Alien archeology and other mysteries: Thread 10 - The Canonn

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So who wants to help m with any high res images of both the activ thargoid vessels and the crash site ones?? I am currently in the proccess of lookin over certain images.

It also seems my theory on these being a differen hive of thargoids than the crashed Vessels might b correct however i need more clear images to know for sure before i post my findings.

However remember check the thorax markings and the legs "Some are large, blue-green to grey in colour.., Others are black, have fewer leg joints" I ok out the size referece in regards to humans due to 1. we dont know if they were looking at them or them sitting in their ships in the older elites and 2 because from what iv seen so far the crashed ship and the active have alot of differences both in color (which could be corrosion from being there years i know) but most importently markings!

Also this would mean the crashed vessel isnt missing any limbs and would show it as being oresian origin due to the older game statements about fewer leg joints
 
This is my recent theory as well. Not only are they mineral extractors or refineries, but also Thatgoid atmospheric processors. I believe they can be activated remotely to prepare certain areas for their arrival. As seen in the unknown trailer, there appears to be an overgrown Barnacle in the distance. My theory is that as the Barnacle processes the atmosphere for terraforming, it grows larger and larger (due to its biological composition)


No sorry, just a mineral extraction organism. long been known that thargoids strip planets of their metallic resources. i said this from the very start about these barnacles and got poo poo'd by canonn because barnacles were not connected to thargoids. kinda sad when the truth comes out and those skeptics get blown out of the water. Anyway back to sitting on the sidelines and watching the drama unfold, everything so far i have predicted has come true. i know where these critters come from, what their intentions are and what the end game will be. So am i telling anyone here, nah no one would believe me if i did and end up calling me a troll. So, enjoy.
 
No sorry, just a mineral extraction organism. long been known that thargoids strip planets of their metallic resources. i said this from the very start about these barnacles and got poo poo'd by canonn because barnacles were not connected to thargoids. kinda sad when the truth comes out and those skeptics get blown out of the water. Anyway back to sitting on the sidelines and watching the drama unfold, everything so far i have predicted has come true. i know where these critters come from, what their intentions are and what the end game will be. So am i telling anyone here, nah no one would believe me if i did and end up calling me a troll. So, enjoy.

Well, if you were right then congrats on being right. Feels good, don't it?

But the same could be said of anyone about anything speculative they've ever said at any point - speculation is nothing more than words, right?

Until you have an actual observable, testable link, it's no better than superstition, or a celestial teapot.

The morse theorists were also poo-pood until they were proven right, and then they were, and still are, lauded.

The difference is they stuck around and didn't take umbrage about being met with scepticism.

That's what it's all about. I'm sorry you don't feel that way.
 
You're making Canonn sound like one of those shady Dark Wheel, INARA or Wreken Construction type powerful secret corporations.
And when they finally breeched the COL 70 sector, it turned out to be a secret branch of Canonn under a false name all along!!!

Well I kind of meant because they are Scienctific and Neutral and not really political the Thargoids will hopefully be their pals
 
No sorry, just a mineral extraction organism. long been known that thargoids strip planets of their metallic resources. i said this from the very start about these barnacles and got poo poo'd by canonn because barnacles were not connected to thargoids. kinda sad when the truth comes out and those skeptics get blown out of the water. Anyway back to sitting on the sidelines and watching the drama unfold, everything so far i have predicted has come true. i know where these critters come from, what their intentions are and what the end game will be. So am i telling anyone here, nah no one would believe me if i did and end up calling me a troll. So, enjoy.

I'm surprised people called you a Troll, I write all kinds of stuff and nobody says I'm Trolling.

Everything I write I put in the form of a theory though based on what we know, Its never a fact until its proven though. Theories do help in knowing what to look out for etc and how to find the evidence, you provide a theory then either confirm or eliminate it.
 
No calling to unite pilots? No huge scout party preparing? No massive reveal about what is already known about thargoids? No superWeapon? No mention of the current unknown ship expert Palin?

Something fishy is going on, and informations are being held.

