Alien archeology and other mysteries: Thread 10 - The Canonn

[Raile]

I won't be able to play for a few days so I won't be able to do this myself, but has anyone tried plugging in human made goods at the sites?
We got a reaction from Thargoid things and Guardian things, how about human things? Maybe drag a few tons of consumer electronics over and see what happens.

 

[metatheurgist]

So if we ever need to destroy a Thargoid base we need 3 brave CMDRs to run in and drop Guardian power sources into the reactor?

 

[Jorki Rasalas]

The stars of the Unknown Device's galactic map seems to be only bright blue and bright yellow (right? Those usually being in the inner side of the big enough arms), I wonder if they really match the game galaxy's O B A F (G) class stars - they seems to like the big and powerful stars like the ones in the Pleiades?

I vaguely remember a comment (FD? DW?) along the lines that the aliens prefer hot O/B stars as they need the energy......and that's why they're interested in the Pleiades

 

[Ozric]

So something I was musing last night, which I'm not sure if it's been tested (it's been a busy day at work so haven't caught up fully),

Get someone inside to activate the Unknown Device in the normal way, then get someone to hover just above the main structure in their ship and then do an ADS scan to ping the UP.

Even better if you can time it so the person in the SRV scans the Unknown Device at the same time as the ADS ping. My reasoning being that scanning the Unknown Device gives you an audio file that produces a spectrogram and the UP does the same. (it also would be interesting to see if the UP has any effect on the scavengers inside the structure)

Might also be worth having someone in space ping a UP at the same time as someone next to it plays the audio file gotten from the Unknown Device.

So, you took Alien artifact, stole it, brought it to a human base, and sold it?

Are you MAD sir? You might as well put a huge neonlight board on the human bubble that says: "we are here, kill us now!"


What were you thinking?!

Hehe, I was about to say something Dusty, but there's no need... Why do you think Jaques didn't make it all the way to Beagle Point

You clearly don't know me (looks for DNA-Decay's poster... ah... here it is! )

 

[TheHavoc]

I vaguely remember a comment (FD? DW?) along the lines that the aliens prefer hot O/B stars as they need the energy......and that's why they're interested in the Pleiades

OMG - maybe their homeworld is a Dyson sphere ?

 

[Blagsc]

Hmm something i was wondering...We can get data from Unknown uplinks(possibly due to the links being in the facility?) what if we take a Unknown link to a barnacle? and see if they work as a link for there receivers(may be why the uplinks and the other artifacts all work in the base?) Might make the barnacle data readable? (that or nothing happens at all)

 

[Lacrimosa]

OMG - maybe their homeworld is a Dyson sphere ?

Unlikely, as we would discover the emmisions from the star, or to put it better, the lack of it. And then an expedition would be dispatched to investigate. If they didn't return then everyone would know about it. It's hard for civilian expedition to go unnoticed.

 

[CMDR Ofan]

The stars of the Unknown Device's galactic map seems to be only bright blue and bright yellow (right? Those usually being in the inner side of the big enough arms), I wonder if they really match the game galaxy's O B A F (G) class stars - they seems to like the big and powerful stars like the ones in the Pleiades?

It is highly unlikely to be that kind of map unless the galaxy it is referring it is very, very small. Rare as some of those types of stars are they will number in millions galaxy wide rather than the few hundred/thousand shown.

The "map" is either showing something more specific than stars of a certain class, like goid inhabited/crash site systems/nebulas/visited systems etc or it is purely symbolic and has no deeper meaning other than an image indicating goid data collection/repository.

Hmm something i was wondering...We can get data from Unknown uplinks(possibly due to the links being in the facility?) what if we take a Unknown link to a barnacle? and see if they work as a link for there receivers(may be why the uplinks and the other artifacts all work in the base?) Might make the barnacle data readable? (that or nothing happens at all)

UL does nothing at barnacle sites, I sat and watched one for hours last night, not a peep.

 

[StonedThoughts]

One more for the record:
Listening Post leading via the Pandora to Site 4 found at 42 N Persei (A 7)... ^^

Also i might have found a way to easily locate them, will do further investigation research stuff and call back if it works out.
o7

 

[Jorki Rasalas]

So if we ever need to destroy a Thargoid base we need 3 brave CMDRs to run in and drop Guardian power sources into the reactor?

JManis is good at that sort of thing

 

[Dark_Helmet]

When the flowerships (Thargons according to Sandro in Lavecon video?) visit the barnacles they do not upload the MA, the MA pods can be seen remaining on the ground/spikes after the event.

True, they don't directly take the MA, but the MA is to all intents and purposes the fruit of the barnacle, the Thargons could easily just be taking the nutrients that *would* have gone into the MA directly from the source.

 

[Blagsc]

It is highly unlikely to be that kind of map unless the galaxy it is referring it is very, very small. Rare as some of those types of stars are they will number in millions galaxy wide rather than the few hundred/thousand shown.

The "map" is either showing something more specific than stars of a certain class, like goid inhabited/crash site systems/nebulas/visited systems etc or it is purely symbolic and has no deeper meaning other than an image indicating goid data collection/repository.



UL does nothing at barnacle sites, I sat and watched one for hours last night, not a peep.

ha well that ends that i suppose! shame

 

[butcherboytoma]

So what is the biggest brightest blue, white star ingame?

 

[CMDR Ofan]

True, they don't directly take the MA, but the MA is to all intents and purposes the fruit of the barnacle, the Thargons could easily just be taking the nutrients that *would* have gone into the MA directly from the source.

The barnacles are a weird unknown quantity at this point. I'm ready to accept anything about them at this point, even that they are the manifestation of the Mycoid virus and the meta alloy they make is as a result of their degradation/collection of surrounding materials.....out of all of this they make me wear the most tinfoil!

