Well done FD! That really cheered me up.
FDev, you just upset a *lot* of people.
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I reckon half the cheats are also having a right old giggle at the people who are actually salty over all this. It's brought about more community unity than just about anything lol.
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the only hope we have is the karama system by the looks of it. they probably didn't look at your idea, when i play elite its 90% of the time for pvp, i would get about 5 logger per day. they know about "illegal" loggers. they're smart enough to do something about it. but yet they do nothing. even when you send in video evidence
the only hope we have is the karama system by the looks of it. they probably didn't look at your idea, when i play elite its 90% of the time for pvp, i would get about 5 logger per day. they know about "illegal" loggers. they're smart enough to do something about it. but yet they do nothing. even when you send in video evidence
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Tough!
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given a choice of playing with NO players or playing with cheaters I am afraid I take door number 1 every time. and the majority of posts seem to concur.
btw where are the "Apex" PvPers? usually they are very vocal when it comes to posts about cheaters and what not.. .Nightshady exp was very vocal about his certainty that FD would either be incapable or not dare to punish
Yaffle
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See, I disagree with Cressy on this one.
There are plenty of people that clearly know what they are doing is 'wrong' but they do it anyway.
I oversimplified - even if you know that theft is wrong, which we all do, in order to do it one has to convince oneself, maybe not at a cognisant level, that it's okay for one to do it because...
Having done it, be prepared for the consequences. Same as any other decision we make.
Or did someone reverse engineer the code to find it.
I think hes joking
I think so too.
But I must say I have found the ED community Youtubers silence on this matter rather frustrating.
I am sure they will be covering it now though. [blah]
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I've seen a lot of angry comments supporting this exploit but no compelling arguments to support this type of play. Using any exploit has coincidences. And as such I support FDev in their purge. As an ED player you have the option to play or not. The choice is yours. However how you play is up to FDev and the community that supports them.
So if your too outraged to play on a level playing field, then perhaps you need to move on to Battlefield One or other endevers. To those still spacing, I will see you in the black.
[video=youtube_share;UMrJhn4H4sk]https://youtu.be/UMrJhn4H4sk[/video]
Cheers ...
Chief
So if your too outraged to play on a level playing field, then perhaps you need to move on to Battlefield One or other endevers. To those still spacing, I will see you in the black.
[video=youtube_share;UMrJhn4H4sk]https://youtu.be/UMrJhn4H4sk[/video]
Cheers ...
Chief
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See, I disagree with Cressy on this one.
There are plenty of people that clearly know what they are doing is 'wrong' but they do it anyway.
The opportunity and the motivation are the main things.
It means more that while they know it is wrong they try to construct a functioning rationale that mitigates it, i.e. some form of justifications or blame shifting such as "well, I cheated but it is FDs fault for allowing me to cheat therefore it is ok".
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rootsrat
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The exploit was NOT god rolls, aka the result.
The exploit was using G1 materials for G5 modifications. And you had to do a series of specific actions to achieve that, so it must have been deliberate.
If you have never used the exploit and got god-rolls from legitimate rolls - you're safe.
If you have used the exploit on a given module type, ALL modifications from ALL modules of that type you own were removed.
So, case #1: You have FSD upgraded on 4 ships. You ran out of G5 materials to upgrade the last ship and you have used the exploit to use G1 materials to get G5 upgrade. ALL your FSD upgrades are removed.
Case #2: You have FSD upgraded on 4 ships. You upgraded all of them legitimately, using G5 materials for all the G5 rolls. Nothing will be removed from you.
And like I said it was pretty much impossible to use the exploit in accident.
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Working day in and day out with QAs, I'd say no - it was probably found randomly by several people at around the same time, and at least one of these people shared it on a non-FD forum.
Yeah, I know. I said pretty much this exact thing in a far more succinct manner on the previous page.
Naturally, I'm a computer programmer, we always think in binary.
You may be correct here but I feel that those people who did cheat will always cheat and blaming it on too much RNG or grind or anything else is just trying to avoid the issue.
Cheaters will always cheat.
Nothing to do with anything else. There are plenty of commanders who do not like the RNG or grind but don't cheat.
Saying "the RNG mad me cheat" is nonsense.
rootsrat
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Ah, sorry buddy. I misunderstood your post - thought you're complaining about that! D
+1. You are very wise, sir (or madam). [up]
The issue, and fix has nothing to do with having a good, or god roll, but those modules that have illegitimate rolls.Can someone clarify something to me (i'm sorry i can't read all the 34 pages as i'm supposed to work
I never did the g1 to g5 trick, i have a total of 14 g5 rolls (all types of modules)
Does this mean i can lose g5 rolls on the assumption that i cheated ?
Or FD knows exactly who cheated and they got heavily punished ?
I mean i would be upset if they take my rolls because i did not cheat
If not, then i'm satisfied
thanks
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It wont be noticed. The vast majority of that community will stay and nothing will really change. Most of the "I am quiting posts" are just idle threats. So until there is a C&P with tracking system in place, we will hardly notice a change even after the roll backs.
That is why I am fine with any form of punishment, because in the long run it will have little effect on the game universe as a whole. However it will set the precedence that cheating will not be tolerated. That is how it should be and that is fine by me. It hardly matters what kind of punishment is doled out, its just the fact that it happened is important.
I guess what I am saying is the punishment will have little in the way of an in game player base reduction. Even if all the known griefers left it would not be of consequence to the rest of the community. The population of players in the game would hardly change, but the precedence of making cheaters pay for what they have done will be the important part.
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Also I dont scream in opposition of PVP. I point out the fact that there is no meaningful PVP in this game and that it will never have any. The game is not designed around PVP and to make it PVP oriented, they would have to kill everything they have done and start over. CQC is the only real combat PVP in this game and every single other current PVP oriented game will be far superior. I know I play those games.
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