Alien archeology and other mysteries: Thread 10 - The Canonn

[Suteksio]

What we see is not the structure itself, just 1 or 2 million years of dust over it. In some places you can see parts of the site not covered by dust and it looks metallic or made from other advanced material/alloy. One of my dreams regarding the Guardians is finding a fully functional site, or maybe not functional, but not covered by dust so we can have a good look at it and figure out what was the real purpose of those sites.

We pilot multimillion ships but we dont have a shovel!

 

[Harry Kruth]

Regarding the worn state of the Guardian ruins, I have another question... These where very advanced people. Did they not like building with superior construction materials... like metals? We do it? I can understand it would be very quick, and make use of the materials there, but if you are very advanced, could you not even do a bit of smelting?

Well I think the ruins would be around one or two million years old, so there's that..



edit, slightly ninja'd.

 

[Clobbertime]

Possibly, but based on the accords from the Phonetic Wars of 2682-2793 it's entirely possible that Cete is:

1. a thing made or used for sitting on, such as a chair or stool.
   synonyms: chair, bench, stool, settle, stall; More
2. a person's buttocks.

Interesting historical note, the wars were started by a minor faction named the Grammer Notzy's because people kept pointing out the irony of their name.

Still, it's possible that Cete refers to any aquatic mammal, for instance whale or dolphin as in cetacean.

It could also be a misspelling of SETI, the acronym for the Search for Extra Terrestrial Intelligence program. The original name could have been lost through the centuries or just because Melville had some screws loose.

 

[Ecthelion]

UA confirmed to be Thargoid?

Seems like at least the UA and possibly the UP are confirmed to be Thargoid. Start watching at 3 mins:

[video]https://www.twitch.tv/videos/154072893[/video]

 

[Thatchinho]

Not looked into the locations and ruins recently. Cant remember any being on a ruin planet with volcanism . There are many more guardian systems in the list now since i last looked properly.

I suspect though you probably are right, also a very good observation if it is .

Some other part of the guardian network perhaps? monoliths being the ruins interfaces, and the tree's are the server network?

Thargoids use barnacles or so it appears to collect material or energy from the planet.

Could be the tree's served the same purpose to the guardians.. Some sort of mining or energy collectors?

The braintrees I found recently were on a body with Major Water Geysers and the system didn't have any ruins, so that aligns with MadRaptor's observations.

It also seems to fit the general ruins body criteria (if I'm remembering them correctly). T = 215K, G = 0.07, Tidally locked. It's an Icy Body though. Don't know if any ruins have been found on Icy Bodies.

They were in ejecta craters IIRC so again in line with what others are saying. I checked two craters and found braintree sites in both.

I'd agree with the braintrees being effectively a mining / resource gathering tool. Very easy collecting rare & very rare materials from a braintree site compared to collecting them on a normal body.

 

[CMDR MadRaptor]

The braintrees I found recently were on a body with Major Water Geysers and the system didn't have any ruins, so that aligns with MadRaptor's observations.

It also seems to fit the general ruins body criteria (if I'm remembering them correctly). T = 215K, G = 0.07, Tidally locked. It's an Icy Body though. Don't know if any ruins have been found on Icy Bodies.

They were in ejecta craters IIRC so again in line with what others are saying. I checked two craters and found braintree sites in both.

I'd agree with the braintrees being effectively a mining / resource gathering tool. Very easy collecting rare & very rare materials from a braintree site compared to collecting them on a normal body.

The fungal trees were found on a ICY body? That is the first one I've heard appearing on that particular body type.

 

[Thatchinho]

Request if possible, and some have done it already, but, for all the known Fungal Tree sites you and others might have found in this thread "Would you kindly" enter the system/body, coordinates and planet type here for me. We have a few but I feel we are missing quite a bit:


Submissions here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1X1o-CZEpf5ziX8QJoFTylCHLLZ5d2eLN7o7csX0yNQM/edit#gid=0

and/or just on the main thread: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...Fumarole-Location-Catalog-and-Data-Collection

Thank You kindly

I know Pan is already aware of these so this is really for anybody else.

