Alien archeology and other mysteries: Thread 10 - The Canonn

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NanoExplorer

NanoExplorer
CMDR Codexghost said:
This does appear to be new. Can you elaborate a little more on the "top message produced by the site.." please?

Edit: So maybe not new, but still interested.

What is the discord for this - something you could PM me, Vall?
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When I scanned the site in Mel 22 Sector NX-U d2-27 I got three new messages in my inbox. When I played the top one to the UL it gave me a new set of octals that led to the YU-F B11-1 site.

It is active, too. I can't believe I forgot to mention that!
 

slartybartfast

slartybartfast
rizal72 said:
Here's when the Canonn private group comes in handy ;)

On a second note, last night I was in mobius group, going to set up the show inside the mothership (yes, mothership) for some commanders waiting there for me: it was not possible as a Cutter was blowing everyone away. Even in mobius. No religion anymore. Thanks god my DBX (I always fly in cheap ships despite my Anie and Corvette) can reach "ludicrous speeds" with ease ;)
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It would be if you ever get accepted in, been waiting over a year for someone to do it. i have asked and it never happens.
 

CMDR Dreamstate

CMDR Dreamstate
NanoExplorer said:
When I scanned the site in Mel 22 Sector NX-U d2-27 I got three new messages in my inbox. When I played the top one to the UL it gave me a new set of octals that led to the YU-F B11-1 site.

It is active, too. I can't believe I forgot to mention that!
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Scan that new active one and it *should* give you 3 more audio logs :)

edit; so, does that take the total number of audio logs up to 15?
 

Bunkerkind Anni

Bunkerkind Anni
new to the topic

i just wondered - if the thargoid machine reacts violently to guardian relics -> what happens if you are hyperdicted and scanned with one in your cargo?
 

Edelgard von Rhein

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A thought from reading the front page description of getting the co-ordinates of systems from the UL: is the second reference system the system you are in at the time? The new sound diagram seems to be saying: part 1 is Unknown Artefact and points at Merope, part 3 is Unknown Probe and references Col 70 Sector FY-N c21-3 (which I guess looks like the system on the right hand side) but there is no system for part 2, the Unknown Link, so my guess is that it's using the system you're activating it in as a reference.
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If this guess is correct, then by moving to four different systems and using the same message, you will be able to get four different distances to the new system being indicated by the UL, allowing you to locate it regardless of the direction the UL is pointing in.
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Not found a UP yet but logged off not far from an Ammonia World so I can try again tomorrow or whenever I'm next on. Then I'll have a go at testing this for myself.
 

M. Volgrand

M. Volgrand
I have an important observation to make.

So, when we first discovered that the UAs used morse code, the generalized thought was that it was a game decission. After all, if FD had used a trully alien code, we could have been years trying to decode just the UA.

However, do you remember what Braben said in last E3? That he wanted the aliens to be "trully alien"?

Well, this leads me to think that the morse code used by the aliens is not a game design decission, but an story driven choice

This has a direct implication: Somehow, the aliens had interacted with the humans before. Maybe in the war, maybe somehow else, but they got our morse code and used it in the devices we have found.

What does that mean? It means that we have not been uncovering the alien secrets, but rather we have been following the clues they left for us. And this actually seems to correlate with every time an alien ship appeared. Its like it is indicating us that we are in the right way, first with our presence in the Pleiades, and then "scanning" the commanders and the alien motherships.

So, it looks like the aliens are guiding us... somewhere.

But why leaving so complex clues? Isn't there an easier way?

A very interesting observation made by cmdr Maya Fey is that it doesn't actually make sense. It is such a subtle message that looks like it was meant for the humans to find it.

What if there are humans involved?

Maybe there are humans involved in all this, using the alien ships to try to communicate with us. Maybe the thargoids and the humans became, somehow, "cultural hybrids". Maybe... there are a reign of possibilities here.


But just have something very clear in mind: Most likely we are not unfolding the alien secrets. Most likely, we are just following the clues they left us for some reason.

Whatever is at the end of the rabbit hole... is still a mistery. But be prepared, for those aliens have known about us for way longer than we do realize.
 

rizal72

rizal72
Thatchinho said:
Also MB said the use of morse was deliberate (still leaving things open to interpretation admittedly).

But I've been thinking about various things and have some speculation on the use of morse.

So, the new spectrogram, along with all the statements about DB/FD trying to make the Thargoids truly alien, has me wondering - do the Thargoids experience sound differently to us? Perhaps they can in some way see/hear spectrograms and rather than the information being in spectrograms for concealement it is actually one of their inherent ways of communicating.

So into the use of morse. If the above is correct than human language could well be completely alien to Thargoids, possibly to such an extent that they do not even realise there is any communication taking place. Morse, however, would be recognisable in 'spectrogrammic' as a means of communication.

Unless I've completely misunderstood Jmanis's explanation of the morse used by the UA then that version of morse would be more clear in 'spectrogrammic' than normal morse, which would partially explain the use of the stylised version.

Disclaimer - I'm not an expert in either morse of spectrograms, so I'm certainly not saying the above paragraph as an authoritative statement. If anyone is an expert and can confirm whether it's correct or wrong then that'd be great. If not it should be possible to test the hypothesis fairly readily.

Admittedly, if correct, this still only offers an explanation of why morse and not other forms of human language, and doesn't answer the bigger question of why they're using a human form of communication, but it's a start.
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Ok I'll tell you why.

They're using morse only because IT'S A TRAP!
They WANT us to find UA UPs and family, they want us to visit the ships, they want us to do things with their toys, because IT'LL BE US TO LET THEM IN. Troyan hoses. Meanwhile they are watching, scanning us, not attacking us.
They knew very well Federal Blink Code, and they are using it against us, but using their Alienish declination of it.

That's why IT'S DELIBERATE. ;)
 
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