I believe it was reported as a bug in the beta testing but never fixed, just not publicly bantered around until a few weeks ago.
FDev, you just upset a *lot* of people.
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I believe it was reported as a bug in the beta testing but never fixed, just not publicly bantered around until a few weeks ago.
Quite simply for me... You got caught. Take it on the chin and deal with it.
Frontier have taken action and that should be the matter closed.
Oh and.
[h=2]Community Update: Engineer Exploit Action Taken[/h]
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...er-Exploit-Action-Taken?p=5635839#post5635839
Frontier have taken action and that should be the matter closed.
Oh and.
[h=2]Community Update: Engineer Exploit Action Taken[/h]
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...er-Exploit-Action-Taken?p=5635839#post5635839
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I don't even remember which ship that FSD is on anymore.
If you have cheated (rolled g5 mods with g1 materials) You have message in inbox from frontier saying you have been found using this exploit.
HAHAHAHA sure it will. go cry somewhere else or call someone who gives a damn about what exploiters and cheaters think.
Don't come into open assuming all grade 5 modules are gone. They are still there. Lots of 'em. Only ones that have been obtained with grade 5 materials. And they can have identical stats. Why? The materials didn't change the outcome - the bluprints are identical whether someone used grade 1 exploit, or grade 5.
But don't let facts get in the way of a good ramble. It's good that frontier closed an exploit; but people have genuinely misunderstood and wilfully misrepresented what has happened. A module created with grade 1, or grade 5, are still limited to the blueprint; that grade 1 mats made the process to get an extreme roll faster doesn't mean it can't happen legitimately.
Because it can. Oh boy, can it.
But there is no denying it offered a massive time based advantage, as much less effort is required. And that's what frontier has ostensibly addressed; the short circuiting of expected effort for grade 5.
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Still trying to play this down; It allowed the gain of multiple top-tier g5 rolls that could not have been obtained legally except by years worth of rolls per mod, so no it wasn't just a time-sink dodge.
As I'm at work can anyone supply one of the posts from some of the PVP community gloating that Frontier will do nothing on this please. Also any links to mass bleatfest Reddit posts/threads would very much be appreciated.
Cheers
Theo
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...-are-heroes)?p=5586021&viewfull=1#post5586021
If it's true that some exploited modules have slipped through the net it's best just to reset the saves of every cheating CMDR's back to starter sidey 1000 credits and no rep/permits. It's the only way to be sure.
Other than that this is great news.
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No sympathy whatsoever from me towards anyone who's used this exploit and lost all their mods, even if they were legitimate rolls.
You have cheated - now face the consequences. I would say the "punishment" is quite mild actually, all they did is corrected the exploited modules. The actual punishment was accidental loss of legitimate rolls.
That's mild IMHO.
You have cheated - now face the consequences. I would say the "punishment" is quite mild actually, all they did is corrected the exploited modules. The actual punishment was accidental loss of legitimate rolls.
That's mild IMHO.
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You just need to motivate the seagulls. Get the unhinging underway. Then, you can have anything. Anything at all.
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Sorry. Suck it up. You still were handled nicely. In many other games you'd now be buying a new account, after being caught using an exploit. In comparison FD went the soft way, they just removed all potentially exploited components and let you continue playing.
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You sir/madam are a legend in your own underpants/underfrillies
That sounds like the very definition of a time-sink dodge.
Agreed to a extent; FD should certainly make a strong statement that going forward they will seek to punish all exploits. CL is a little harder to determine but I would certainly support strong action against any who did this on a regular basis ( i.e. not accidental once a year drop )
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How many people have you spoken too?
It will not hurt me.
Empty open play is not a problem either.
Enjoy whatever game you move onto next.
So I personally am very very happy. A good firm notice to the playerbase at large that serious exploiting leads to serious consequences.
This was entirely for PvP to gain an advantage and therefore they deserve to loose their advantage. Lots of other developer have even harsher punishments for cheating. Lets mention guildwars where the devs livestreamed a cheaters character being controlled by them, made the character commit suicide and then permanently deleted the account.
Other MMO and multiplayer games have reset accounts entirely of those caught cheating. Then lets not forget Blizzard and their "You cheat, you get banned" policy. And above all Vac and steamguard where being caught cheating may loose you an entire library of games.
Personally I think it's measured. It should be clear to anyone with half a braincell that using the menus in the way that you had to do means the end result is clearly a exploit/cheat. It's like the konami code up up down down left right left right a b. I'd be exceptionally rare for someone to type that in to any console by accident, it has to really be a deliberate.
Removing the mods was a required response and I'm very happy it's being done. It's not nuclear banning them. It's not over the top resetting their saves. It's measured.
This was entirely for PvP to gain an advantage and therefore they deserve to loose their advantage. Lots of other developer have even harsher punishments for cheating. Lets mention guildwars where the devs livestreamed a cheaters character being controlled by them, made the character commit suicide and then permanently deleted the account.
Other MMO and multiplayer games have reset accounts entirely of those caught cheating. Then lets not forget Blizzard and their "You cheat, you get banned" policy. And above all Vac and steamguard where being caught cheating may loose you an entire library of games.
Personally I think it's measured. It should be clear to anyone with half a braincell that using the menus in the way that you had to do means the end result is clearly a exploit/cheat. It's like the konami code up up down down left right left right a b. I'd be exceptionally rare for someone to type that in to any console by accident, it has to really be a deliberate.
Removing the mods was a required response and I'm very happy it's being done. It's not nuclear banning them. It's not over the top resetting their saves. It's measured.
No I am not playing it down, I am correcting a mistaken belief that these modules are impossible to obtain with grade 5 materials. That is patently incorrect. What I have just said is the time perspective is where it's been incredibly unfair; and that's specifically what the developer has just stated and addressed.
I have no problem with corrective actions. But I have a big problem with people peddling garbage. Engineering is purely chance. It's RNG. It's possible to get an insane roll on the first roll. However to get a lot of insane rolls, requires time and the materials. What's pretty clear is that people believe you can get better rolls with grade 1 versus grade 5; which ignores that there are blueprints, with limits.
I have no problem with what frontier has done. Again, read what the Developer has written. I have.
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