Alien archeology and other mysteries: Thread 10 - The Canonn

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TheHavoc

TheHavoc
Momijisu said:
Posted this on the Cannon community discord, but been recommended to share it here too.

So on surveying the site in HIP 14909 I located several clusters of the hull where upwards of 3 salvage drones were spraying material onto the surface of the hull. The drones have also been noted to interact with the fungus like growths inside the unknown structures.



Here is an image I took from the site after I noticed 4 salvage drones gathered around this patch of hull.

http://i.imgur.com/fO26ddu.jpg

We know from past interviews with David Braben that the cure to this plague never happened - there was no happy ending to the Thargoid war. These ships are relics from that war all that time ago, and this is why they're unoccupied and so heavily damaged.
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Had similar thoughts some posts ago, regarding yours leeds me to another hypothesis: what if the Thargoids, irrespective whether they are genetical engineered (in former times perhaps a "biological weapon"and now a thinking race), are (still) in bad trouble caused by the mycoid ? I could come to this conclusion because IT IS NOT WITNESSED that they yet had attacked something (!!!) and the scavenger's trying to repair/cure the hull leave a somehow impression of dispair and/or hopelessness.
 
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Asadaine

Asadaine
Jorki Rasalas said:
I vaguely remember a comment (FD? DW?) along the lines that the aliens prefer hot O/B stars as they need the energy......and that's why they're interested in the Pleiades
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Yes I remember Drew Wagar mentioning this in one of of his interviews with DJ Truthsayer. He mentioned the Pleiades and it's hot, young, blue stars as a significant source of energy and seemed to imply it being a reason for the alien interest in the region.

I think it's in this interview if someone wan't to go fishing for it. I'm at work currently so cant.

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/85666548
 
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CMDR Ofan

CMDR Ofan
Blagsc said:
They could be purifying it? that or using it to build?(similar to literal alien? reusable "goo")
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Goid tech is organic, it's possible they are recycling it now they have a cure. The old husk of the crashed ships look like ants infected with that crazy zombie fungus in thw jungle that eats them up and takes them over. As many have observed there seems to be a visible difference between the old goid tech and the new. Looks to me like they are using the old biomatter to fabricate new tech and "feed" or maintain it now they have a cure, they may be eating it for all I know, they are alien after all.

Also https://bentchr.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/mg_56691.jpg
Opiocordycps unilateralis, Fungal disease that attacks insects....
 
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TheOneWithNoLife

TheOneWithNoLife
Momijisu said:
Posted this on the Cannon community discord, but been recommended to share it here too.

So on surveying the site in HIP 14909 I located several clusters of the hull where upwards of 3 salvage drones were spraying material onto the surface of the hull. The drones have also been noted to interact with the fungus like growths inside the unknown structures.



Here is an image I took from the site after I noticed 4 salvage drones gathered around this patch of hull.

http://i.imgur.com/fO26ddu.jpg

We know from past interviews with David Braben that the cure to this plague never happened - there was no happy ending to the Thargoid war. These ships are relics from that war all that time ago, and this is why they're unoccupied and so heavily damaged.

The virus we used against them was fungal in origin, the postules that we find around the ship are corrosive, the drones appear to interact with them and take note - in between their other duties of repair and scanning. On the exterior, the drones congregate around the damaged portions of the hull where this fungal like material lines the hull of the ship.

Many of the locations, when viewed from orbit have a blast pattern, almost like they 'spun' into the surface like a screw. Similar to how we've observed the other Thargoid vessels move.

http://i.imgur.com/jQxQksF.jpg

And there you have it Commanders, my theory on the situation we're slowly shedding light on. I hope it gives you pause for thought, and perhaps informs your future experiments and investigations.
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It is possible that those crash sites are new. Maybe the Feds were carrying the virus and trying to attack the targs with it. Maybe that's why they fought back and destroyed those capital ships/corvettes. And then they crashed because they still got infected with the virus, which disrupted their systems causing them to fail after the battle.
 

Blagsc

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CMDR Ofan said:
Goid tech is organic, it's possible they are recycling it now they have a cure. The old husk of the crashed ships look like ants infected with that crazy zombie fungus in thw jungle that eats them up and takes them over. As many have observed there seems to be a visible difference between the old goid tech and the new. Looks to me like they are using the old biomatter to fabricate new tech and "feed" or maintain it now they have a cure, they may be eating it for all I know, they are alien after all.

Also https://bentchr.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/mg_56691.jpg
Opiocordycps unilateralis, Fungal disease that attacks insects....
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Might be even possible that there "maintaining" it till a cure ship arrives(if they have one) or that it still has a purpose
 

CMDR Ofan

CMDR Ofan
TheOneWithNoLife said:
It is possible that those crash sites are new. Maybe the Feds were carrying the virus and trying to attack the targs with it. Maybe that's why they fought back and destroyed those capital ships/corvettes. And then they crashed because they still got infected with the virus, which disrupted their systems causing them to fail after the battle.
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Only one site is alive and they have caved in sections. I'm only going off the visual cues at the site but there are pockmarks like meteorite impacts on the larger structures (although that may be organic patterning).

Given what appears to be visible ageing and the condition of the caved in sections of the base I would say it looks older rather than younger to me, of course the eyes can be deceived!
 

Blagsc

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CMDR Ofan said:
Only one site is alive and they have caved in sections. I'm only going off the visual cues at the site but there are pockmarks like meteorite impacts on the larger structures (although that may be organic patterning).

