FDev, you just upset a *lot* of people.

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duckofdeath

duckofdeath
I don't see the upsetting part there. It's a massive cheat, using the cheapest materials to get the mods that are extremely hard earnt. They knew the risks when they decided to do it.
The punishments seems to have gone to the ones using the cheat more than once. So, the ones testing it once or twice have probably been spared.
 

MarkAusten

MarkAusten
Uvelius Sång said:
Was it a cheat you had to actively seek and deploy, or could it have been that a Commander "got" the cheat by accident as well?
(I don't know how it worked.)
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There was no way that you could accidentally get this cheat. It involve several non-intuitive actions that you have to carry out and one of them within a very short time period, like in under a second.

Or so I understand from the instructions that were posted.

Okay, so technically it was possible to do this accidentally, but in reality?

No.
 
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Theodrid

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Uvelius Sång said:
Was it a cheat you had to actively seek and deploy, or could it have been that a Commander "got" the cheat by accident as well?
(I don't know how it worked.)
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Once, yes that's a possibility, on more than one module or many times on the same module, no. Look, there is some scope for some collateral damage here, no doubt about it, but, and this is speaking as someone with some pretty good rolls on my Python, if I'm rolled back in error or as part of the cull, so be it. I'd rather that then letting cheating scum off any lighter than this, nuke it Frontier!
 

MarkAusten

MarkAusten
Theodrid said:
Once, yes that's a possibility, on more than one module or many times on the same module, no. Look, there is some scope for some collateral damage here, no doubt about it, but, and this is speaking as someone with some pretty good rolls on my Python, if I'm rolled back in error or as part of the cull, so be it. I'd rather that then letting cheating scum off any lighter than this, nuke it Frontier!
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If you got good rolls with the correct materials for the level, then you are safe. This bug allowed G5 rolls using G1 materials.
 

ITZC0ATL

ITZC0ATL
I would think those that are annoyed at losing their engineered modules due to cheating woudln't be so keen to express that in public, as the mood among the general ED community is that they had to go. FDev could have gone a lot harder than just removing modules, too, and everyone knows it.
 

Phoenix_Dfire

Phoenix_Dfire
Well, what can you add to about this?

Anyone who's done the Cheat, whether a serial cheater or just a once of curious thing, I have no sympathy whatsoever. Hope they're shadow banned as well.

However, for anyone who's had a legitimate 'God Roll', I do have a little sympathy. But Frontier do have to take urgent action on this, if anyone is destroyed by an Engineered Ship, they are automatically assuming that the attacker had used the Exploit. That makes the PVP Community seem worse than they actually are.
 

K-Rose

K-Rose
I don't get it, where's the source for these punishments?

Surely FD would want to publish what punishment was given out. Crime & Punishment works in that there's a deterrent to future exploiters by knowing what happened to those that did exploit.

We learn what jail terms actual criminals get, why aren't we learning what action was taken against these exploiters?
 

MickyG1982

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MarkAusten said:
There was no way that you could accidentally get this cheat. It involve several non-intuitive actions that you have to carry out and one of them within a very short time period, like in under a second.

Or so I understand from the instructions that were posted.

Okay, so technically it was possible to do this accidentally, but in reality?

No.
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Well, technically, the first person that did it did so accidentally...
 

-VR- Max Factor

-VR- Max Factor
Oddisee said:
Don't worry, this will hit them in the wallets for sure. They don't do anything about combat loggers. They don't do anything about people who used cheats in open play PvP (I still see people in open I know 100% used to use shield hacks) but people use an exploit to lessen the garbage engineer grind and they finally decide this is the time to take a stand?

Just about everyone I have talked to is walking away from the game now. This will hurt everyone, including the non-PvP crowd.

Enjoy the emptiness of open play because a large portion of the players who frequent open are quitting.
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My heart bleeds. It really does, excuse my while I try to stop laughing. If the few hundred left teh game that had been cheating I won't miss them and I doubt Fdev will either. Good riddence is what I say, and it will hopefully encourage more people to play, as they know cheater won't get away with what they have been doing.

I am assuming the exploit has been plugged now. Can someone explain to me how it worked as I have no idea myself.
 

verminstar

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verminstar
Uvelius Sång said:
Was it a cheat you had to actively seek and deploy, or could it have been that a Commander "got" the cheat by accident as well?
(I don't know how it worked.)
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One had to intentionally crash the rng system itself so getting them merely by chance was extremely rare. That means that there was undeniable intention to cheat because only certain actions could reproduce it...these actions are not accidental ^
 

Arthur Shappey

Arthur Shappey
In a slightly embarrassing and perverse manner: I'm sort of more interested, now, in how many "righteous" people this exposes, for whom this punishment is not severe enough. People who want blood, want hanging.

It is a sad measure of society when justice and vengeance are confused, and mob tactics rule over measured thought.

Ah well. I didn't have the opportunity to ever use this exploit. But there are tonnes of other exploits still available for us to all get hot under the collar about. It's a complex game, it will have bugs, algorithms will have unexpected consequences. Nerfing and Buffing will continue.

And the real problem is this 'cheat fix' doesn't actually address that Engineering horribly unbalances the whole game still.
 
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