Nah, my only gripe is that the derpy modules are possible at all.
FDev, you just upset a *lot* of people.
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Nah, my only gripe is that the derpy modules are possible at all.
Zero.
But it will be interesting to see how he reports this.
Get a move on OA, we're all waiting for you...
Not really. The god-rolls are statistically difficult to get since they would requires a large number of rolls. Without the bug it is unlikely that very may would be a able to get such perfectly modded ships. Don't forget that it was not just one module, but all of them that were tweaked this way.
So, yes, some commanders will get god-rolls, but not many in the game and certainly not entire player groups.
You missed the point mate. Statistically it might be unlikely, but it is possible. Some of these modules are upto 140% more efficient than the average "good" G5 roll.
That's catastrophically unbalanced. Whether or not they're rare is irrelevant, the fact is it can happen.
That is because there is no reliable way to determine if a combat log was intentional or not. Yes you can guess, you can also infer from statistics and situation but you certainly cannot automatically determine this accurately.
At least not yet.
Whilst there is enough doubt about detecting combat logging FD, in my opinion, are entirely correct in not putting something in the game to "fix" it.
Maybe that will change in future but for now you and others will just have to live with it and try not to let it bother you too much.
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Exactly as FD stated they would. If you have two G5 Dirty drives and one was rolled via exploit both mods would be erased. Very soft punishment if you go by the amount of players calling for an shadow ban of the players.
IMHO its not much of a punishment. More like a correction with minor collateral damage
I'm guessing they don't want to upset the poor players who "just wanted to see what they we're talking about"...
Yeah, that is pretty juicy. The 13th rank lower than SDC or CODE in my books (SDC are alright really, just like stirring people up.) So that level of hubris and arrogance is quite the schadenfreude enducing show.
The ramifications of this exploit can be huge...being practically invincible has given the offenders opportunity to effect the BGS with impunity...However the nature of the beast is pvp...ganking with impunity...what message does this deliver to the community? ...To the new players ? ..it's not enough just to say 'Git Gud ' that's just crass...it's not ok to say that if you play in open you can expect to be ganked...Yeah that's great community spirit.
A small minority are preying on the weak or inexperienced...FDev put in community events like CG's and guess what it's a magnet for gankers ...what does FDev do ...nothing ...They simply say it's dangerous when in fact the likes of these groups are exploiting FDev...sticking middle fingers up to the player base...The fact that these same people used exploits to gain an unfair advantage and then these same players go gank noobs is no less than disgusting. The victims is this are the players who have been ganked , The factions that have been undermined .FDev says the exploit is not in the spirit of the game...neither is ganking.
A simple fix without ruining things would be to extend the no fire zone at CG's stations as in disable weapons to the jump in point of the station ..at least then it will only be the suicide sideys to contend with...which is a lot more controllable.
Whilst I applaud this action, it's a slap on the wrist...it does nothing to the offenders
The punishment will be laughed at...didn't go far enough in my opinion
A small minority are preying on the weak or inexperienced...FDev put in community events like CG's and guess what it's a magnet for gankers ...what does FDev do ...nothing ...They simply say it's dangerous when in fact the likes of these groups are exploiting FDev...sticking middle fingers up to the player base...The fact that these same people used exploits to gain an unfair advantage and then these same players go gank noobs is no less than disgusting. The victims is this are the players who have been ganked , The factions that have been undermined .FDev says the exploit is not in the spirit of the game...neither is ganking.
A simple fix without ruining things would be to extend the no fire zone at CG's stations as in disable weapons to the jump in point of the station ..at least then it will only be the suicide sideys to contend with...which is a lot more controllable.
Whilst I applaud this action, it's a slap on the wrist...it does nothing to the offenders
The punishment will be laughed at...didn't go far enough in my opinion
No they're not. I've spoken to the folks effected. I know they're factual.
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Er, wouldn't that mean that they automatically had those three?
Indeed they are but not with G1 level materials.
Re-read FDev's statement a bit closer, and you'll see that it's intentional. It's called punishment.
I never suggested it wasn't, I was just responding to someone asking the question. What is with these forums and people having conversations occur in their heads, and then projecting them onto the forums?
...doesn't change the fact that a serously unbalanced, overkill, module is possible. It's broken.
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It gave me happy thoughts, but I don't really think any cheater is really "upset" about punishment.
Soooooo, people that cheated, also had legitimately rolled modules, and are complaining that their god rolls are not the only ones that are getting purged?
I'd have thought that any account (forget actual god rolled items) would have all their engineered items sent straight to jail, and do not collect $200 passing GO.
Sounds like this is too harsh for the cheaters?
I know we live in a world where human rights and lawsuits suggest an all manner of balmy get out clauses... perhaps similar to: one can buy a hot chocolate and sue the place if you burned yourself because the hot chocolate was hot...
..but asking fdev to leave 'legitimate' good rolls alone on accounts that god roll hacked modules.. That's a bit cheeky.
I'd have thought that any account (forget actual god rolled items) would have all their engineered items sent straight to jail, and do not collect $200 passing GO.
Sounds like this is too harsh for the cheaters?
I know we live in a world where human rights and lawsuits suggest an all manner of balmy get out clauses... perhaps similar to: one can buy a hot chocolate and sue the place if you burned yourself because the hot chocolate was hot...
..but asking fdev to leave 'legitimate' good rolls alone on accounts that god roll hacked modules.. That's a bit cheeky.
I confirm.
On my second account I tried the cheat on one DD Thruster and got all my G5 Thrusters reduced to stock. 14 legit, 1 cheated, all. (I'm OK with that, no problems. Couldn't resist the itch.). All other modules stayed upgraded.
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So what. Then you have one single module of your ship that performs way above average - that won't make a god-mode ship alone.
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