I am certain this ties in some way to the Rift Mystery. Someone is behind the Fed and Imps pulling the strings. There is hidden info on the imperial database that we cannot find. Salome did, she knew what was out there, but she is dead. They knew what was out there, they know what is coming. That is why they sent out the Zurara and the whole Dynasty conspiracy is where that mystery has left off.

So yes, something fishy is going on.


Micheal Brookes seems a little bit silent at the moment, isn't he? Are you there sir?)

MB is gone, that is why he is silent. You may still see him playing, but you won't get any information out of him due to the NDA, and he will not be privy to any upcoming new content. Now we wait to meet our new Exec Producer.

source: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/358889-A-big-thanks-to-you-all!

Don't forget to feed your Tharmagoitchi.

this made me laugh, +rep

It better not be Thargoidémon

also gave me a chuckle, +rep

They aren't going to please everyone. Whatever happens there will be hot, salty tears from some segment of the fanbase.

But this touches on why I think we're heading into a war whether we like it or not. One of the most common complaints about the game is the surprising lack of danger for a game called "...Dangerous". War with the thargoids could rectify that. Another complaint is that there is a "lack of content". One answer to that would be to introduce a story that players can feel involved in (between lost colonies and generation ships and the Formidine Rift and Galnet there is now plenty of story players can read about but most players still don't seem to feel involved with those stories). Stories need conflict. So again, war with thargoids could be an answer. Peaceful interactions with thargoids are not likely to resolve those criticisms: why would trading/scanning/running missions for thargoids be any more interesting than it already is with humans? Perhaps FDev could make it work but it would be harder and more work than a war.

Of course none of that requires total war with all of humanity. It looks to me like we might end up with a thargoid war with the Federation, the Empire neutral, and perhaps the Alliance allied with the 'goids. Or it could be war between the Feds and the Empire triggered by the appearance of the thargoids. But personally I don't find either of those options as interesting as an all out war for survival. If the war is as easy to avoid as the conflicts in powerplay or the BGS then it'll be disappointing, IMO. The game needs real bogeyman; something ... dangerous.

Just because something says Dangerous does not mean it has to be. I work with things labeled Dangerous all day and they are really only Dangerous when they are mishandled. Such is the nature of chemicals. Operating a vehicle is Dangerous, but we are not max maxing on the way to and from work. While i do agree we are headed for war for various reasons, it does not mean we cannot eventually have peace, or establish mutually beneficial relations with the hive mind.

Or for converting elements found in ore to make something living, perhaps; (because they're found on planets without an atmosphere ATM) yeah that's an idea a few people have said, +1

Minor correction, though - 'terraforming' isn't the right terminology, even if we know what it means - unless that's how Earth started! :eek:

Thargoforming then?

The Doctor can be anything he want to be.

When Dr. Arcanonn's body dies does a new one come in from an alternate dimension?

No sorry, just a mineral extraction organism. long been known that thargoids strip planets of their metallic resources. i said this from the very start about these barnacles and got poo poo'd by canonn because barnacles were not connected to thargoids. kinda sad when the truth comes out and those skeptics get blown out of the water. Anyway back to sitting on the sidelines and watching the drama unfold, everything so far i have predicted has come true. i know where these critters come from, what their intentions are and what the end game will be. So am i telling anyone here, nah no one would believe me if i did and end up calling me a troll. So, enjoy.

This statement in and of itself makes you a troll. If you know what is going to happen, formulate a valid scientific theory, back it up with evidence, and let people try to prove or disprove it. That sounds much better then whining on the forums about how nobody believes you and you were the first.
 
I'm surprised people called you a Troll, I write all kinds of stuff and nobody says I'm Trolling.

Everything I write I put in the form of a theory though based on what we know, Its never a fact until its proven though. Theories do help in knowing what to look out for etc and how to find the evidence, you provide a theory then either confirm or eliminate it.


*coughs* Hypothesis first, then proof and then it becomes a theory.. ;) :D
 
No sorry, just a mineral extraction organism. long been known that thargoids strip planets of their metallic resources. i said this from the very start about these barnacles and got poo poo'd by canonn because barnacles were not connected to thargoids. kinda sad when the truth comes out and those skeptics get blown out of the water. Anyway back to sitting on the sidelines and watching the drama unfold, everything so far i have predicted has come true. i know where these critters come from, what their intentions are and what the end game will be. So am i telling anyone here, nah no one would believe me if i did and end up calling me a troll. So, enjoy.

