Alien archeology and other mysteries: Thread 10 - The Canonn

CMDR Codexghost · Jun 29, 2017

Wace said:
It somewhat works with the last one as well. The problem is the middle one as I was searching the galaxy map (or whatever exists in edsm) for suitable planets, HIP 14909 kept popping up as a candidate for both the first and last bits of coordinates. However I couldn't find a system that would fit the middle bits of coordinates. The best I could come up with is:

(The percentage is the error as a percentage of the Col70-Merope distance)

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First group: Mel 22 Sector ZU-P c5-1 ------------------------------------ Merope: 136.580083 (-0.02%) HIP 14909: 26.941161 (-0.007%) Col 70: 836.592905 (+0.05%) Second group: Mel 22 Sector NX-U d2-33 -------------------------------------- Merope: 127.697097 (+0.2%) HIP 14909: 28.109822 (+0.1%) Col70: 825.827712 (+0.3%) Third group: Mel 22 Sector NX-U d2-27 ------------------------------------- Merope: 131.181898 (-0.04%) HIP 14909: 34.739277 (-0.01%) Col70: 816.147941 (+0.0004%)

The 0.1-0.3 % error doesn't seem that high until you consider the fact that the Link is able to specify coordinates within 1/1000th (0.1%) of Col70-Merope distance - thus the error should never be larger than +/- 0.05%.

If the probe was measuring distances from Mel 22 d2-33, this would result in the following fractions:

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Merope: 127.697097 / 871.018424 = 0.1466 = 147 / 1000, actual 144 / 1000 (represented as 18 / 125) HIP 14909: 28.109822 / 871.018424 = 0.0323 = 32 / 1000, actual 31 / 1000 Col70: 825.827713 / 871.018424 = 0.9481 = 948 / 1000, actual 945 / 1000 (represented as 189 / 200)

Don't suppose there exists an unmapped system within couple of light years from d2-33?

Jumping there now.

CMDR Codexghost · Jun 29, 2017

Wace said:
Don't suppose there exists an unmapped system within couple of light years from d2-33?

Tertiary star system with four landfall planets all quite a ways from the main star. Nearest system in game is Mel 22 sector NX-U D2-34 at 7.43ly

Wace · Jun 29, 2017

Bioann said:
To recap :
Asuming that the second system for the coordinates is the one at the origin of the unknown link ( HIP 14909 )

We have,
Set 1 : Mel 22 sector ZU-P C5-1
Set 2 : Mel 22 sector NX-U D2-31 this one don't match perfectly with the coordinates i've found but when you check the distance with merope Col and hip 14909 it's very very close
Set 3 : HIP 15668

HIP 15668 has relative error of 0.3% / 0.4% / -0.4%. The Link could do a lot better reporting the distances. Mel 22 Sector NX-U d2-27 is more likely candidate.

Hfarl · Jun 29, 2017

Wace said:
HIP 15668 has relative error of 0.3% / 0.4% / -0.4%. The Link could do a lot better reporting the distances. Mel 22 Sector NX-U d2-27 is more likely candidate.

D2-27 is also the closest I got while using my CAD "skills".

Wace · Jun 29, 2017

Hfarl said:
D2-27 is also the closest I got while using my CAD "skills".

Er, my bad. D2-27 is the candidate for the last group of coordinates. D2-33 or D2-29 are the best candidates I came up with for the second group. Both have an error above the 0.05% treshold though:

D2-33: +0.2%, -0.2%, +0.3%
D2-29: +0.3%, +0.1%, +0.3%

Bioann · Jun 29, 2017

Yes i just edit my post

Wace · Jun 29, 2017

Wace said:
Er, my bad. D2-27 is the candidate for the last group of coordinates. D2-33 or D2-29 are the best candidates I came up with for the second group. Both have an error above the 0.05% treshold though:

D2-33: +0.2%, -0.2%, +0.3%
D2-29: +0.3%, +0.1%, +0.3%

Oh screw this. I don't even know what I'm replying to anymore.

We were discussing the last group so yes, D2-27.

The middle group is the one which has no suitable answer even if there's a pile of systems close by.