Nice one. Have added the ones I found to the spreadsheet!

 

[Ecthelion]

The braintrees I found recently were on a body with Major Water Geysers and the system didn't have any ruins, so that aligns with MadRaptor's observations.

It also seems to fit the general ruins body criteria (if I'm remembering them correctly). T = 215K, G = 0.07, Tidally locked. It's an Icy Body though. Don't know if any ruins have been found on Icy Bodies.

They were in ejecta craters IIRC so again in line with what others are saying. I checked two craters and found braintree sites in both.

I'd agree with the braintrees being effectively a mining / resource gathering tool. Very easy collecting rare & very rare materials from a braintree site compared to collecting them on a normal body.

What's the system name and planet/body? Also - there's been found plenty of brain trees in system without ruins - but always close to Guardian "space" or ruins.

 

[Thatchinho]

The fungal trees were found on a ICY body? That is the first one I've heard appearing on that particular body type.

Yep! Also, just checked screenshots and it was normal craters not ejecta craters:

Spoiler

And just for completeness as it's not in the screenshot, the other mats are:

Molybdenum (0.9%)
Tin (0.9%)
Ruthenium (0.9%)

 

[Thatchinho]

What's the system name and planet/body? Also - there's been found plenty of brain trees in system without ruins - but always close to Guardian "space" or ruins.

It's Col 173 Sector SI-I b26-8 A 3A (at -30.14, 74.03 & -45.84, -139.63) It's near to ruins systems. Found it while doing loops around Regor Sector looking for ruins.

 

[CMDR MadRaptor]

Yep! Also, just checked screenshots and it was normal craters not ejecta craters:

Spoiler

http://i.imgur.com/eWGd2b7.jpg

And just for completeness as it's not in the screenshot, the other mats are:

Molybdenum (0.9%)
Tin (0.9%)
Ruthenium (0.9%)

Nice job! One thing though, with Icy bodies, I've always found it hard to determine if it's an ejecta crater or not, for some reason they aren't as clear as with other bodies. Good way to tell is to check the other craters around the planet. If, however, it is just a regular crater then perhaps searching regular craters on planets with already found sites and clearly noticeable ejecta craters might produce something.

 

[Saool]

New semi-random thought. The logo (birthmark?) on the Barnacles: Insects don't see red and other low frequency colours, but they do see Ultra-violet and other high frequency 'colours'. I've been looking to see how Barnard's loop might look with light shifted towards the higher frequencies with not too much joy, other than to say I think it really is just a half loop and given it is mostly red, they might not see it at all! (That said, when was the last time you stepped outside at night, looked up and said 'oh look, Barnard's loop'). But it might be interesting to look at other places in the galaxy from a high frequency point of view.

 

[Jmanis]

Today CMDR Synjorai of Canonn discovered Professor Melville's mega ship in Col 173 Sector LJ-F C12-0!

The mega ship's name is The Cete.

There's been found several ruins in the system as well - counting 5 at the time of posting. Seems like this might have been part of the original way to find the ruins.

Link to the sites found - thanks to CMDR Dave Weyland for the screens: http://imgur.com/a/JEmuI

Galnet article earlier this year: https://community.elitedangerous.com/en/galnet/uid/589db33015ac1c292f68b825

Here's screens of the logs:

Spoiler

https://i.imgur.com/SUaYNnG.jpg

A short video:

Spoiler

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0M1_ccNvDII

Awesome stuff

I'd be lying if I said this didn't give me the irrits slightly, but then again we probably found the ruins way earlier than expected.

We saw some of those transmissions earlier in galnet, *before* megaships were in the game, as a hint to find more ruins, and I know people went looking for the ship during that period. So it's pretty obviously backdated.

