Alien archeology and other mysteries: Thread 10 - The Canonn

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Well, what we're driving on is actually the backside of the ship, not the ground itself. The sand below our wheels is most possibly the settled dust from the impact. Furthermore, some seem to have been buried deeper into the ground than others. Or that was my impression at least when taking a birds eye view of the Aries site (#2).


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At what point does this become visible? Is it visible from Orbital Supercruise or do you have to be in real time for it to become visible? I forgot to take note of it when I visited the last one.
 
arrived at the last discovered site...

guys... what the hell is that ?

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they are so huuuuge, i can enter with my ASP inside of those ''arms''
 
Thanks CMDR Greyarea for letting me in at Mel 22 Sector YU-F B11-1 AB 5A, and apologies for the stupid comments, this was a long day...

To my untrained eyes, this certainly looks like a mothership that is being repaired by the scavengers.


 
There's another explanation for this, a bit convoluted but I had this idea when I saw the FDev artbook and the UA cutaway. I think UAs are human-thargoid hybrid technology, put together to work around the mycoid virus problem. As I see it, the UAs are a derivative of another thargoid tech piece, the Unknown probe (an older reconnaisance device who encodes information in thargoid octal code, as the mothership map machine), designed as a quick workaround to put a warning system around Pleiades nebula, developed after the thargoid retreat and maybe with human assistance. Human tech incorporated to the UA could help to make it hardened against a mycoid infested envinroment near our bubble, but they had to make some shorcuts and incorporate a human interface language to make it functional. Also, I think thargoids requested human help for the initial deployment of the UAs. After that, they managed to make the UPs immune to the mycoid fungus and redeployed it around Pleiades looking for survivors? wreck sites? in the ammonia worlds of the nebula.

So, we have two different types of thargoid devices: the UP, a reconnaissance and long range communication device and the UL, a combination of emergency communication system and beacon. And the UP, a short-range hybrid scanning gadget. How did the thargoids collected information from the UAs? why is Merope important?. That's some questions I'd like to know the answer.

EDIT: A couplpe of days ago, I was pretty sure that UAs were human reverse-engineered tech as the only way to alert the bubble about the thargoids' return to Pleiades, but... well, the map machines changed my mind..

Yeah, and I've always been a proponent of the UA's being a combination of human and alien tech (primarily the humans reverse-engineering alien tech version, the same as you).

Currently though I'm going from FD's statement that the UAs are Thargoid.

Agreed on the questions.

Sorry for my poor english.

To be honest, I couldn't tell that you weren't a native speaker! :D
 
I quite literally went a couple of systems away from another site, noticed it had an ammonia world, went to that world but they're all ice planets so went to the first rocky planet in the system and starting looking around in orbital cruise and noticed a green blob. Just luck I guess!



Oops, missed the word wrap :)

I wouldn't say that's luck. That's kind of the best way to go about it absent any direct hints or tips. They seemed to be condensed in this area of space. So bouncing around looking for ammonia planets and checking out the moons nearby is a good plan B
 
Yeah, and I've always been a proponent of the UA's being a combination of human and alien tech (primarily the humans reverse-engineering alien tech version, the same as you).

Currently though I'm going from FD's statement that the UAs are Thargoid.

Agreed on the questions.



To be honest, I couldn't tell that you weren't a native speaker! :D


Yeah, I changed my mind after the map machine discoveries, Thargoids developed them incorporating our tech. Edited my previous post for clarity.
 
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Looks like i've decoded all 3 transmissions from site 7:

Code:
Transmission 1:

HLH HLH | HHL LLL LHL
010 010 | 001 111 101
18 | 125
0.144

HHL | HHL LHH LHH
001 | 001 100 100
1 | 100
0.01

HLH LLL LHL | HLL HHL HHH
010 111 101 | 011 001 010
189 | 202
0.945

0.144 | 0.01 | 0.945

Transmission 2:
HLH HLL LHL | HHL LLL LHL HHH
010 011 101 | 001 111 101 000
157 | 1000
0.157

HLL HLL | HHL LLL LHL HHH
011 011 | 001 111 101 000
27 | 1000
0.027

HLL HHH | HLL HHL
011 000 | 011 001
24 | 25
0.96

0.157 | 0.027 | 0.96

Transmission 3:

HHL HHL LHL | LLL LLH LHH
001 001 101 | 111 110 100
77 | 500
0.154

HLL | HHL LHH LHH
011 | 001 100 100
3 | 100
0.03

HHL LLH HHL LHL | HHL LLL LHL HHH
001 110 001 101 | 001 111 101 000
909 | 1000
0.909

0.154 | 0.03 | 0.909

I hope i didn't make any mistakes, so which one led to site 9 ?

Mel 22 Sector YU-F B11-1
planet AB 5 A
lat/lon -52 / -5.68

I've decoded this.

from top to bottom:

Mel 22 Sector NX-U d2-31
Mel 22 Sector ZU-P c5-1
Mel 22 Sector YU-F b11-1
 
Hey, so what's this then:

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It's from the sound received from base #9, happend to notice what looks like a data burst just after the image.

I slowed down the sound by half (0.5 speed) to try and transcribe the UL more easily, and the above jumped out at me - looks like the alien numbering system but not in any order used in the main message.

Databurst clearly visible here after the visual image.

I think It's actually echoed at different sizes/frequencies across the whole message (remember the comms technician's clue that started all this?).

Someone with some skill may be able to tweak the image/sound enough to get a clear reading.

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* I only recorded one message, the first one from base #9 Mel 22 Sector YU-F B11-1 AB 5 A before my link exploded (doh).

If someone wants to try transcribing, here it is
 
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I've decoded this.

from top to bottom:

Mel 22 Sector NX-U d2-31
Mel 22 Sector ZU-P c5-1
Mel 22 Sector YU-F b11-1

Oh thank you ! I didn't find a way how to calculate the exact system yet. What are you using if it's not a secret ?
And looks like i have time now to decode more messages. Where i should go, since there are already 11 wrecks ? Or you have everything covered already ? :))
 
Hey Wace, have you checked if the total 'error' in the three coordinates matches the distance from the system main star to the wreak site?

There's not much point as the error is caused by lack of resolution. Think of it as the ULs saying "That system is 423 light years away" while in reality it's 423.4 light years away. That's an error of 0.4 light years but it's still the best we can expect from it.

The reason the errors were listed is because they're a quick way to figure out whether the measurements make sense. If the UL said "System is 321 light years away" it would make no sense for us to suspect it points to a system 320.2 light years away as that would give us an error of 0.8 (= 321 - 320.2) and we know the UL could do better. If it really meant the system 320.2 light years away it would have said "320", giving an error of 0.2 which is well within the margin of error caused by the available resolution.
 
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