Given what appears to be visible ageing and the condition of the caved in sections of the base I would say it looks older rather than younger to me, of course the eyes can be deceived!
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Could be there way of repairing? If there shell is Sudo Chitin it could just grow back?(might be why they have pockmarks but its "regrown") But the cave ins do indeed make it look old
 
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CMDR Dreamstate

CMDR Dreamstate
Momijisu said:
Posted this on the Cannon community discord, but been recommended to share it here too.

So on surveying the site in HIP 14909 I located several clusters of the hull where upwards of 3 salvage drones were spraying/sucking material onto/of of the surface of the hull. The drones have also been noted to interact with the fungus like growths inside the unknown structures.



Here is an image I took from the site after I noticed 4 salvage drones gathered around this patch of hull.

http://i.imgur.com/fO26ddu.jpg

We know from past interviews with David Braben that the cure to this plague never happened - there was no happy ending to the Thargoid war. These ships are relics from that war all that time ago, and this is why they're unoccupied and so heavily damaged.

The virus we used against them was fungal in origin, the postules that we find around the ship are corrosive, the drones appear to interact with them and take note - in between their other duties of repair and scanning. On the exterior, the drones congregate around the damaged portions of the hull where this fungal like material lines the hull of the ship.

Many of the locations, when viewed from orbit have a blast pattern, almost like they 'spun' into the surface like a screw. Similar to how we've observed the other Thargoid vessels move.

http://i.imgur.com/jQxQksF.jpg

And there you have it Commanders, my theory on the situation we're slowly shedding light on. I hope it gives you pause for thought, and perhaps informs your future experiments and investigations.
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I think your analysis is spot on!

Looks like a huge mothership!

Crumbs!

So... Does that mean the Flower vessels pulling us out of Hyperspace are "Thargons"? Would be shocking to learn if they are (and it isn't the Scavengers), haha! :D
 

Blagsc

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CMDR Dreamstate said:
I think your analysis is spot on!

Looks like a huge mothership!

Crumbs!

So... Does that mean the Flower vessels pulling us out of Hyperspace are "Thargons"? Would be shocking to learn if they are (and it isn't the Scavengers), haha! :D
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Tbh lets say the sites are ships! Imagine getting pulled out of hyperspace expecting a flower ship and just seeing the large one releasing the flowers
 

Aekzo

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Jorki Rasalas said:
I vaguely remember a comment (FD? DW?) along the lines that the aliens prefer hot O/B stars as they need the energy......and that's why they're interested in the Pleiades
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https://clips.twitch.tv/PrettiestAcceptableOxMingLee

CMDR Ofan said:
It is highly unlikely to be that kind of map unless the galaxy it is referring it is very, very small. Rare as some of those types of stars are they will number in millions galaxy wide rather than the few hundred/thousand shown.

The "map" is either showing something more specific than stars of a certain class, like goid inhabited/crash site systems/nebulas/visited systems etc or it is purely symbolic and has no deeper meaning other than an image indicating goid data collection/repository.
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It's indeed possible another criteria is narrowing down the number of OABF. Like the hottest/brightest/biggest of them.

OABF by luminosity class, according to eddb.io (say only 5% of them overall - more than the average as they draw more attention):

Hypergiant: 0
Supergiant: 6
Bright giant: 8
Giant: 24
Subgiant: 73
Total: 111

By extrapolating to the estimation of the undiscovered systems we obtain 2775 systems.
 

Jmanis

Jmanis
Out of interest, if these wreck sites are essentially larger Thargoid vessels... looking closely at the way the center room reacts to the Unknown Relic being added into it,,, it looks like the beam (weapon?) it uses against the barnacles.

Assuming these ships are essentially 'seriously wounded' but still alive (in a coma if you will) and being possibly repaired/cannibalized by the scavengers, and there's a possibility the Thargoids were created by the Guardians... could the relics perhaps be some sort of power source (as they appear to be at the guardian sites)... and since we don't know what we're really doing, adding it to the bit in the middle might be "loading and firing" the "weapons" on the front of the vessel? It makes sense if you consider these wrecks look to have gone in face-first.

Anyway, no dice on getting a UP back, so it's off to bed for me :(
 

CMDR Dreamstate

CMDR Dreamstate
Jmanis said:
Out of interest, if these wreck sites are essentially larger Thargoid vessels... looking closely at the way the center room reacts to the Unknown Relic being added into it,,, it looks like the beam (weapon?) it uses against the barnacles.

Assuming these ships are essentially 'seriously wounded' but still alive (in a coma if you will) and being possibly repaired/cannibalized by the scavengers, and there's a possibility the Thargoids were created by the Guardians... could the relics perhaps be some sort of power source (as they appear to be at the guardian sites)... and since we don't know what we're really doing, adding it to the bit in the middle might be "loading and firing" the "weapons" on the front of the vessel? It makes sense if you consider these wrecks look to have gone in face-first.

Anyway, no dice on getting a UP back, so it's off to bed for me :(
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Someone has to do an art mockup of some kind!

Considering the flower ships have 1 glass-like canopy... maybe the large one will have a dome with multiple ones on the front? Like many eyes? Fun to get imaginitive :D
 

CMDR Ofan

CMDR Ofan
Aekzo said:
https://clips.twitch.tv/PrettiestAcceptableOxMingLee



It's indeed possible another criteria is narrowing down the number of OABF. Like the hottest/brightest/biggest of them.

OABF by luminosity class, according to eddb.io (say only 5% of them overall - more than the average as they draw more attention):

Hypergiant: 0
Supergiant: 6
Bright giant: 8
Giant: 24
Subgiant: 73
Total: 111

By extrapolating to the estimation of the undiscovered systems we obtain 2775 systems.
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5% of just F class stars in the milky way is a number many times larger than this.
 
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