Alien archeology and other mysteries: Thread 10 - The Canonn

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malenfant

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morph113 said:
Yeah that of course doesn't make any sense. I mean they could be using something like a morse code, but the meaning of long, long, short or whatever would be completely different. Unless they studied our morse code and the messages were meant for us. But then again, why not just talk in English if they studied us. It's probably done on purpose by FD because if they would use a completely made up alien language or codes, we couldn't possibly understand it.
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I think it'd make more sense if the flashes were 0s and 1s. That at least could translate to numbers, and we know they use binary because the spectrograph had the binary for 1, 2 and 3 in it.
 

rizal72

rizal72
CMDR Ofan said:
.11955
.01551
1.01852

.11658
.01551
1.00322

.11632
.15789
1.02055

3 different bearing from I dunno, say Merope? if the 1st 2 describe angular bearings on x and y and the 3rd describes distance would that work? They should make a 3 some of pretty close systems...maybe a search area?
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What comes to my eye is that we have two .01551...
 

Obsidian Ant

Obsidian Ant
morph113 said:
Wasn't it already reported that nothing is happening on the outside? And maybe pattern was the wrong word. Maybe there is no repeating cycle and there is just one whole sequence and 1 message. But you have to agree that you can easily see and make out long and short flashes which may or may not translate to morse code. I don't know morse code so I can't check myself.
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Maybe the whole 5 minute sequence is one long message.
 

Becks

Becks
M. Volgrand said:
I'm unable to make up the pattern, if there is one, it doesn't seem to be cyclic.
But the test I would suggest to do: we need to do the "defense activation" of the base while other commanders are outside. If this is a real defense mechanism, or a way of sending a MAYDAY, logic tells me that there should be a huge reaction in the outside of the base as well.
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I wonder what happens if you drop three at once in.
 

Hfarl

Hfarl
CMDR Ofan said:
.11955
.01551
1.01852

.11658
.01551
1.00322

.11632
.15789
1.02055

3 different bearing from I dunno, say Merope? if the 1st 2 describe angular bearings on x and y and the 3rd describes distance would that work? They should make a 3 some of pretty close systems...maybe a search area?
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I find it curious that the (decimal) number 3095 pops up repeatedly in the denominator of the ratios. If these are indeed ratios, then that means some number is being compared against the same value.
 

Blind Pew

Blind Pew
Would someone mind giving me the benefit of their experience? I simply cannot get the Unknown Link to produce in the lower chanbers of the Alien Structure. I've gone in there with both the UA and UP in my SRV and with both the UA and UP within the Unknown Device. In all cases all I get in the UL room is the 'plasma tendrils' descending from the machine but no UL with them. Is this a bug or am I doing something wrong here? I've lost a few SRV's to corrosion now so it is begining to grate a bit. If you can help, I'd be very grateful.
 

CMDR Ofan

CMDR Ofan
rizal72 said:
What comes to my eye is that we have two .01551...
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All the numbers are relatively similar which is why in my minds eye if they were coords from a fixed point they would be reasonably local, like locating signals from a volume and then using that to define a search area.

If 2 of the numbers are the same......

Wait with radio signals do you work out the average value of a set of coords to estimate a location? I can't remember.

Looking at Waces post are they planet descriptions? Like gravity, radius and distance from Col and we just need to find bodies that match?
 
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rizal72

rizal72
Hfarl said:
I find it curious that the (decimal) number 3095 pops up repeatedly in the denominator of the ratios. If these are indeed ratios, then that means some number is being compared against the same value.
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More on this, we have many 6027 as we have many 3095...
 

subhouse07

subhouse07
morph113 said:
Yeah that of course doesn't make any sense. I mean they could be using something like a morse code, but the meaning of long, long, short or whatever would be completely different. Unless they studied our morse code and the messages were meant for us. But then again, why not just talk in English if they studied us. It's probably done on purpose by FD because if they would use a completely made up alien language or codes, we couldn't possibly understand it.
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Of course I could be wrong but I don't think FDev made it that way for our convenience. After all the talk about "making the aliens truly alien" it would seem a little strange for them to say "well completely alien except they know morse." I think there's gotta be a darned good reason for it like human involvement. How else would the UA know our system names? Until the relation between the thargoid ships and the unknown ______ becomes clear, I think they are the product of some human meddling. Probably by the group now thought to be inra who were trying to cover this up.
 

lord_welsh

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could be a shot in the dark but could these so called thargoid bases be terraforming the planets, the vent pod things inside and out seem to be spewing out amonia
 

ebbrell

ebbrell

Ozric

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Ozric
Blind Pew said:
Would someone mind giving me the benefit of their experience? I simply cannot get the Unknown Link to produce in the lower chanbers of the Alien Structure. I've gone in there with both the UA and UP in my SRV and with both the UA and UP within the Unknown Device. In all cases all I get in the UL room is the 'plasma tendrils' descending from the machine but no UL with them. Is this a bug or am I doing something wrong here? I've lost a few SRV's to corrosion now so it is begining to grate a bit. If you can help, I'd be very grateful.
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Are you in an instance with other Cmdrs? Could it be that they've all been taken? I dropped off the UA and UP in the main room before going to get the UL and the second time I picked one up I had nothing in my hold. That second time I was in an instance with other Cmdrs and only 2 ULs dropped in the room I went into.
 

Aerthran

Aerthran
malenfant said:
We're just gonna skim over the fact that aliens know morse code, right...? ;)
(though binary would make more sense. 0 = long, 1 = short?)
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Oh, that has an easy answer:
Morse code was invented circa 1837..
The Pleiades are at 444 Ly of distance..
and Elite happens circa 3300..

Most probably Morse signals reached the Pleiades long before the first encounter between Humans and Thargoids..
So they learned it and used it.. Perhaps.. :)

(Like that Futurama episode on where the aliens missed the last chapter of a series and invades the earth 1000 years before the airing of the series, demanding to see the ending episode)
 

Mordechon

Mordechon
subhouse07 said:
Of course I could be wrong but I don't think FDev made it that way for our convenience. After all the talk about "making the aliens truly alien" it would seem a little strange for them to say "well completely alien except they know morse." I think there's gotta be a darned good reason for it like human involvement. How else would the UA know our system names? Until the relation between the thargoid ships and the unknown ______ becomes clear, I think they are the product of some human meddling. Probably by the group now thought to be inra who were trying to cover this up.
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I thought human involvement was Canon. This update is The Return. We've encountered the Thargoids before...
 
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