Alien archeology and other mysteries: Thread 10 - The Canonn
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Well it would only be polite to give us a color of what not to shoot
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Hopefully the non-ganking Thargoids will also have access to the Frontier store, and will have alien-specific items for their ship and Holo-Tharg so that we can more readily identify them:
- Christmas Tinsel to drape across their giant leafy structures
- Custom Chitin skins (polkadot, stripes, unicorns)
- Giant Groucho Marx disguises
- Custom 'honks' for their UAs - The classic 'Arrooga', 'Boing' and sound of arrow hitting a tree
FD: Make it so
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Yeah, the sound wasn't great was it! I don't know Delmonte myself but happy to drop him a PM and see.
Re-reading through Drew's lore page and it's a bit confused on the subject. The offset thing is Drew saying the Oresrians were portrayed as a peaceful offset to the Thargoids, so he might have meant this as an offset in the sense of being a comparator. He does say they're a separate race in that paragraph (and then contradicts that elsewhere).
I might see if I can get some clarity from Drew as he seems to be active again at the moment.
For anyone who's interested, the three Oresrian mentions from Drew's page are:
- There was also another race mentioned in “The Dark Wheel”, known as the Oresrians. These were portrayed as a peaceful offset of the Thargoids, but very similar in overall appearance, albeit with a warning to Commanders to “Check the thorax markings and the shape of the fourth joint on each hind leg before jumping to conclusions.”
- {talking about the flowerships} Their similarity in behaviour, form and function to the old stories cannot be denied, but there are major differences too. Perhaps they could be the warlike Thargoids, the Oresrians, the Klaxians… or something else?
- Thargoids are divided into more than one group. We know of the Oresrians and the Klaxians.
- {talking about the flowerships} Their similarity in behaviour, form and function to the old stories cannot be denied, but there are major differences too. Perhaps they could be the warlike Thargoids, the Oresrians, the Klaxians… or something else?
- Thargoids are divided into more than one group. We know of the Oresrians and the Klaxians.
Also here's the bit from The Dark Wheel where the Thargoid/Oresrian confusion occurs and they're both described:
Alex scanned the high walls for a hint of McGreavy's warehouse. As he did so he found himself standing behind two tall, violent-looking insect-forms, their bodies armoured in light grey, their facetted eyes swivelling to stare at him as they talked together, chelicerae clashing and clacking in their peculiar mode of communication.
Alex stepped away, heart beating, blood rushing to his head. Compound eyes, jointed limbs, head antennae, double cutting jaws . . .
Thargoids!
Here, on a space station!
Thargoids were deadly. Thargoid spacers had their fear-glands removed, and were considered to be the most effective and potent of humankind's enemies. The bounty for killing a Thargoid was huge, and for capturing and delivering the juvenile form, the Tharglet, to any Space Navy research centre, even greater.
What were they doing here?
The Thargoids chatted together and watched Alex coldly. Alex noticed that each had an appendage resting on its thoracic plate, where they holstered their hand-lasers.
'Back off,' a voice whispered, and Alex turned. McGreavy stood there blinking through his deformities. Alex had not grasped how short the man was; he only came up as far as Alex's chest. 'Thargoids . . .' he whispered.
'Bull,' McGreavy said, and dragged Alex away. 'They're Oresrians, and the one thing that can make an Oresrian deadly is being confused the way you've just confused them, with their deadly enemies the Thargoids. Check the thorax markings and the shape of the fourth joint on each hind leg before you jump to conclusions again . . .'
Alex stepped away, heart beating, blood rushing to his head. Compound eyes, jointed limbs, head antennae, double cutting jaws . . .
Thargoids!
Here, on a space station!
Thargoids were deadly. Thargoid spacers had their fear-glands removed, and were considered to be the most effective and potent of humankind's enemies. The bounty for killing a Thargoid was huge, and for capturing and delivering the juvenile form, the Tharglet, to any Space Navy research centre, even greater.
What were they doing here?
The Thargoids chatted together and watched Alex coldly. Alex noticed that each had an appendage resting on its thoracic plate, where they holstered their hand-lasers.
'Back off,' a voice whispered, and Alex turned. McGreavy stood there blinking through his deformities. Alex had not grasped how short the man was; he only came up as far as Alex's chest. 'Thargoids . . .' he whispered.
'Bull,' McGreavy said, and dragged Alex away. 'They're Oresrians, and the one thing that can make an Oresrian deadly is being confused the way you've just confused them, with their deadly enemies the Thargoids. Check the thorax markings and the shape of the fourth joint on each hind leg before you jump to conclusions again . . .'
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Interesting read - but I was led to believe humans and thargoids can't exist in the same temperature range...?
There is an smal range where we can coexist. Around -30C should be acceptable.