 

[Codger]

Ok, sounds like only UA is required for door and UL - I'll update my guide - thanks!(same info)

Here's what I did when I got there, to add to the mix.

I went in, with a UA and UP in my hold, and went over to the UL chamber to see the ULs. They came down from the ceiling when I got close enough.

I left them there and went to the main chamber. The ULs disappeared as I left, back up into the ceiling.

I placed the UA and UP into the Unknown Device, then went back to the UL chamber. The ULs came back down from the ceiling when I got close again.

So the second time, I had nothing in my hold, and they still came down. (You can verify this from my how-to video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N75tZXaUuPc)

Perhaps I just triggered them the first time, and they stayed active after that. Or something else.

PS: I used the "tried and true" method of UP gathering, but it still took 3.5 hours for one to spawn for me. I think it's all just RNG.

 

[CMDR Dreamstate]

Yes, various people have been testing with other combinaitons, as have you, since you made that statement; that testing is good, but when you made that statement the testing hadn't started so it was incorrect - an assertion without supporting evidence. No hate or salt intended, just defence of the scientific method.
Science = Theory+Experiment: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_method

By all means follow the scientific method - but it is important to remember;

i) This is a game where everything is pre-programmed so therefore events will happen because 1+1=2. Scientific Method applies to reality, but we must remember we are trying to solve puzzles in a game.
ii) We're still playing 2.3 Gaurdian content - it isn't 2.4 yet - sometimes logic is enough.
iii) Testing was done with various objects before Lave Radio was the first to publish results, and I did state earlier in the day "Has anyone attempted to use Gaurdian Artefacts in the Galaxy Chamber to see if they sing or chime" or something to that extent (turns out they make the structure scream in rage instead) - which people duly noted or already had that idea to test to begin with.

Besides, I'm not a member of Canonn, so I'm at liberty to flaunt "the sacred method" in favour of whatever idea or thoery floats in my head ^^ It may not impress you or many others, but hey, forums.

 

[mason116665]

Thargoids killing human travellers?

so a couple of hours ago I responded to an unidentified signal and when I aproached i found the remains of a battle along with some personal effects, and among them was an unknown artefact now i do not know if this means that the thargoids have taken violent action against humans or the humans were simply carrying the artefact, but if they were simply carrying the artefact then how come whoever destroyed them did not pick it up? This could just be nothing but I think it is worth looking into, I do have pictures but I do not know how to upload them from ps4.

 

[Momijisu]

Posted this on the Cannon community discord, but been recommended to share it here too.

So on surveying the site in HIP 14909 I located several clusters of the hull where upwards of 3 salvage drones were spraying/sucking material onto/off of the surface of the hull. The drones have also been noted to interact with the fungus like growths inside the unknown structures.

After the last Thargoid war it is known that we released a bio weapon on the Thargoids - a fungal like virus which corroded the Thargoid's bio ships. It is my belief that these are actually crashed/buried Thargoid capital ships. The reason they're abandoned/inactive and in such disrepair. I also believe that the Thargoid crew are either dead, or elsewhere in the ship (The Cartography room has several doors in the ceiling which could house more of the ship) they died out because they were now stranded because of the disease. The drones have been on auto pilot ever since, trying to cleanse the ships from the virus.

The map itself that we see after inputting the unknown objects (Ul/UP/UA) is either a data uplink, or their version of our Galnet map, it's their interface for controlling travel. This is the default view that we're seeing.

Here is an image I took from the site after I noticed 4 salvage drones gathered around this patch of hull.

We know from past interviews with David Braben that the cure to this plague never happened - there was no happy ending to the Thargoid war. These ships are relics from that war all that time ago, and this is why they're unoccupied and so heavily damaged.

The virus we used against them was fungal in origin, the postules that we find around the ship are corrosive, the drones appear to interact with them and take note - in between their other duties of repair and scanning. On the exterior, the drones congregate around the damaged portions of the hull where this fungal like material lines the hull of the ship.

Many of the locations, when viewed from orbit have a blast pattern, almost like they 'spun' into the surface like a screw. Similar to how we've observed the other Thargoid vessels move.

Some further thoughts - could the beam we see when the Ancient Relic is added to the interface be some kind of projected beam weapon? Could we have accidentally tripped the ship's weapons system or perhaps it's immune systems? Certainly the fact that all of the salvage drones become hostile when a relic is added to the interface suggests this in some fashion.

And there you have it Commanders, my theory on the situation we're slowly shedding light on. I hope it gives you pause for thought, and perhaps informs your future experiments and investigations.

 

[CMDR Ofan]

Posted this on the Cannon community discord, but been recommended to share it here too.

So on surveying the site in HIP 14909 I located several clusters of the hull where upwards of 3 salvage drones were spraying material onto the surface of the hull. The drones have also been noted to interact with the fungus like growths inside the unknown structures.


Here is an image I took from the site after I noticed 4 salvage drones gathered around this patch of hull.

http://i.imgur.com/fO26ddu.jpg

We know from past interviews with David Braben that the cure to this plague never happened - there was no happy ending to the Thargoid war. These ships are relics from that war all that time ago, and this is why they're unoccupied and so heavily damaged.

The drones aren't spraying, they are sucking, with what looks like a miniature version of the beam the flower ships use. (best view is at the end of the vid)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDFFaXXdpRg

 

[slartybartfast]

The drones aren't spraying, they are sucking, with what looks like a miniature version of the beam the flower ships use. (best view is at the end of the vid)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDFFaXXdpRg

it has also been shown that these things release green liquid on to the ground at times.
so are these things infected and are they spreading the fungus stuff?