I've got no axe to grind in this so I'm definitely interested in hearing your theories!

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I think it has been rather obvious that the barnacles extract minerals/ore from the sub-surface and form the MA nodes. Why is the question and there are a fair few concepts here about that. The flower ships are withdrawing something from the barnacles and I don't see them/believe they are 'giving' anything to the barnacles. We think there will be underground structures, based on video evidence and it seems plausible to conclude they are alien...not committing to Thargoid... structures. But they probably are :) There are a lot of moving parts still to be defined.

I think it is just as likely that the barnacles could be 'mining' the sub-surface and growing underground, creating these structures. The MA's are a bi-product, and perhaps not just an unlikely beneficial entity, but an engineered one. What if the barnacles are actually a nursery... creating underground hives/incubators and the larger yellow-ish orbs that go up from them to the flower ships are eggs/young? Circumstantial evidence makes all of this, granted with many other concepts, plausible.

I think we'll find a lot of parts and pieces of various ideas come to be fact while not everything will fit. But Thargoid ships and barnacles are not just coincidentally connected.
 
So Thargoid leader sends UA's to merope etc to check on barnacles for re-arm and re-fuel.
Barnacles ready.....
Thargoid leader sends UP to Thargoid scouts and fighters on local ammonia worlds "PING" then points them to merope and surrounding areas to gather from barnacles.

Seems like the above is what has happened....could be wrong however if correct why? what is the next step? and is it for us or something else?
Maybe we arnt the target, maybe just maybe the Thargoids are going to help defend us from this so called "something far more dangerous than Thargoids" making its way from the rift direction.

I mean it is one of the first stops between us and the rift, why would targoids pinpoint merope first? why not witch head or cali also? Their capabilitys of their ships "If its an assault on humanity" wouldn't need to take a detour to merope would it? also they have been somewhat placid with us (apart from feds who are to anything they deem a treat).
 
Going from the various cryptic comments from Devs and DB, along the lines of Aliens acting in a hard to understand / grasp / etc sort of way, I'm still not sold on the UA /UP being Thargoid or at least not in anyway we currently assume. I'm will to bet that they have a plan and we are irrelevant to that plan.
 
Also, I'm not sure that Thargoids are going to be the big story of 2.4.

In line with *part* of Davanix's post above (because I think UAs are human for the benefit of thread-dippers), I agree it's entirely possible that perhaps Thargs aren't directly hostile to us because they have bigger fish to fry.

As in, the kind of Alien about which we know nothing because there is no precedent from '84 - 'Lions and tigers and bears'.
 
Also, I'm not sure that Thargoids are going to be the big story of 2.4.

In line with *part* of Davanix's post above (because I think UAs are human for the benefit of thread-dippers), I agree it's entirely possible that perhaps Thargs aren't directly hostile to us because they have bigger fish to fry.

As in, the kind of Alien about which we know nothing because there is no precedent from '84 - 'Lions and tigers and bears'.

Exactly, tbh if they where here to wipe humanity out they would have started already and from much closer to home, going to Pleiades first seems odd, yes i know its a nebula which they seem to like (speculation if the barnys really are theirs) however witch head is closer to their so called shown enemys the feds......it just seems they are trying to reach something else or for different reasons, maybe they gassed out their own nebula (yes gas pun lol) and Pleiades is the only one left close, which means they might need barnys to survive (another maybe theory).

Maybe even there is Guardians left and these are the sentient AI (AI doesn't have to be machine but more of a cerebral implant into biological entity which gave thargs the hive mindset from the original AI host) what killed them to which they are moving in for the final blow? I mean they introduced Guardians in between all this and Braben smirked every time he said "extinct" but not once actually confirmed it ingame.

So many theory's and i have alot more but i just dont want the game to lead to constant pew pew. the above lines would make for both pew pew however leave room for interesting storylines and possible human - alien alliances for some really cool tech.
 
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