The irrits it gives me is, I wonder if any other articles/content (e.g the weird science in the old worlds) have been put in after the fact.

 

[PanPiper.]

Rocky ice planets can have tree's ..

Ice worlds confirmed nice..

They are still ejecta craters though!... Ice worlds and rocky ice worlds have different looking ejecta craters.. take closer look. round but shallow area,, hard to see, but they do have ejecta lines.
2nd ejecta to the right side also. most likely more, since tree planets have unusually more ejecta craters than non tree planets.

Temp range was right for tree's , volcanism there, ejecta crater there..

 

[CMDR MadRaptor]

Rocky ice planets can have tree's ..

Ice worlds confirmed nice..

They are still ejecta craters though!... Ice worlds and rocky ice worlds have different looking ejecta craters.. take closer look. round but shallow area,, hard to see, but they do have ejecta lines.
2nd ejecta to the right side also. most likely more, since tree planets have unusually more ejecta craters than non tree planets.

Temp range was right for tree's , volcanism there, ejecta crater there..
http://i.imgur.com/tysvLU6l.jpg

Right, it's nice to no Icy's get some love. Haha, and yeah, that's what I've always thought that Icy ones had eject craters but that they were just sometimes difficult to see.

Edit: Just my volcanic mind working here but those 2 canyons just above the more oval like circled crater look like good spots to find some geysers or fumaroles. The canyon at the very top edge, next to the mountains and then the first well defined canyon just below those hill mountain things.

 

[Starke Hathaway]

New semi-random thought. The logo (birthmark?) on the Barnacles: Insects don't see red and other low frequency colours, but they do see Ultra-violet and other high frequency 'colours'. I've been looking to see how Barnard's loop might look with light shifted towards the higher frequencies with not too much joy, other than to say I think it really is just a half loop and given it is mostly red, they might not see it at all! (That said, when was the last time you stepped outside at night, looked up and said 'oh look, Barnard's loop'). But it might be interesting to look at other places in the galaxy from a high frequency point of view.

The thing that's always confused me about the Barnard's Loop theory of the barnacle birthmarks is why an alien race would mark their creations with a representation of Barnard's Loop as seen from Earth.

 

[Ecthelion]

Right, it's nice to no Icy's get some love. Haha, and yeah, that's what I've always thought that Icy ones had eject craters but that they were just sometimes difficult to see.

Edit: Just my volcanic mind working here but those 2 canyons just above the more oval like circled crater look like good spots to find some geysers or fumaroles. The canyon at the very top edge, next to the mountains and then the first well defined canyon just below those hill mountain things.

I was just there to confirm the trees - they are in ejecta craters. Easier to see the ejecta lines when in the ship and not in system/surface map.

 

[Thatchinho]

Rocky ice planets can have tree's ..

Ice worlds confirmed nice..

They are still ejecta craters though!... Ice worlds and rocky ice worlds have different looking ejecta craters.. take closer look. round but shallow area,, hard to see, but they do have ejecta lines.
2nd ejecta to the right side also. most likely more, since tree planets have unusually more ejecta craters than non tree planets.

Temp range was right for tree's , volcanism there, ejecta crater there..
http://i.imgur.com/tysvLU6l.jpg

Fair do's. Can't see the ejecta lines myself, but happy to take your word on it!

IIRC the second ejecta crater you've circled is the other one where I found braintrees.

 

[Harry Kruth]

Seems like at least the UA and possibly the UP are confirmed to be Thargoid. Start watching at 3 mins:

[video]https://www.twitch.tv/videos/154072893[/url]

Wow. So much information. How very un-FDev-like
So many theories shot down in flames..

 

[Factabulous]

Wow. So much information. How very un-FDev-like
So many theories shot down in flames..

Any chance of a summary? I gave up after 5 minutes of hyperbole about how awesome the aliens are going to be (though at least from 05:00 they switch the microphone on....)