Emphasis on "YOUR".
The problem with the new C&P improvements
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Emphasis on "YOUR".
I don't feel it should be changed just to make 'duelling' slightly easier; it's not a huge burden to arrange the duel next door and removing the ability to toggle it @ will would remove some possible underhand open play shenanigans which I feel add ,not detract from the whole.
There is no speculation, all of what I'm explaining is already a reality and is already happening. The only reason why there wasn't that much complaining yet is because the C&P was weak until now.
This is not a "Open shennannigan", this is abuse of a hole in the game mechanics.
I don't think there's anything wrong with speculation, I agree the 'glass half empty' attitude is a little tiresome, but I have bad days too so I try to look past that.
Because some player groups insist on steering FD instead of giving good, constructive feedback on all facts. Instead all what is done is everything is viewed 'we will exploit this and this is why it won't work' lenses.
That's also reason why I give zero nuts about what they are going on about.
Also it seems none of them gives nuts about in-game PvP. All their care about is 'agreed PvP'.
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The confusion is understandable, I've only been defending the (sometimes borderline indefensible) actions of various unsavoury groups in Open in the name of depth, freedom of choice and not neutering what little emergent gameplay and multiplayer drama the game allows for two years and a half now, on top of being a pirate and playing almost exclusively in open
It's not 'abusing mechanics' its lying in game about not calling the cops, which I would call 'underhand rat roleplay'.
vast majority of players I olay with and fought all have fuel scoops and standard fuel tanks.
I'm not a massive fan of min/maxing, anything that reduces the number of available slots for armour etc is okay by me.
You guys wouldn't happen to be Xbox players, would you?
Because you're on XBOX. You're an outsider.
Also hulltanks can't carry fuel scoops, and you can't force them to because it'd cripple them.
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Simple, elegant, works with RP/Lore ... I LOVE IT!
If Frontier combine your suggestion with the OP's suggestion of other Cmdrs being able to see whether RC is off or on within the basic scan, this is a problem solved.
Hmm. Adapt or quit maybe? Rather than thinking about reasons why you can't do something, find a way to achieve your aim. You are good at playing the system, do it here
And reduces depth & choice. I'd rather have the dilemma of not knowing.
Hmm. Adapt or quit maybe? Rather than thinking about reasons why you can't do something, find a way to achieve your aim. You are good at playing the system, do it here
As said, that's not how it works. You obviously have no experience and knowledge at all with what you're talking about.
Wow.. the anger in this thread is strong with the 'CG is for PvP' crowd
Top tip... this game was never about indiscriminately killing other players. Never. Legitimate bounty hunting, mutually agreed duels and piracy (preferably without ship destruction) are all good uses for PvP.
Not 'I wanna kill people.. so I will. Because duh, Dangerous!' - The only people who decided that's what it is all about are those who decided that's what it is. Which it isn't.
If someone has a nice juicy bounty, they're fair game, because THAT'S WHAT BOUNTIES ARE FOR. If I don't have a bounty, and I'm not carrying anything of interest, and I'm not PP flagged, and I'm not waving an Imperial flag from the back of my Cutter... then you have absolutely no legitimate reason to attack me.
Yet the same people who are (predictably) complaining about the new changes, would have us believe that Open = PvP.
I sorely hope the new C&P changes punish those who would attack me for no reason whatsoever get hit very, very hard.
Oh and I heard the ridiculous argument that Hutton Truckers are a minority, so why are they not being targeted for having their game ruined?
Not sure I remember a Hutton Trucker ganking someone. Unless they got in their way I suppose...
Grow up, adapt, or go play CoD - that's more your gamestyle.
Top tip... this game was never about indiscriminately killing other players. Never. Legitimate bounty hunting, mutually agreed duels and piracy (preferably without ship destruction) are all good uses for PvP.
Not 'I wanna kill people.. so I will. Because duh, Dangerous!' - The only people who decided that's what it is all about are those who decided that's what it is. Which it isn't.
If someone has a nice juicy bounty, they're fair game, because THAT'S WHAT BOUNTIES ARE FOR. If I don't have a bounty, and I'm not carrying anything of interest, and I'm not PP flagged, and I'm not waving an Imperial flag from the back of my Cutter... then you have absolutely no legitimate reason to attack me.
Yet the same people who are (predictably) complaining about the new changes, would have us believe that Open = PvP.
I sorely hope the new C&P changes punish those who would attack me for no reason whatsoever get hit very, very hard.
Oh and I heard the ridiculous argument that Hutton Truckers are a minority, so why are they not being targeted for having their game ruined?
Not sure I remember a Hutton Trucker ganking someone. Unless they got in their way I suppose...
Grow up, adapt, or go play CoD - that's more your gamestyle.
As much as I usually respect your opinion silver I still say no. I want the ability to lie in a duel; surely that adds more possibilities/tension then not being able to? Do I trust this dude enough to duel him or will it cost me dearly if he cons me, could lead to some career long rivalries and disputes. But maybe that's just me.
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You are guessing
I only play in open, I am one of the guys going through the CG blockade. You have never caught me
Wow.. the anger in this thread is strong with the 'CG is for PvP' crowd
Top tip... this game was never about indiscriminately killing other players. Never. Legitimate bounty hunting, mutually agreed duels and piracy (preferably without ship destruction) are all good uses for PvP.
Not 'I wanna kill people.. so I will. Because duh, Dangerous!' - The only people who decided that's what it is all about are those who decided that's what it is. Which it isn't.
If someone has a nice juicy bounty, they're fair game, because THAT'S WHAT BOUNTIES ARE FOR. If I don't have a bounty, and I'm not carrying anything of interest, and I'm not PP flagged, and I'm not waving an Imperial flag from the back of my Cutter... then you have absolutely no legitimate reason to attack me.
Yet the same people who are (predictably) complaining about the new changes, would have us believe that Open = PvP.
I sorely hope the new C&P changes punish those who would attack me for no reason whatsoever get hit very, very hard.
Oh and I heard the ridiculous argument that Hutton Truckers are a minority, so why are they not being targeted for having their game ruined?
Not sure I remember a Hutton Trucker ganking someone. Unless they got in their way I suppose...
Grow up, adapt, or go play CoD - that's more your gamestyle.
Complete SWING AND MISS, I'm talking purely about consensual PVP, please go cry about gankers somewhere else.
Come on fella play the ball not the player; i.e. tackle his point don't try to disenfranchise the poster, it's not cricket.