Little negative feedback for all this years.

Top 10 things, why i will stop playing Elite: Dangerous. Sorry.

1. Poor as MMORPG, Poor as Singleplayer. Elite isn't a Singleplayer or MMO game. There is a mixture of 2 types of game systems,
and all of that implemented only up to 50% max.

2. 450bil space systems. Wow wow! But... Literally here is nothing to do. Actual playable players-field around 500 systems. Thats all.
90% of map is useless. There is no POI, no NPC's, no enemies. Whole map is just copy-paste of NASA starmaps (and also source code for integrate them avalible on public, any idiot on Unity3D can do the 450bil+ starmap easy as hell).

3.
No auto-pilot system, moving from point A to Point B. Is so boring. It's really like manually fly on Archon or Badger in EvE online, but unlike EvE - there is no "Jumpgate-to-Jumpgate" Autopilot or anything like that.

4. Too much generic missions. That's all. Generic missions without any "storyline", "epic-arc", "lore missions"... Those system like on Korean MMO's. Kill over9000 creatures, find over9000 items, pay over9000 money/resources, deliver something from point A to point B...

5. No player owned something... POS?(Player owned structure) maybe office on coreolis for my "company"/clan-like?

6. Useless professions. Mining is useless. Completely. There is no production, i am not able to craft weapons, ships, ammunition and etc. In EvE online i am able to craft any ship, any weapon from resources, and selling that. Research BPO (Blueprint Original) and do many other things. Here - nope.

7. Poor gamedesign for teamplay. Seriosly? I cant give a credits or ship or item to my friend? In Single/Multiplayer game? Ah yeah... i am probably foget about... Elite: Dangerous it's a casual bullet-hell action space MMO Game like DarkOrbit or Battlestar Galactica Online by BigPoint....

8. But if that is MMO game, as you may see, and "action space MMO Game like DarkOrbit or Battlestar Galactica Online" where is PVP? And why many PvP players got banned for it? (due to noobz crying about their ships and spam PvP player for griefing and etc.) Nuff said... Braben, please choose! What is your game should be?!
That is a MMO or Singleplayer/Multiplayer game? If that is MMO, are happens here?! Where the player trade, normal clan/guild systems, free pvp, and etc.
If that is Singleplayer game - WHERE is content?! Where?! Where Lore/Storyline quests, where is detailed designed each of 450bil sector?! With NPCS, factions, lore-quests and etc. For each of 450bil system.

9. Many players become to billionaires with using exploits and bugs. Just for example, grinding ground bases. They are not banned, moneys/assets not removed from the game... Achieve 1kkk moneys via fair play with those boring gameplay? You are serious? It will take a years... But those guys got this for few days...

10. And finally. I've bought Elite:Dangerous pre-order for 50$. On Frontier Store. Before Steam and etc... I have a nothing. just 1 paintjob for Cobra and 1 free ship near start location as i remember and.... that is all ;) Now, when i am see a Elite Dangerous Pack + Horizons + 45%-60% discount... for all just for 20$. And there is not a just 1 paint job. Literally 2 freeships, decals, 5 paintjobs, and some other ****. With Horizons DLC. And just for 20$! Looks like you are damn scammers. Seriously.
That thing is demotivate me alot.


Maybe it's just a frustration, and bad expirience with game. Maybe i am unlucky... But those 10 things demotivate me alot, and looks like a reasons for remove game from my hard-drive. Sad but true. But I am hope, in the future, there will be a improvements in the game and they become really interesting for back. Also, many things in the game i am like alot... But things described above give alot of negative expirience with game.

Thanks for reading. If someone also read this. hehe.
Best Regards.
 
I agree with 1, 4, 5, and 7.

We need to feel like we're actually sharing this universe together, and able to leave a 'footprints' in it.



... Yes I know I'll never visit the entire milky way, but I still enjoy the fact that it's there.


For mining - I agree I wish it had an effect, such as impacting supply/demand and even commodity production.
 
No game can please everybody, that´s just how it is. One thing though, I wouldn't call Frontier scammers just cause horizons is a lot cheaper now than when it came out 1.5 years ago
 
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I play both Elite and EVE, and enjoy them both., but ther are very different games.