The Dark Wheel is not considered valid lore. IT falls into the mythology category.
Out of the darkness is lore.
It's most likely that the Thargoid war was fought against Oresrians. The FFE lore that has been partly repeated in Galnet suggests that we managed to get in a fight with the nice guys.
The part that has not been repetated tells us that Klaxians are rare, because they were beaten by the Oresrians in a huge war. No Galnet mention means it should be taken with a grain of salt.
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If you mean the bit from The Dark Wheel then I don't think it's canon anymore - though they did say the Thargoids now are the Thargoids from '84 which is what The Dark Wheel describes so who knows what applies.
Thanks for the clarification! Can't rep you at the moment so have some virtual +rep.
I take it the '84 manual falls into the mythology category too? There's all kinds of juicy stuff in there. The Galactic Navy developing 'RemCraft' based on captured Thargons, for example!
Alas, this seems to be the case.
Hopefully the non-ganking Thargoids will also have access to the Frontier store, and will have alien-specific items for their ship and Holo-Tharg so that we can more readily identify them:
- Christmas Tinsel to drape across their giant leafy structures
- Custom Chitin skins (polkadot, stripes, unicorns)
- Giant Groucho Marks disguises
- Custom 'honks' for their UAs - The classic 'Arrooga', 'Boing' and sound of arrow hitting a tree
FD: Make it so
The 3 year old granddaughter has already got a dragon suit. I could see a Tharg outfit for Xmas!
Oresrian T shirt for me please!
But there was another quote (galnet? drewW??) that "Thargoid" was the name given to aliens so it could still apply to both Klaxians and Oresrians even if they biologically aren't the same genus....
One of the kickstarter books had a Thargoid base and ended up with them chasing humans towards the exits, so I'm not so sure
Out of the Darkness. Great read.
Thargoids in space are bad enough, on the ground "they just nasty".
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Remember! If you want to get your bug killing mind set on before 2.4! please watch Star Ship Troopers!.... All of them. Its a good day to die.
Err... pretty sure you were asking about Regor on here only very recently and got various responses including one talking about Gamma Velorum....
Anyway.... let's run through it. Is there any reason why you think Gamma Velorum is the Guardian's system other than it being in the middle of Regor? (And don't get me wrong, GV being the Guardians home system is superficially an easy conclusion to jump to. I wondered if it might be the home system at first, but a deeper look indicated it isn't.)
Can you clarify why you think GV being a WR star would tie in with the dimming experienced on the Guardians homeworld? (Just saying "if it was dimming" doesn't count - if any star was dimming it would tie in.) And how does the other information about the system amount to supporting rather than ruling out it being the Guardian home system?
Something to bear in mind here is that the WR and the O are only 3.5 - 5.5 Myr old and the Guardians died out several Myr ago.
Also, what about the point from my previous reply about Melville's hypothesis about a forced migration from an original bubble?
I just noticed something while farnarcling around Merope 5C barnacle (which is currently ripe) and noticed something when "opening" a barnacle spire. The effect looks like a space distortion when it explodes. I would not expect it to be an air compression effect you see from high-speed recordings of explosions as that is an atmospheric effect, and there is no atmosphere here to effect.
It might not be that visible in daylight, but I noticed it with the contrast between the background and the lighting from my ship and SRV. It looks more obvious in video than a single screenshot.
It might not be that visible in daylight, but I noticed it with the contrast between the background and the lighting from my ship and SRV. It looks more obvious in video than a single screenshot.
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Good point! And yeah it was DrewW. He basically said to remember that Thargoids was just the name that we'd given to them, not what they called themselves, and that we could equally call the flowerships etc. Thargoids but that it didn't necessarily mean they were the same beings as the previous Thargoids. (And hats off to Drew in fairness for not giving the game away while also not saying anything untrue!)
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The explosive effect of the spikes did get a makeover with 2.3. You'll probably notice the brighter flash, mild distortion, and the smoke ring afterwards. Slow the effect down and you see the whole explosion.
I presume its related to some energy gathered by the barnacle being released as the spike errupts.
Made a slow motion video of the effect a few days back. 5 or 6 frames to the effect., 1st frame being the most dramatic.
I think there are more than two. My theory though it may be way off is the correlation of two items that probably have something to do with each other....or do they? I've spent about a week catching up on reading this forum and others , kind of on the outside looking in. I think that the spectragram is pointing in Thargoid known locations of the other races involved. Again,I could be way off but look for yourself, where beacons are and where the known presumed thargoid places are.
The lower left and right are distances, they are equal much like the beacon locations. Just wondering if there are more beacons to be found around the top of the galaxy map? if you were to lay one image over the other image it lines up accordingly. Again, I'm going on a visual here and thanks for hearing me out...6
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