Alien archeology and other mysteries: Thread 10 - The Canonn

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[VR]tailgunner30uk

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Hi All. Some thoughts.

If the UL points, then where is it pointing. Is it towards the planet with the wreck, then placing this combination in one of the other systems might point to the planet containing wrecks. Alternatively, they might point to a specific system, the three bearings obtained indicating a point of origin to investigate. I would do this myself but
I am at work and when I get home I have to find 21 modular terminals to unlock Quent, to get to Palin and unlock him so that I can purchase the CR cargo racks and rejoin the hunt.

o7 CMDRs Good hunting
 
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Asadaine

Asadaine
JesusRocks1988 said:
HOLD ON A MINUTE! My friend and I jettisoned all 3 of them together in the HIP 14909 Distress Call yesterday and played the hive signal to them and they did nothing... what's different here? Maybe they need to be in close proximity? Maybe the PP server downtime added something?
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Had they all been through the unknown device? Maybe that count's for something, calibration or somesuch.
 

CMDR Codexghost

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Catching up after sleeping for a while. Glad to wake up to good news. Excellent work by everyone!!!!

A couple observations from last night:
* The math I used previously which worked for HIP 14909 failed for the Mel systems. I suspect due to relative distances or some issue in Excel. Anyway - the methods used by Wace and Bioann were fantastic and should be the go-to methods - kudos for the excellent math there!

Now to put on my tinfoil hat a little:

Am I correct that the coordinates so far have been all from ULs - at different times perhaps? If so... This, plus the beam from the UL seem to solve the spectragram - it provides instructions for triangulating between Col 70, HIP 14909, and Merope, plus may indicate the UL produces a direct beam.

Annotated spectragram showing this: http://imgur.com/6XerJLw

Since the coordinate sets continue to be different my theory is that the end point may not be a single system, but a moving target... Perhaps (tinfoil) a thargoid capital ship (/tinfoil). And the resulting systems it has passed through now have bases / many UAs. Is there evidence for this? I can't get in game for a few hours... so here are some potential things to investigate I think:

* Do the systems identified by the sets of coordinates form any kind of line?
* Does the distance form each system to Sol consistently decrease?
* If it is a moving target... Can we predict based on the coordinate path, the next set of potential systems?
* Perhaps we should start recording date / time when the UL data is retrieved...
* The beam from the Mel systems... if it is close, this may point accurately to a nearby system?
 

CMDR Ofan

CMDR Ofan
rizal72 said:
HIP 14909

Perhaps it's needed to be done close to the planet, and the UL points to the Settlement itself?
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Could be, I was several systems away. Dropped all 3 let them settle, and played all the messages repeatedly till all 3 items degraded and died , nothing :( Maybe this is how FD want us to find the bases rather than scan by eyeball. I'm thinking in lore this is how the goids find their bases, maybe the spectros were never meant for us and the most recent one is simply instruction for goids to find each other?

Saying that my UA was fresh and had not been through the unknown device! Time to go test that out.
 
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rizal72

rizal72
MAYBE THE SERVER DOWNTIME IS A THING.

FD told us that the Thargoid Mystery will be unfolding step by step: given how fast we solved this part, perhaps they are just starting to unfold it...
I mean they added this new behavior with the downtime above perhaps?
 

ubit

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rizal72 said:
That's ok, but I bet there are at least, don't know, how many? Another thousand systems with the same configuration?
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Not in eddb. My data is half a year old (i am currently updating) and this was the very only system in eddb database that matches. All other systems have belts, rings, more or less planets.

How can i decide from the name if 2 planets are binary or planet+moon?

Ciao, Udo
 

xdemetrios

xdemetrios
tailgunner30uk said:
Hi All. Some thoughts.

If the UL points, then where is it pointing. Is it towards the planet with the wreck, then placing this combination in one of the other systems might point to the planet containing the wreck. Alternatively, they might point to a specific system, the three bearings obtained indicating a point of origin to investigate. I would do this myself but
I am at work and when I get home I have to find 21 modular terminals to unlock Quent, to get to Palin and unlock him so that I can purchase the CR cargo racks and rejoin the hunt.

o7 CMDRs Good hunting
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It isn't pointing towards the planet. I jettisoned it last night next to the planet 2 A and definitely didn't point towards it. Again, it's pointing towards the bottom plane of the formidine rift area, or at least in that direction.
 

LordZoltan

LordZoltan
So, the UL does this in the same system where the active wreckage is, HIP14909.