Hfarl · Jun 29, 2017

Wace said:
Er, my bad. D2-27 is the candidate for the last group of coordinates. D2-33 or D2-29 are the best candidates I came up with for the second group. Both have an error above the 0.05% treshold though:

D2-33: +0.2%, -0.2%, +0.3%
D2-29: +0.3%, +0.1%, +0.3%

Sorry yes, that's what I meant. D2-27 for the last set of coordinates.

Kaltern · Jun 29, 2017

D2-34 is an asteroid field and one ice planet. Nothing remarkable.

Bioann · Jun 29, 2017

Well i have the same conclusion dear colleague.

BDC · Jun 29, 2017

aDuckOnQuack said:
Would just like to add, if it wasn't already known, that it's more than just the Ancient Relic you can add to the Thargon Device.
http://imgur.com/a/VxtUr
You can add the Ancient:
-Totem
-Tablet
-Casket
Adding these 3 will result in the device glowing orange. It does nothing more until you scan it with your SRV. Doing so produces the same orange beam of doom you get from the relic. Here's a 20s clip of me showing exactly this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaR8fajm-88&feature=youtu.be

Only guardian tech here, and a human scan. It seems the thargoids don't like ANYTHING to do with the guardians...

Need to determine if the machine is hostile specifically and only to Guardian tech or does it become antagonistic with *any piece* that doesn't fit the respective hologram request...

Bioann · Jun 29, 2017

Maybe we could jump between the first and the third and hope being hyperdicted on the 2nd ^^

Hfarl · Jun 29, 2017

Wait, so the first set of coordinates led us to Mel 22 Sector ZU-P C5-1, which had frequent UA spawns? The UA is also shown next to the number 1 in the spectrogram. Coincidence?

I wonder if we should grab a UA in that system and see where it points?

Then do the same with the UL and UP in the systems for the second and third sets, respectively?

[EDIT] It's probably just coincidence.

CMDR Ofan · Jun 29, 2017

Bioann said:
Maybe we could jump between the first and the third and hope being hyperdicted on the 2nd ^^

I know you guys have a strong basis to look around the merope end but what do you get crunching the numbers at the col 70 end? Does anything match that way?

Kaltern · Jun 29, 2017

Unless there is a space McDonalds over Col 70 way, I ain't going there in my 20ly limited corvette lol

CMDR Ofan · Jun 29, 2017

Kaltern said:
Unless there is a space McDonalds over Col 70 way, I ain't going there in my 20ly limited corvette lol

Lord no, fly something fast to orion and transfer to the shipyard there!

Kaltern · Jun 29, 2017

D2-29 has 7 bodies with a couple of moons.. all bloody ice. It's cold here.

Bioann · Jun 29, 2017

CMDR Ofan said:
I know you guys have a strong basis to look around the merope end but what do you get crunching the numbers at the col 70 end? Does anything match that way?

In fact we have three set of coordinate matching so it could be a coincidence but it would be BIG one
the only problem is the second sate of coordinates wich don't match a system

Han Zulu · Jun 29, 2017

artigan99 said:
Same with me today. I tried the ape808 method. I rarely saw *any* USS. It was quite frustrating. I finally got one after about 5 hours of trying. They are a bit too rare, I think.

Yes. Waaaay too hard. It would be okay if there was a better signal when you get an USS so you can at least look away from the screen for a bit. But I don't dare watching tv or even read posts on this forum because I almost missed two USSs being distracted.

I find searching for rare materials on a planet pre 2.3.10 was hard, yet it was more entertaining and actually easier. I could find some of the hardest to find within an hour at least in first try. But this... urgh. I might use my second account as a bank now. Store all the hard items in the ship there.

CMDR Ofan · Jun 29, 2017

Bioann said:
In fact we have three set of coordinate matching so it could be a coincidence but it would be BIG one
the only problem is the second sate of coordinates wich don't match a system

I don't think you guys are wrong, to the point that I have been flying around that region for some time too, but I wonder if it's worth considering that its odd the UL seems to be transmitting to something inside the UA shell rather than outside of it according to these coords.