Open Letter to the Prime Minister: Please clarify today's revelations

[Mangal Oemie]

Dear Prime Minister Mahon,

I write you today from the Alliance Southern border lands, where daily we hold back the corruption and oppression of the Federation. While I am an Alliance diplomat from the AEDC, I write you on personal title, as a CMDR daily supporting the largest factions in the Alliance by whatever means possible.

I am deeply disturbed by the new revelations found containing Salome's last messages. This includes:

"The Alliance and Federation were collaborating behind the scenes. Tsu exposed it, and they ostracised her and left her at the mercy of bounty hunters. The Alliance is no innocent bystander. They know what happened."

I demand you answer these allegations to the satisfaction of Alliance citizens. Please clarify:

- What level of collaboration exists between the Alliance and Federation?
- What end serves this collaboration?
- Why did any collaboration take place in secret, without debate, or consultation with Alliance constituents?
- Will you release any recordings or transcripts of Tsu Singh's debriefing?
- What is the role of Federation President Halsey in this, and in your administration?
- Is the Council of Admirals aware of this collaboration?
- Is the Alliance Assembly?

Please answer carefully and truthfully. Many Alliance citizens already have long suspected you of caring more about your own power than the Alliance itself, and your love for Federation and Independent corporates over Alliance factions of the "wrong government" have long been a concern, and your credibility is on the line.

Should your answers not be satisfactory, I will petition the Council of Admirals for your impeachment and removal. This is a very serious matter.

CMDR Mangal Oemie
Alliance Diplomat

 

[JohnRoberts]

Go ask Andy Gill about the ethics of your Alliance. Probably get more out of his widow, though. You think your admirals arent involvec too?

Singularity fights for everyone, even the unknown and forgotten victims of human experimentation.

https://twitter.com/jrrevelator/status/880486766641385473

 

[Nicou]

[HRP]
I second this, we need an official statement from our Prime Minister
Thank you Mangal.

 

[FredReynolds]

What he said ^

 

[[Diplomacy] Carnegie]

Dear Prime Minister Mahon,

<snip>

Alliance Diplomat

Imperial murderess and head of terrorist faction claims Federation and Alliance are collaborating.

She always was such a reliable witness. Absolutely no possibility of an ulterior motive in this unsubstantiated claims.

 

[Schlack]

No puppet, no puppet, you're the puppet.

 

[SubitusNex]

I too am deeply concerned about the direction of our beloved Alliance.
This is not what have fought for, or why we've helped liberate so many systems, often at deep personal expense.

I will call my nearest Admiral's representative to inquire you about these actions. The Council of Admiral's powers come from the pilots they control, and yours, Prime Minister, is only a reflection upon that instrument.

As one of those pilots I demand clarification from you, or I shall seek to the highest degree possible to me that you be held accountable for these perturbing actions.

I do not condone the Federation's actions and so I must also state my absolute abhorrence to this cooperation until proven to be within the legitimate benefit to the Alliance and its constituents.

If this is but a power grabbing strategy, I must insist upon a petition to the Council of Admirals for your immediate destitution.

CMDR Subitus Nex
Veteran of the Leesti Liberation Fleet

 

[yodajedifishmaster]

manipulation i sense, behind the scenes, by a third power. who gains from the rumour? the empire? or perhaps too easy that answer is. from outside your bubble could there be others who conflict between all humanity would serve.

 

[Apos]

The Alliance has doubled in size since game release. This has been done, in the majority, in the expense of Federal control over systems.

The Prime Minister's #1 position in Power Play has, also, been mostly a detriment to the Federals. To the point where they actually attacked Mahon in order to grab systems to help them fight the Imps. Mahon's success was a blow to Federal powers.

The Federal attack on Mahon was not only unsuccessful, but it included a retaliation strategy, which included aggressive expansions within Hudson space. Those expansions still exist and hamper Hudson's economy as reminders of the economic clash.

If the Alliance and the Federation are collaborating, then FD hasn't been paying attention to what the players have been up to. So if they want to remain sincere to their player driven galaxy, this better be a conspiracy theory.

However, the Prime Minister might have to at least release a statement. And hey, maybe send Halsey back to Hudson as she is a potential collaborator to these claims.

 

[Crash1099]

Dear Prime Minister Mahon,

I write you today from the Alliance Southern border lands, where daily we hold back the corruption and oppression of the Federation. While I am an Alliance diplomat from the AEDC, I write you on personal title, as a CMDR daily supporting the largest factions in the Alliance by whatever means possible.

I am deeply disturbed by the new revelations found containing Salome's last messages. This includes:

"The Alliance and Federation were collaborating behind the scenes. Tsu exposed it, and they ostracised her and left her at the mercy of bounty hunters. The Alliance is no innocent bystander. They know what happened."

I demand you answer these allegations to the satisfaction of Alliance citizens. Please clarify:

- What level of collaboration exists between the Alliance and Federation?
- What end serves this collaboration?
- Why did any collaboration take place in secret, without debate, or consultation with Alliance constituents?
- Will you release any recordings or transcripts of Tsu Singh's debriefing?
- What is the role of Federation President Halsey in this, and in your administration?
- Is the Council of Admirals aware of this collaboration?
- Is the Alliance Assembly?

Please answer carefully and truthfully. Many Alliance citizens already have long suspected you of caring more about your own power than the Alliance itself, and your love for Federation and Independent corporates over Alliance factions of the "wrong government" have long been a concern, and your credibility is on the line.

