General / Off-Topic The General Politics Thread aka "I didn't Vote For You"

Well, I know of no atrocity committed by the Teletubbies, apart from the show itself which counts as cultural warcrime.

A search for Teletubbies terrorism came up with this.

[video=youtube;leQdEhzlRvE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leQdEhzlRvE[/video]
 
Algebra (or to give it the original Islamic name, Al-Jabr) is not a "fact". It is an epistemological tool used to create universal rules of mathematics and applied science, thus the comparison is complete junk.

Bullcrap is it junk.

As always, excellent employment of smokescreen and focusing attention to a single irrelevant point (in this case employment of comic device) to avoid confronting a challenge no religion will ever be able to answer: "provide evidence".

My simple point was that atheism is absolutely not the same as ISIS propaganda, because the majority of atheist beliefs are simply to accept what is observed and proved despite the ethical implications, while ISIS propaganda as any other religion utterly and fundamentally relies on the disregard of observation and evidence to preserve an ethics system. Polar opposites.

Take that how you will. Just don't go blurring lines between those that build beliefs on reason, and those that disdain reason for getting in the way of their beliefs.
 
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So I did that, and something called Drogen Banana came up. You really want to talk about cultural warcrimes?

That's different from what I expected to come up but sounds promising. :p

The finest 54 seconds of Youtube that exist outside of the Darwin Awards channel.

The finest 54 seconds of Youtube in your opinion. :D
 

Minonian

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Should have been another rule of the internet to state that any possible opinion can encountered on the internet, and that in the first instance it will be a completely sincere ;)
The other thing in UK? If they are smart they will make the teletubbies costume more streamlined. If this is what you see as a child this is how you want to looks alike, your heroes determining you. ;)
This is what must be done instead of ban Piglet from Vinnie the Pooh because violates the religious sensitivity of someones...

Another five strand DNA ( Fifth element) and transfiguration to merkaba i guess...
(UFO sect stupidity, around the 2000's back than i still read this kind of crapola, this was possibly the last nail in the coffin to make me have enough all of this kind of absurd .)
 
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Of course you don't see it as indoctrination. ISIS don't see forcing their beliefs on the population as indoctrination either. Nobody who thinks they have all the facts and that everyone who believes something different has fiction believes they are indoctrinating, they believe they are merely educating.



If you want to talk removing concepts such as creationism from science class - that's an obvious one. But your problem there is that I can't think of a single place in Europe that would put creationism on the science curriculum. So why raise it? In case it might happen? But even bringing it up in that context makes you sound like those people claiming that people playing video games will make them turn violent. It's not going to happen.

Also, you've once again implied that religious people are "backward" and believing things analogous to "flat earth" and now "human sacrifice". So, yeah, if someone wants to quietly observe a belief that maybe some non-corporeal entity kicked off the universe then that person might as well be chucking virgins into a volcano.

The horrible tragedy here is that you don't see the irony.

The poster above you, what's Minonian's religious belief? What's mine? What is the religious belief of Adept, Becks, Javert, Boomer, Sunleader, Verminstar, Sleutel, Robin, Alien, Yaffle, TJ, Patrick, Beelb, or any of the other regular off-topic denizens? I've got absolutely no idea about any of them.

There is one single poster I, and for that matter everyone else, knows the religious beliefs of in some detail. Can you guess which poster that is?

Look at this very thread:



Before the end of page two these little gems had been scattered around:







Who is the preacher? You might as well be carrying a copy of "Not Watchtower" and be knocking on doors to discuss why people need to give up religion to enter the kingdom of enlightenment. You've clearly got an axe to grind with religion. The way to deal with that axe is to bury it, not to expect 4.7 billion human beings to change their mind so that you no longer have to think about the possibility that someone doesn't share your views.
I surrender, i'll stop "preaching" (i don't preach) on this thread......for now.
But in my defence, i never called religious people backward, i said religion is backward, and i have repeatedly stated that unlike religious extremists, i do not seek to force people into seeing things my way, i merely advocate emphasis on secularism in politics and education.
If you want to disagree with me, fine, if you want to dislke me, fine, but, please do not mistake my passion for intolerance.
 
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Case in point the rabid loony leftie teacher who reported the kid for having links to UKIP...a LEGAL British party . Utterly insane and a sackable offence IMO that crossed the line of freedom of thought by a country mile.

And you just had to ommit half of the news to make it sound offensive:
"School staff called police when a pupil looked at a UKIP website and an English Defence League video in class."
 
If i was the teacher in this case i'd be very concerned. Probably quite right to report it.

