 | 18.43

Water Geysers
Pleiades Sector OI-T C3-7 A 11 B
Coordinates : 21.42 | -47.53

varonica · Jun 20, 2017

CMDR MadRaptor said:
I think the best way to test this theory is to just go out into the areas where guardians ruins are found and just check every planet you can. There are three regions I know of, the one next to the bubble, skaudi and i think one other. If the trees are tied to the ruins they will be in those areas, and if they can appear anywhere then they should be easily findable, especially in the area of where they have already been found.

I am still finding stuff in the Rosette Nebula, after this I will check out where the areas are and head towards the nearest.

CMDR MadRaptor · Jun 20, 2017

varonica said:
I am still finding stuff in the Rosette Nebula, after this I will check out where the areas are and head towards the nearest.

Same, I've been a long hiatus from my expedition once all the alien stuff started, now that it has died down again I'm making my way back to jellyfish then I'll probably head towards the Skaudi Region that ruins have been found in.

Arnul · Jun 20, 2017

I found two new systems witch Cone Fungus:

System: Orion Sector WE-Z c7
Body: C 1
Coord: -46.07 : 90.08

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System: Running Man Sector EB-X c1-11
Body: B 2 a
Coord: -44.20 : -13.80

I found them using this pattern:
- body without atmosphere[smile]
- temp. between 227 K - 423 K
- volcanism - I didn't try bodies without but... if you can't find organics you can always find new volcanic site so bodies with volcanism are better
- Cone Fungus grow (?) in deep, dark kanyons (or near)
- they likes dark side of the body - not always
- it's better to search them using radar during glide flying because they are visible form less than 3 km by day and 1 km by night
- Cone Fungus always appears as Big POI which shrink after few seconds

And my pattern to find Brain Trees:
- body without atmosphere[smile]
- temp. between 209 K - 300 K
- volcanism
- in the middle of craters which looks "new" (straight walls, and strips around) - somthing like that:

You call it here splash craters.
- I suggest to search 2-3 craters to find out if Trees are present
- Brain Trees are visible on radar as Big POI

Trees and Fungus are not present in every part of Milky Way but nearly sure they are findable there:

Deleted member 38366 · Jun 20, 2017

Water Geysers
HIP 60953 ABC 4 B
Coordinates : 23.08 | -74.15

Water Geysers
HIP 60953 ABC 10 A
Coordinates : 76.58 | 122.81

varonica · Jun 21, 2017

Time for my last update on the Rosette Nebula, I have departed for Hell Port near the Seagull Nebula, the closest cartographic station to turn in my collected data from the Rosette Nebula bodies to close to the local station to turn in. It also takes me in the direction of the bubble, roughly. On the way out I stopped at one last system in the Rosette Nebula;

Rosette Sector FB-X c1-21 B 5 A, Major Silicate Vapour Geysers, 5,308ly from Sol, Starpos (2339.91, -184.88, -4761.59)

I really feel it's time to update my thoughts on the number of sites per body for these relatively tiny moons. At only 393km in radius, I have found a total of 5 volcanic sites, no life unfortunately, that seems to be restricted to the system Galactic Fork found, although granted we haven't really checked out any of the larger bodies with any degree of thoroughness so there may be more. I did find a large number of huge shrinking POI's but they were all rocks. There's also another thing to keep in mind, most searching is done on the lit side of these bodies, depending on speed of rotation and orbital period we could easily be missing as many as we find. Note this is also major vulcanism, I still think that bodies with major vulcanism have more sites, not just larger sites, the bodies I have trouble finding stuff on are the minor vulcanism bodies, these major vulcanism seem easy to search for sites in comparison. I would suggest a minimum of five sites for bodies with major vulcanism, that sounds about right barring any input from Fdev. So on with the listing.

Site 1 is a very active site, as are all of them, another sign of major vulcanism or just the time of the day?

Lat -2.71, Lon -119.30

Site 2, I noticed the colouration of the crystals here, it matches the colour of the gases, I checked later on other sites for the phenomena;

Lat -8.94m Lon -106.77

Site 3, here is where I noted the different colour of the crystal, translucent white as opposed to orange;

Lat 43.45, Lon 172.04

Site 4, a huge site on a large flat plain at the edge of a canyon, it really was remarkably large. Note also the two types of features, chimneys and flat smokers, I think we can assume that the flat smokers are a variation on the chimney where it hasn't had time to deposit a chimney.

Lat 26.83, Lon 89.31

Site 5, another quite large field.

Lat -0.94, Lon 18.04

So in conclusion I think we need to revise up our figures for the number of sites per body at least for bodies with major vulcanism.

Galactic Fork · Jun 21, 2017

I feel very inadequate in my exploration of the Rosette Nebula, varonica.

varonica · Jun 21, 2017

Galactic Fork said:
I feel very inadequate in my exploration of the Rosette Nebula, varonica.

