General / Off-Topic The coming French elections

[Minonian]

Nobody cares what you 'wont stand for' on the internet. Your English is often confusing, so when there is doubt just relax and calmly explain your point. Or just rage for post after post after post if it makes you feel good.

He understood well enough at the first time or i'm wrong? So you know, i find a little strange to say my English is bad, while he understand well enough to answer it, without error!

Do not be angry. You should not see the Russians everywhere. That's all I wanted to say.

Oh? But there is a small problem with this right?
I'm not seeing a ghost, especially in France, because there is more than enough proof of Russia's involvement starting with Le Pen financing by a russian bank, what he admitted himself!
And if you deny this, than you are at denial and not i'm the one who is is throwing wild accusations around.

 

[TheAntitheist Crusader]

It still doesn't mean that all opposition to Macron comes from Russia.

 

[Minonian]

It still doesn't mean that all opposition to Macron comes from Russia.

Obliviously not. I never said this, but let's be Honest, the events in France opened the way to him. Right?

 

[TheAntitheist Crusader]

Obliviously not. I never said this, but let's be Honest, the events in France opened the way to him. Right?

Well, let's just say that we are both happy that Le Pen didn't win.

 

[Minonian]

Well, let's just say that we are both happy that Le Pen didn't win.

And also? The battles between the R Right right and Left caused both mjor parties downfall, and this also can possibly cause the rise of Le Pen, if there weren't Macron party. In there he was the laughing third.

How this connecting to Le pen, and the Russians and R right? Easy! they starting the gossips and wild accusations whom poisoning the political environment and this resulting battles between the parties, because the other is evil, and corrupt, unreliable. If you scratch the surface in the end of such unfounded news you mostly find a russian r right sympathizer or propaganda portal. Seen enough times in my home, and seen enough time in America, seen as its happens in France.
And also? where the evil corrupt nature of Western politics Cames from? Tin foil hatter and Russian / R right portals, and persons. This is also enough reason to create disappointment toward politics, and with it, the drop of election participation.

 

[Adept]

Well, let's just say that we are both happy that Le Pen didn't win.

She got into the parliament this time, didn't she? I hope it doesn't shield her from criminal prosecution.

 

[Patrick_68000]

In any case France and Russia have always had good relations. One of the main French models (communist and socialist) is in adequacy with certain aspects of Russia since a long time. Here, the Tsar Pierre Le Grand welcomed by the King of France, Louis XV at Versailles in 1717

 

[Minonian]

(Contemptuous look)

Any more russian propaganda right after you tired to discredit me? Oh my dear "innocently victimized friend"?

 

[Patrick_68000]

She got into the parliament this time, didn't she? I hope it doesn't shield her from criminal prosecution.

She enjoys parliamentary immunity. However, I believe that the immunity can be removed by a majority vote of the deputies. It's very rare

 

[Patrick_68000]

(Contemptuous look)

Any more russian propaganda right after you tired to discredit me? Oh my dear "innocently victimized friend"?

???

 

[TheAntitheist Crusader]

(Contemptuous look)

Any more russian propaganda right after you tired to discredit me? Oh my dear "innocently victimized friend"?

I have to admit that i did fid this rather amusing, it sees nobody is "innocent" here on political debate lol.

 

[Minonian]

I have to admit that i did fid this rather amusing, it sees nobody is "innocent" here on political debate lol.

And the radicals are the less innocent because they use every and all dirty trick without regret, alongside with begin forceful if its necessary.
And no, I'm not guilty.

 

[TheAntitheist Crusader]

But to be fair to patrick, just because he is against Macron, doesn't make him a bad person, if i was French i would not be 100% happy with an establishment corporatist, i would have voted for him only to stop Le Pen.

 

[Minonian]

But to be fair to patrick, just because he is against Macron, doesn't make him a bad person, if i was French i would not be 100% happy with an establishment corporatist, i would have voted for him only to stop Le Pen.

Lying cheating and covering an illegal intervention, does makes him a good person?
Discrediting me, trying to look like me as a fool, and madman, "evil" and for the second time trying to turn us against each others makes him a good person? It's acceptable? It's forgivable?

I think not!
All of this, is way over the limit and there must be consequences for it!

 

[Adept]

But to be fair to patrick, just because he is against Macron, doesn't make him a bad person, if i was French i would not be 100% happy with an establishment corporatist, i would have voted for him only to stop Le Pen.

Wait before throwing "establishment" at him at least. France has deep systemic problems, and Macron seems to have been given a mandate to tackle them.

Note how different the new parliament is. A record number of women, and the average age came down a lot. Whatever he turns out to be, it won't be business as usual.

Macron seems on track to re-vitalise the EU with Merkel. To me that seems like excellent news.

 

[TheAntitheist Crusader]

Lying cheating and covering an illegal intervention, does makes him a good person?
Discrediting me, trying to look like me as a fool, and madman, "evil" and for the second time trying to turn us against each others makes him a good person? It's acceptable? It's forgivable?

I think not!
All of this, is way over the limit and there must be consequences for it!

I'm just trying to calm things down. (yes i know, from me that's new ).

Wait before throwing "establishment" at him at least. France has deep systemic problems, and Macron seems to have been given a mandate to tackle them.

Note how different the new parliament is. A record number of women, and the average age came down a lot. Whatever he turns out to be, it won't be business as usual.

Macron seems on track to re-vitalise the EU with Merkel. To me that seems like excellent news.

I will try to give him time, he's already good about climate change and standing up to Trump, i'll say that for him.

 

[Patrick_68000]

I'm just trying to calm things down.

Frankly, I do not understand what's going on. Can you just explain to me the problem ?

 

[Patrick_68000]

But to be fair to patrick, just because he is against Macron, doesn't make him a bad person

Well it seems that I'm not the only one ... 57% of French people abstained from voting. And of the remaining 43% who voted, only 43% voted for Macron. You can see from the table below that only 7 million French out of 47 million registered, voted for Macron

 

[Patrick_68000]

I do not see any problem between France and Russia concerning the presidential and legislative elections. He was received at Versailles with all the honors of the republic. This is extremely rare

 

[Minonian]

I'm just trying to calm things down. (yes i know, from me that's new ).

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