It's actually precisely the 'emptiness' about Elite, and apparent aimlessness, that I like. I've got a ship (but sadly no ships cat), a map and some credits. I can trade or explore and do my thing

From your comments about POS, crafting and corporations it does sound like you're expecting a kind of EVE clone: it genuinely shouldn't be that and is not why many players backed the kickstarter or bought it.

I think it's important to understand Elite Dangerous, and its, erm, 'historical' context. It's a development of a first-person space shooter/trader game on 8-bit machines called 'Elite', and its sequels Frontier and Frontier: First Encounters. None of these games in this series have ever had player owned stations, or corporations, and none of them were MMOs or even Multiplayer. Frontier's aim when they made Elite Dangerous was to create a modern day version of 'Elite', not remake EVE!

And as someone who has played and loved the Elite series of games since 1982 (!!!), I was narked enough about having to be online to play the game, but was pleased they included the solo option. Owning a station or a corporation, or crafting, have never been things I wanted from the game, and I'd rather Frontier Devs focussed on continuing to refine their existing game and gameplay without trying to match or compete directly with EVE.

It's a shame you bounced off Elite Dangerous, but different strokes and all that. I do suspect though that if you gave it a chance on its own merits, rather than trying to play it as an alternate version of EVE you'd find plenty to enjoy. It's not a perfect game by a long shot (clunky orange UI, limited to a single commander, etc...) but it's the closest thing we have to an 'Own your own spaceship' simulator and makes for a very decent game in its own right.
 
It's funny because most of those points are why people want to keep playing and do.

It's great it's not a MMORG, it's not supposed to be and that's why it's a great great that caters to the millions of people that are sick of that sort of thing in every game. I've been exploring once for 11 months and now again for 2 months. No system has ever been the same, it's still fascinating jumping from one to another system and seeing what there is in each and every one. And people aren't banned from what you stated as an exploit because it's not an exploit to be banned. It's not cheating in any way. So that's why ED hasn't changed the dynamics of surface scan missions...
 

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Top 10 things, why i will stop playing Elite: Dangerous. Sorry.
Oh boy another why I stop playing Elite Dangerous.

1. Poor as MMORPG, Poor as Singleplayer. Elite isn't a Singleplayer or MMO game. There is a mixture of 2 types of game systems,
and all of that implemented only up to 50% max.
I think it great as a single player I don't play Elite dangerous as a MMO.

2. 450bil space systems. Wow wow! But... Literally here is nothing to do. Actual playable players-field around 500 systems. Thats all.
90% of map is useless. There is no POI, no NPC's, no enemies. Whole map is just copy-paste of NASA starmaps (and also source code for integrate them avalible on public, any idiot on Unity3D can do the 450bil+ starmap easy as hell).
Kinda agree with this one. I think their should be a lost in space POI


3.
No auto-pilot system, moving from point A to Point B. Is so boring. It's really like manually fly on Archon or Badger in EvE online, but unlike EvE - there is no "Jumpgate-to-Jumpgate" Autopilot or anything like that.
Then go play EVE. This game made to be played not play it self.

4. Too much generic missions. That's all. Generic missions without any "storyline", "epic-arc", "lore missions"... Those system like on Korean MMO's. Kill over9000 creatures, find over9000 items, pay over9000 money/resources, deliver something from point A to point B...
I think mission could be improved.

5. No player owned something... POS?(Player owned structure) maybe office on coreolis for my "company"/clan-like?
We do own something Ships.

6. Useless professions. Mining is useless. Completely. There is no production, i am not able to craft weapons, ships, ammunition and etc. In EvE online i am able to craft any ship, any weapon from resources, and selling that. Research BPO (Blueprint Original) and do many other things. Here - nope.
Remember this game base on the Original Elite game that 30 years old. If you like the Eve setup then best to pick which game best suite your needs. Don't try to make a Remake of EVE.

7. Poor gamedesign for teamplay. Seriosly? I cant give a credits or ship or item to my friend? In Single/Multiplayer game? Ah yeah... i am probably foget about... Elite: Dangerous it's a casual bullet-hell action space MMO Game like DarkOrbit or Battlestar Galactica Online by BigPoint....
Oh Great idea Cater to Gold sellers for new players. They pay $$$ for a fully loaded Anaconda. So they might have 15 minutes practice on a Sidewinder they get a Anaconda. good idea. NOT.