No need, there are two things you need to think of when you feel that way, first and most important, if you hadn't discovered life out there I may never have gone out that way, and second, I have a lot more experience doing this and I think that counts for a lot in this endevour.

Janjalan · Jun 21, 2017

Seagull Sector FB-X c1-10 3 a
428,00km Radius
3819,65ly from Sol; 33,7ls from Arrival Point
Major silicate vapour geysers
Coords: -48.13 / 68.40

This site is on flat area and fairly big. Good for material gathering and the view is very nice with a fiery sky and barnards loop visible in the distance.

2nd site:
campfires in canyon
Coords: -77.46 / -77.03

Materials

Iron (Fe) Very Common 20,4%
Sulphur (S) Very Common 18,3%
Nickel (Ni) Very Common 15,5%
Carbon (C) Very Common 15,4%
Phosphorus (P) Very Common 9,9%
Chromium (Cr) Common 9,2%
Zinc (Zn) Common 5,6%
Arsenic (As) Common 2,4%
Ruthenium (Ru) Very Rare 1,3%
Tungsten (W) Rare 1,1%
Mercury (Hg) Rare 0,9%

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Slegeae OZ-O c22-0 4 a
Ice body with radius 748km
3656ly from Sol; 5163ls from arrival point

Water Geysers
Coords -38.28 / -70.46

Most of the site is on the wall of the canyon, it´s difficult to find a landing place and even more difficult to reach even the fringe of the site in the SRV - not recommended. I had to resort to relog into orbit to solve the situation when i could not get back to my ship.

Arnul · Jun 21, 2017

varonica said:
...
So in conclusion I think we need to revise up our figures for the number of sites per body at least for bodies with major vulcanism.

10 sites on Rocky Body. Radius 664KM, MAJOR Silicate Magma. I finished after scanning 3/4 of all canyons:

29. SYSTEM: Prooe Drye GG-A c28-0 -- BODY: D 2 -- COORD: 46,01 / -117,07 -- TYPE: Rocky Magma (Silicate Magma)

30. SYSTEM: Prooe Drye GG-A c28-0 -- BODY: D 2 -- COORD: 46,08 / -105,96 -- TYPE: Rocky Magma (Silicate Magma)

31. SYSTEM: Prooe Drye GG-A c28-0 -- BODY: D 2 -- COORD: 43,59 / -102,13 -- TYPE: Rocky Magma (Silicate Magma)

32. SYSTEM: Prooe Drye GG-A c28-0 -- BODY: D 2 -- COORD: 30,58 / -58,64 -- TYPE: Rocky Magma (Silicate Magma)

33. SYSTEM: Prooe Drye GG-A c28-0 -- BODY: D 2 -- COORD: 9,24 / 123,62 -- TYPE: Rocky Magma (Silicate Magma)

34. SYSTEM: Prooe Drye GG-A c28-0 -- BODY: D 2 -- COORD: 5,8 / 133,05 -- TYPE: Rocky Magma (Silicate Magma)

35. SYSTEM: Prooe Drye GG-A c28-0 -- BODY: D 2 -- COORD: -30,73 / -58,49 -- TYPE: Rocky Magma (Silicate Magma)

36. SYSTEM: Prooe Drye GG-A c28-0 -- BODY: D 2 -- COORD: 24,82 / 3,42 -- TYPE: Rocky Magma (Silicate Magma)

37. SYSTEM: Prooe Drye GG-A c28-0 -- BODY: D 2 -- COORD: 37,34 / -14,71 -- TYPE: Rocky Magma (Silicate Magma)

38. SYSTEM: Prooe Drye GG-A c28-0 -- BODY: D 2 -- COORD: 57.67 / 45.93 -- TYPE: Rocky Magma (Silicate Magma)

CMDR MadRaptor · Jun 21, 2017

Alright, how is everybody doing? Little notice about the website. I am in the process of adding a site list within the website in addition to the spreadsheets. The idea is to house just the basic info on the site: System/Body, COORDS, Discovered By, while the more detailed info you will be housed on the spreadsheets and that will include materials, distances from star and SOL and what not. Right now the sites listed on the actual website list will be alphanumerical at first but then it will become a simple ordering by date submitted. This will make it less of hassle for me to go back and edit everything to get the new sites in order, now the spreadsheets will remain in alpha order. Anyways, let me know what you think.

You will also notice that top 10 geysers link is no longer there. Submissions didn't go the way I wanted so I'm taking what I have and then I will be selecting some from the more recent submissions from this forum. So if you have something that you'd like considered, post in this thread and I'll put it in. I'll have my final decision on Sunday for the sites that I want submitted.

Fly safe and a very big welcome to any of you new hunters!

MWSOG: Milky Way Society of Organics and Geology

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