And that's already an overreaction. ^^
You don't "protect" children by trying to keep them away from "dangerous thoughts" at all cost (eh, I'm born in communist eastern europe with a school system that still had corporal punishment).
UK is just pretty weak at self-reflection.
That "English Defense League" is the same cheesehead hooligans that trashed the inner city of Newcastle and made it a "no-go-zone" in the late 90ies. That's not the embodyment of british anything nor is it a "political movement". It's a bunch of no-good cheeseheads with sucky lives.

And yea.. that here:
EDL-Birmingham-march.jpg
 
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I surrender, i'll stop "preaching" (i don't preach) on this thread......for now.
But in my defence, i never called religious people backward, i said religion is backward, and i have repeatedly stated that unlike religious extremists, i do not seek to force people into seeing things my way, i merely advocate emphasis on secularism in politics and education.
If you want to disagree with me, fine, if you want to dislke me, fine, but, please do not mistake my passion for intolerance.

When younger, I felt as you do now.
When young, Muhammed Ali felt that the biggest problem was racism.
When young, Brezinski thought the biggest problem was totalitarianism.

What if we were all correct?

What if they were all originating from the same single source?

We are just beginning to understand ourselves. Why do we form social groups? Why do we behave differently when in a herd? Turn into football hooligans? Mindlessly follow leaders? Chant perjoratives at other groups? Adopt belief systems that ignore evidence?

Maybe the reason is simple. Maybe we have evolved to group up to survive, so we have biological imperatives to copy, to repeat, to follow like a school of fish, or a flight of birds.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22612576
 
I am young myself, but it's difficult, i'm trying to explain to people my view that in a truly secular society with no official religion and no encouragement of religion, we can all live as equals in a free and fair society, if you are religious, then you can still be religious, i'm no extremist or communist, even if i do get carried away with the mockery.
 
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Minonian

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What if we were all correct?
No what if's they are all different sides of the same coin, different manifestations the same "source", the same problem.

The "evil" behind the mask? Always the same, only the face different what's wearing. And this is the point most people missing. Radical fenimists, radical buddhist yes there are radical buddhists too! No difference at all! If you place someone like 6xes at his youth in a Mohammedan nation? Than he became An Islamic terrorist, If you place him to the Third Reich? Than he became An SS officer. If you place him to a communist regime, than he becomes a communist.

That's what he is that's what he destined to became, this is how the wheels working inside his head. Predestination at his worst i guess... His nature are such.
It can be changed? Yes and no. He can also become a fanatic liberal lmbtq, supporter. Or just a docile everyday citizen. I guess it's about what we do with him, because his nature what it is, but how it's surfaces what him become? :)
You can make a sword and plow too from iron right?

Maybe the reason is simple. Maybe we have evolved to group up to survive, so we have biological imperatives to copy, to repeat, to follow like a school of fish, or a flight of birds.

Yes!

Edit; As a final word in this matter?

The real enemy is nt the other, but the monster inside you. But he is also? The greatest power what you can possibly have if you can tame it.[video=youtube;_GBxeMxzT3Y]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GBxeMxzT3Y[/video]
 
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I voted SNP - back in the 2014 Indyref I voted to leave the UK (I'll explain why below) and to remain in the EU as Scotland is a part of the UK that benefits from immigration from the EU itself.

As for why I'm wanting an independent Scotland? I believe that Scotland would be best served by a government specifically dedicated to Scotland's needs & requirements - and if they're not up to task, be able to be removed by the Scottish population. Sadly with Westminster Scotland seldom has much effect on politics across the UK as a whole - with a mere 59 out of 650 seats in the UK parliament we can only affect the government when England can't decide who they want running things. There's also the fact that Scotland has been often used as a testing ground for many unpopular policies that Westminster has wanted to "test out" without affecting their core votes - such as the Poll Tax & storing nuclear submarines a few miles from the largest city in Scotland. (Back during the Indyref process I believe a few places were checked out south of the border for Trident and it was deemed that having nuclear submarines in close proximity to people south of the border was an "unacceptable risk" - if that's the case, why's it an acceptable risk to have them right down the road from Scotland's largest city - and on the busiest shipping lane in Scotland)

While the 2014 Indyref was a result in favour of remaining in the UK (it was a close result - a mere 6% swing would've put things the other way - far from being as "decisive" as the unionists believe) there is still a strong desire for independence in Scotland - and Holyrood has already put in an official Section 30 request for another Independence Referendum which - so far - hasn't been responded to by Westminster. Theresa May's "Now is not the time" speech was 2 weeks before Holyrood voted on the Section 30 request.

I should probably add here that while I do support independence, I'm definitely not an SNP member and never intend to be a member of any political party. I would rather vote based on my personal beliefs, rather than what a bit of paper tells me to.
 
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