8. But if that is MMO game, as you may see, and "action space MMO Game like DarkOrbit or Battlestar Galactica Online" where is PVP? And why many PvP players got banned for it? (due to noobz crying about their ships and spam PvP player for griefing and etc.) Nuff said... Braben, please choose! What is your game should be?!
That is a MMO or Singleplayer/Multiplayer game? If that is MMO, are happens here?! Where the player trade, normal clan/guild systems, free pvp, and etc.
If that is Singleplayer game - WHERE is content?! Where?! Where Lore/Storyline quests, where is detailed designed each of 450bil sector?! With NPCS, factions, lore-quests and etc. For each of 450bil system.
Did you not ask those question earlier.

9. Many players become to billionaires with using exploits and bugs. Just for example, grinding ground bases. They are not banned, moneys/assets not removed from the game... Achieve 1kkk moneys via fair play with those boring gameplay? You are serious? It will take a years... But those guys got this for few days...
Your idea to credit friend and such with ship and credits also show there a exploit. I can see it now. Buy the game. Look on the gold seller website Pay to have them ship me a New Anaconda fully loaded. With 1 billion Credits.

10. And finally. I've bought Elite:Dangerous pre-order for 50$. On Frontier Store. Before Steam and etc... I have a nothing. just 1 paintjob for Cobra and 1 free ship near start location as i remember and.... that is all ;) Now, when i am see a Elite Dangerous Pack + Horizons + 45%-60% discount... for all just for 20$. And there is not a just 1 paint job. Literally 2 freeships, decals, 5 paintjobs, and some other ****. With Horizons DLC. And just for 20$! Looks like you are damn scammers. Seriously.
That thing is demotivate me alot.
Well Frontier has to get their dues in and buying DLC is one way to keep the game going.


Maybe it's just a frustration, and bad expirience with game. Maybe i am unlucky... But those 10 things demotivate me alot, and looks like a reasons for remove game from my hard-drive. Sad but true. But I am hope, in the future, there will be a improvements in the game and they become really interesting for back. Also, many things in the game i am like alot... But things described above give alot of negative expirience with game.
Maybe next time do more research before buying games. For me games like Eve I tried it for a few days and deleted it because it was lame and was nothing like Elite Classic or Wing Commander.
 
Wish people would stop apologising for their opinions.

BTW - it's not a cut and paste of Nasa star maps - it's a procedurally generated galaxy, with known stars (mostly) correctly located.

Z...
 
Thanks for reply!

Well, let's go explain
Frontier's aim when they made Elite Dangerous was to create a modern day version of 'Elite'

That is cute version of Elite. Many many players (and i am too) waiting for something like Elite 4. Not Elite:Dangerous/Hazardous/Horizonus/and etc.
Frontier ruined and simple kicked off whole Lore of Elite. Did you remeber a news at the end on Elite 3? Thagroids and Humans going to peace. Something like that. And many other things. Small but important things.
Literally - Elite: Dangerous nowadays - is a cute version of Elite(1982) without Krait, Mamba, Thagroids (mmm never foget a fun with combat versus it) and other things.
Without ingame lore missions and etc.

Finally, we are waiting a 15 years. Whole 15 years for Elite 4 and got a Elite: Dangerous...

Braben?! What is that?! Elite Dangerous - just re-make of Elite 1? or? If yes, so, are Majestic's and Farraguts doing here? Where Mamaba? Where Krait? Where Thagroids and their invasions?!

If that is Elite 4 - where all of that (described above) and why?! why there is no storyline, where is lore connected to other Elite games? Elite, Elite 2, Elite 3 - connected between them self. But for Elite: Dangerous - all of this broken!

Literally, all what i am see today, at current moment - Elite: Dangerous is a Elite-like game, spin-off, something other but not a Elite itself.



Frontier and Frontier: First Encounters. None of these games in this series have ever had player owned stations, or corporations,
or capital-ships like Nyx Faraggut or Majestic. None of these games in this series no have a broken story-line, not connected to other game series. Aaaand many many other things. Argeed?[big grin]
So, if yes -
....Frontier's aim....create a modern day version of 'Elite'
WHERE?! :D really bad joke about "vanilla" Elite in this case

I've got a ship (but sadly no ships cat), a map and some credits. I can trade or explore and do my thing
Aaaand... in case of multiplayer game, you cannot be a pirate and "true-pvp", cuz Elite carebears will always report you for griefing... nuff said.
Imho, game should be called Elite: Peacefullness or something like that.