Will it do the same in the new MEL location, or perhaps the other old ones? If so, then it should provide a way to nail the system it's pointing to, unless some clever person manages to brute force it :)

It's just that with the UA, moving it around and observing where it pointed provided the key to figuring out exactly which system. Right now we have a line with millions of systems to consider :)
 
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Jmanis

Jmanis
So, I've got six sites noted down, but I'm missing the coords for one, can anyone help out?
HIP 14909: 2 A Lat: -26.44 Long: -27.47
HIP 19026: PLANET B 1 C Lat: -17.9526 Long: -152.6844
Aries Dark Region DB-X D1-63 A 7 A Lat: 25.94 Long: 77.96
Pleiades Sector OS-U C2-7 4 A Lat: 58.21 Long: -177.04
MEL 22 SECTOR ZU-P C5-1 4 A LAT: -63.5 LONG 8.02
Col 285 Sector CV-Y d57 AB 4a - ???
 

GreyAreaUK

GreyAreaUK
rizal72 said:
MAYBE THE SERVER DOWNTIME IS A THING.

FD told us that the Thargoid Mystery will be unfolding step by step: given how fast we solved this part, perhaps they are just starting to unfold it...
I mean they added this new behavior with the downtime above perhaps?
Click to expand...

Heh. I get the feeling that someone at FDev is going "Crapcrapcrapcrapcrapcrap they're solving it too fast.....!"
 

JesusRocks1988

JesusRocks1988
ubit said:
Not in eddb. My data is half a year old (i am currently updating) and this was the very only system in eddb database that matches. All other systems have belts, rings, more or less planets.

How can i decide from the name if 2 planets are binary or planet+moon?

Ciao, Udo
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If they're binary they'll be numbered planets. If it's a moon, there'll be a letter after the planet number. So, (planet) 5 and (planet) 6, or (planet) 5 and (moon) 5 A
 

TheHavoc

TheHavoc
CMDR Codexghost said:
Catching up after sleeping for a while. Glad to wake up to good news. Excellent work by everyone!!!!

A couple observations from last night:
* The math I used previously which worked for HIP 14909 failed for the Mel systems. I suspect due to relative distances or some issue in Excel. Anyway - the methods used by Wace and Bioann were fantastic and should be the go-to methods - kudos for the excellent math there!

Now to put on my tinfoil hat a little:

Am I correct that the coordinates so far have been all from ULs - at different times perhaps? If so... This, plus the beam from the UL seem to solve the spectragram - it provides instructions for triangulating between Col 70, HIP 14909, and Merope, plus may indicate the UL produces a direct beam.

Annotated spectragram showing this: http://imgur.com/6XerJLw

Since the coordinate sets continue to be different my theory is that the end point may not be a single system, but a moving target... Perhaps (tinfoil) a thargoid capital ship (/tinfoil). And the resulting systems it has passed through now have bases / many UAs. Is there evidence for this? I can't get in game for a few hours... so here are some potential things to investigate I think:

* Do the systems identified by the sets of coordinates form any kind of line?
* Does the distance form each system to Sol consistently decrease?
* If it is a moving target... Can we predict based on the coordinate path, the next set of potential systems?
* Perhaps we should start recording date / time when the UL data is retrieved...
* The beam from the Mel systems... if it is close, this may point accurately to a nearby system?
Click to expand...

WOW - maybe a wing of 3 has to do that at the same time but far away from each other to get a triangulation ? Intersection of 3 beams then could be the jackpot.
 

CookieJarviz

CookieJarviz
rizal72 said:
MAYBE THE SERVER DOWNTIME IS A THING.

FD told us that the Thargoid Mystery will be unfolding step by step: given how fast we solved this part, perhaps they are just starting to unfold it...
I mean they added this new behavior with the downtime above perhaps?
Click to expand...


I said that... :(
 

Judikator

J
Vall said:
Oh boy.

Mykl summed it well in the post above.
HIP 14909

1. Jettison all 3 Unknowns (UL, UP, UA)
2. Wait for them to settle
3. Play the Hive msg.
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this works also with three UL's and you see a clear triangular shape that center the line to a system maybe
 

rizal72

rizal72
Jmanis said:
So, I've got six sites noted down, but I'm missing the coords for one, can anyone help out?
HIP 14909: 2 A Lat: -26.44 Long: -27.47
HIP 19026: PLANET B 1 C Lat: -17.9526 Long: -152.6844
Aries Dark Region DB-X D1-63 A 7 A Lat: 25.94 Long: 77.96
Pleiades Sector OS-U C2-7 4 A Lat: 58.21 Long: -177.04
MEL 22 SECTOR ZU-P C5-1 4 A LAT: -63.5 LONG 8.02
Col 285 Sector CV-Y d57 AB 4a - ???
Click to expand...

Col 285 Sector CV-Y d57 AB 4a LAT: -63.5 LONG: 8.02
 
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