In that thing, is literally happens nothing... Better i will explain.

I've got a ship, a map and some credits. I can trade or explore and do my thing
But i will left the game, because is nothing todo. I already have a ship, some credits and whooole map. :D

Trade, NPC grinding, some passenger missions - profitable but useless in cause globally useless and mistakes in game design.
Okay, let see - I need a money for a new ship! - okaaaay!. I need a better ship! Okaay! It's fine, good.
I need.... latest upgrades and etc etc etc. Foooor.... for what? PvP? Okaay. Just kill a 20-30 times any players and got the ban. + there is no a killboard or something like that. What is next? You got a ban! for PvP! I.e. OpenPlay is not avalible anymore.

Playing with friends without normal systems and mechanics for players communicate? (trade, and etc.) Currently that is a pain. Really pain. Reminds a masochizm instead of fun.

Well what is next? You will do... nothing. i.e. "I've got a ship, a map and some credits." - "And that is all what i have in that game and what i am playing for..."

If you will ask be about fun part... well.

Fun part is:

[video=youtube;WERqUb0G6vQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WERqUb0G6vQ[/video]

=)) That is fun. And that is reason for....


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I think it great as a single player I don't play Elite dangerous as a MMO.

Oh Great idea Cater to Gold sellers for new players. They pay $$$ for a fully loaded Anaconda. So they might have 15 minutes practice on a Sidewinder they get a Anaconda. good idea. NOT.

Do you understand what you are talking about? Exeptions nope? If you play it as singleplayer, why do you care about RMT? (Real Money Trading). That is singleplayer! Pssst! I have a sword and 70000 gold in Assasins Creed 5 + cheated stats. Wanna buy it?! Cheap! My savegame.dat on mega filehoster. Haha. It's really looks like selling/buy game saves from singleplayer games.

If serious, there will be no money-traders due to that is not a MMORPG =) and Elite: Dangerous.... look at the Steam their raiting and review... Lolz, better to put your time for accure few accounts for LoL, eliboost them. and selling them for 350$ instead of grinding alot of time for non-popular game. (I mean popularity - 70-80k online like Runescape has or 300k+ like League of Legends MOBA, or 20+/- like EvE online has, not a game like Elite, for choosen ones and fans of series.)


Finally, if i am looking on ED as on Elite 4 - there is too many questions, and game looks like early early alpha ver. of the game. Without ingame lore and other things. If i am looking on ED as on Elite 1 re-make, i dont understand why there is not all Elite 1982 content, and at same time Frontiers did the Beluga liner instead of adding Krait to the game... Plus common gameplay bugs and not fully done systems. I am agreed it's a hard todo such complex things at same time but... Currently it's looks fairly terrible guys.

Not perfect in technical realization? Well, atmosphere, and imagination. I can forgive alot of bugs and exploits in the game... But where, where the lore? Where all of this small things? Aaand...

Horizons in one picture.

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Do you understand what you are talking about? Exeptions nope? If you play it as singleplayer, why do you care about RMT? (Real Money Trading). That is singleplayer! Pssst! I have a sword and 70000 gold in Assasins Creed 5. Wanna buy it! Cheap! Haha.
Yet you think you know what your talking about when you want to give people money and ships. It kinda like give a 8 year child your car keys and go hay you can drive.

If serious, there will be no money-traders due to that is not a MMORPG =) and Elite: Dangerous.... look at the Steam their raiting and review... Lolz, better to put your time for accure few accounts for LoL, eliboost them. and selling them for 350$ instead of grinding alot of time for non-popular game.
So your believing in steam rating is right? Let take a closer look at this. You run a PC just like me. But I don't run Elite Dangerous off of Steam. Dose that mean Rating and reviews from Steam are right? Did they account for PS4 or Xbox also.

Thing is Those rating would mean something if the game only ran from Steam client.
 
OK, well, it seems that your main complaint boils down to 'I'm quitting Elite because it's not EVE'. Which is an absolutely fine and reasonable position: because it isn't.

You raise some good points about the missions, and lack of overarching 'plot' or 'arc', and I do agree with you about ingame Lore as well (although we have GalNet, an ingame wiki/codex would be cool) but then none of the other Elite games had that either. They were all similarly sandboxy/empty.

So yep, all good. I can totally see why you're quitting. If you want crafting, POS, epic PVP battles, then EVE does a fantastic job of that already. The client's free on Steam, there's currently a discount on multi-character training too at the moment, and I hear an argument about Anime lead to a bunch of dreadnoughts tanking a station yesterday.
 
I can compare Elite within Freelancer ^_^ Starlancer, Tachyon - the Fringe, Taikodom, XBTF/X-Tension, X2, X3, Jumpgate.
Well, hmm, Jumpgate - is close ;) Why not talking about Jumpgate things? Hehe, Long live Solarin!

Sorry for offtop, but i just like Elite to be Elite. Currently they are not a fish and not a meat. That is not a re-make of Elite 1 and not a Elite 4. Just separated from the series Elite-like game. Currently. And i am looking on various aspects on it. If i am looking on this as on Elite 1 re-make, i did not understand those "new" things like Majestic Interdictors and other related things. And where is the Krait?!?!?! If i am looking on it as on Elite 4 - why is separated? Where is storyline? Why there is no any allusion, text, news, something! to prevous parts. Where this all! If i am looking on this as on Elite-like game - i am try to compare it with other games, and it's looks so sadly...

Elite should be Elite. Not like currently... Anyways i am like a many things in ED. Like Galnet, Powerplay factions or few other things. But literally, all of those things - without something really major... That will be epic if there will be Thagroid invasions or some activity to show it's "unknown" things + Galnet news about "new alien race", first contact, etc. etc. their unknown activity reports (just flying and cannot be interrupted, but you may see them!) + at some time, some NPC will hire you for investigate this (i.e. storyline things) and etc. etc. etc. In this case, all of current systems will looks great!

As for another example, i remember one old game (not a such old as Elite hehe), called Cabal Online. PC Gamer give them 3/10. Pet system, Craft System, Dungeons, and etc.
But too much generic "korean-like" mmo game. Without storyline, without quest texts!(sic!) needless to say about something else. Just a collection of game systems. Not a game itself. Elite Dangerous currently stay close to it. If you will watch on this really. What do we have? Just foget about other Elites, they does not exists. Thats all. Well, What do we have in that game? A bunch of game-systems, large space (with 90% empty and non-filled space) aaand... nothing! Completely nothing! Just one little exeption is Colonia station, with disrupted FSD-Drive, but... Generally we have a nothing. Yeah, i am agree - that is something, if we imagine prevous Elite's and will play it with Elite series lore in the mind. But how to play? In what timeline? Before Thagroid's Attack, i.e. Before Elite 1 storyline? But how about Farragut, and where is a Krait and other things?

I hope, you understand me now guys. I just want to play on Elite. Not a Elite-like game.


PS. Elite to EvE? Pfff, better to make them as Jumpgate ^_^.
 
Top 10 things, why i will stop playing Elite: Dangerous. Sorry.

1. Poor as MMORPG, Poor as Singleplayer. Elite isn't a Singleplayer or MMO game. There is a mixture of 2 types of game systems,
and all of that implemented only up to 50% max.

2. 450bil space systems. Wow wow! But... Literally here is nothing to do. Actual playable players-field around 500 systems. Thats all.
90% of map is useless. There is no POI, no NPC's, no enemies. Whole map is just copy-paste of NASA starmaps (and also source code for integrate them avalible on public, any idiot on Unity3D can do the 450bil+ starmap easy as hell).

3.
No auto-pilot system, moving from point A to Point B. Is so boring. It's really like manually fly on Archon or Badger in EvE online, but unlike EvE - there is no "Jumpgate-to-Jumpgate" Autopilot or anything like that.

4. Too much generic missions. That's all. Generic missions without any "storyline", "epic-arc", "lore missions"... Those system like on Korean MMO's. Kill over9000 creatures, find over9000 items, pay over9000 money/resources, deliver something from point A to point B...

5. No player owned something... POS?(Player owned structure) maybe office on coreolis for my "company"/clan-like?

6. Useless professions. Mining is useless. Completely. There is no production, i am not able to craft weapons, ships, ammunition and etc. In EvE online i am able to craft any ship, any weapon from resources, and selling that. Research BPO (Blueprint Original) and do many other things. Here - nope.

7. Poor gamedesign for teamplay. Seriosly? I cant give a credits or ship or item to my friend? In Single/Multiplayer game? Ah yeah... i am probably foget about... Elite: Dangerous it's a casual bullet-hell action space MMO Game like DarkOrbit or Battlestar Galactica Online by BigPoint....

8. But if that is MMO game, as you may see, and "action space MMO Game like DarkOrbit or Battlestar Galactica Online" where is PVP? And why many PvP players got banned for it? (due to noobz crying about their ships and spam PvP player for griefing and etc.) Nuff said... Braben, please choose! What is your game should be?!
That is a MMO or Singleplayer/Multiplayer game? If that is MMO, are happens here?! Where the player trade, normal clan/guild systems, free pvp, and etc.
If that is Singleplayer game - WHERE is content?! Where?! Where Lore/Storyline quests, where is detailed designed each of 450bil sector?! With NPCS, factions, lore-quests and etc. For each of 450bil system.

9. Many players become to billionaires with using exploits and bugs. Just for example, grinding ground bases. They are not banned, moneys/assets not removed from the game... Achieve 1kkk moneys via fair play with those boring gameplay? You are serious? It will take a years... But those guys got this for few days...

10. And finally. I've bought Elite:Dangerous pre-order for 50$. On Frontier Store. Before Steam and etc... I have a nothing. just 1 paintjob for Cobra and 1 free ship near start location as i remember and.... that is all ;) Now, when i am see a Elite Dangerous Pack + Horizons + 45%-60% discount... for all just for 20$. And there is not a just 1 paint job. Literally 2 freeships, decals, 5 paintjobs, and some other ****. With Horizons DLC. And just for 20$! Looks like you are damn scammers. Seriously.
That thing is demotivate me alot.


Maybe it's just a frustration, and bad expirience with game. Maybe i am unlucky... But those 10 things demotivate me alot, and looks like a reasons for remove game from my hard-drive. Sad but true. But I am hope, in the future, there will be a improvements in the game and they become really interesting for back. Also, many things in the game i am like alot... But things described above give alot of negative expirience with game.

Thanks for reading. If someone also read this. hehe.
Best Regards.

Have you tried Star Citizen yet? If you have then you most likely have gotten your moneys worth. I know, I know ... you are talking about ED and not SC. I get that .... we can only hope that ED improves with time but those who bought into SC, which was suppose to come out the same year as ED, but did not. Your concerned about the present price as to what it is selling for ON SALE? Try investing around $300 for a game like Rise of Flight for it now to be Free To Play (minus extra aircraft). And I seriously doubt a couple of skins will make yo feel any better. But if it does, let me know what skins you want.

I am not saying you don't have a reason to be upset, it's just that it's a game .... and not a way of life. A disappointment, at least to you, ok .... but not the end of your world. So your options are, Stay with ED and hope for the best along with everyone else here, or leave ED for hopefully a better game or such. Incidentally you might hold of on Andromeda as I have a feeling it's got problems too. We don't know each other but I would hate to see you go. But if go you must then just remember that most of us will be here if you decide to come back.

Chief
 
Th big problem with these forums is that you meet too many die-hard fans who will defend Braben to the end, regardless of what crap he passes off as a game.

I stopped playing a while ago, Horizons added a few bits but but nothing of any real significance other than planetary landings which were badly implemented anyway IMO. I personally won't even consider the next DLC unless there is something to make this game something more than a boring grind. Grind for rep to get ships, grind for engineer introductions, grind for credits, grind for mats to make engineers upgrades.
Then there's RNG implemented all over the place to make all this grind even worse. Honestly, RNG is used when the devs have no idea how to make a decent system that uses skill. But then, there's no real skill in this game, most of it is governed by RNG.

The whole map is wasted. A few systems that are inhabited means everyone is crammed into them and few actually go our exploring because it's so boring. If they gave us a POS, we could at least start to explore the galaxy for a decent place to put our POS, rather than exploring thousands of millions of identical planets just for the sake of exploring.
 
Whole map is just copy-paste of NASA starmaps (and also source code for integrate them avalible on public, any idiot on Unity3D can do the 450bil+ starmap easy as hell).

Quick! Tell Chris Roberts! He seems to be having a crapton of trouble doing more than 3 planets! YOU CAN SAVE 3.0!!!!
 
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