Should your answers not be satisfactory, I will petition the Council of Admirals for your impeachment and removal. This is a very serious matter.

CMDR Mangal Oemie
Alliance Diplomat

Looks like the Empire is clean on this. HA HA.

 

[SubitusNex]

manipulation i sense, behind the scenes, by a third power. who gains from the rumour? the empire? or perhaps too easy that answer is. from outside your bubble could there be others who conflict between all humanity would serve.

Aren't you supposed to be in another galaxy, and dead? (sorry I feel my immersion so broken now) Ahah.

 

[the100thmonkey]

The Alliance has doubled in size since game release. This has been done, in the majority, in the expense of Federal control over systems.

It's not like there are hundreds of Imp systems crying out for Alliance "liberation" though, are there?

Location, location, location.

I'm not surprised about Mahon - his fetish for corporations is a blight on the galaxy. It would therefore hardly qualify as a "revelation" if he were found to be in conspiracy with capitalist and fascist interests against the galactic proletariat.

 

[SubitusNex]

I have a further request for consideration, this time by the Frontier team. I will keep it short and to the point. It is a bit out of topic, but since we're talking about the alliance and federation I thought I'd post.
This is entirely OOC.

As an Alliance pilot I feel marginalized, not by narrative, not by the actions of any one faction but exactly by the lack of that narrative and interaction.
I love this game but I feel railroaded. I feel you have a narrative you want to tell, but in the universe of E players often play it out another way, and I feel those actions go ignored, squandered and sometimes even squashed.
The Alliance has grown immensely. The Alliance has dominated Power Play. The Alliance has shown immense involvement in the background simulation and almost all other aspects of the game.
Yet it is ignored. Almost no narrative. Conflicting information on how its power structures work (in Galnet often). No ships, no ranks, no structure.
I feel we've been alienated from the storiline of the galaxy. Why? I don't know. But if this is supposed to be player centric, this is not how it should go. It feels railroaded.
If this is because Frontier wants to pass a story that the Alliance didn't flourish really until the Thargoids started doing things with them: I'm sorry, we're already doing things, very successfully. If it doesn't fit your intended narrative, adapt it and make around your players. Please do not shove us into tiny boxes that we do not fit into.

I leave you with a video by Matt Colville, a very nice perspective on sandbox vs railroading which I think translates the problem very well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkXMxiAGUWg

But not only are we railroaded, we are ignored.

 

[SubitusNex]

It's not like there are hundreds of Imp systems crying out for Alliance "liberation" though, are there?

Location, location, location.

I'm not surprised about Mahon - his fetish for corporations is a blight on the galaxy. It would therefore hardly qualify as a "revelation" if he were found to be in conspiracy with capitalist and fascist interests against the galactic proletariat.

If this is so, then we need new leadership. This is exactly the reason why we are the Alliance and not the Federation. Systems joined to fight against bureaucracy, oligarchy, ubercapitalism and systemic fascism.

 

[Apos]

It's not like there are hundreds of Imp systems crying out for Alliance "liberation" though, are there?

Location, location, location.

I'm not surprised about Mahon - his fetish for corporations is a blight on the galaxy. It would therefore hardly qualify as a "revelation" if he were found to be in conspiracy with capitalist and fascist interests against the galactic proletariat.

Of course not, it's just a natural outcome.

However I don't think the Feds would be happier about it with the afterthought of "Well, if there were Imp systems around they would have taken those as well."

 

[the100thmonkey]

I have a further request for consideration, this time by the Frontier team. I will keep it short and to the point. It is a bit out of topic, but since we're talking about the alliance and federation I thought I'd post.
This is entirely OOC.

As an Alliance pilot I feel marginalized, not by narrative, not by the actions of any one faction but exactly by the lack of that narrative and interaction.
I love this game but I feel railroaded. I feel you have a narrative you want to tell, but in the universe of E players often play it out another way, and I feel those actions go ignored, squandered and sometimes even squashed.
The Alliance has grown immensely. The Alliance has dominated Power Play. The Alliance has shown immense involvement in the background simulation and almost all other aspects of the game.
Yet it is ignored. Almost no narrative. Conflicting information on how its power structures work (in Galnet often). No ships, no ranks, no structure.
I feel we've been alienated from the storiline of the galaxy. Why? I don't know. But if this is supposed to be player centric, this is not how it should go. It feels railroaded.
If this is because Frontier wants to pass a story that the Alliance didn't flourish really until the Thargoids started doing things with them: I'm sorry, we're already doing things, very successfully. If it doesn't fit your intended narrative, adapt it and make around your players. Please do not shove us into tiny boxes that we do not fit into.

I leave you with a video by Matt Colville, a very nice perspective on sandbox vs railroading which I think translates very well the problem
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkXMxiAGUWg

But not only are we railroaded, we are ignored.

"Traitors to humanity."

Comrade! The Alliance aren't the good guys. There is no hero narrative in this universe, deliberately so. Dialectical materialism has rendered it thus. We're all participants in an interstellar neocorporate/neofeudal dystopia, although some choose to fight. The Alliance is the greasy teat for those who like neither but lack the commitment to reject such ideologies in their entirety and accept that no good can come of such societal structures.

The extent of Alliance treachery, alongside that of the Feds under the dog Hudson and the Imps under the equally contemptible Duval, will become clear soon enough.

 

[Apos]

"Traitors to humanity."

Comrade! The Alliance aren't the good guys. There is no hero narrative in this universe, deliberately so. Dialectical materialism has rendered it thus. We're all participants in an interstellar neocorporate/neofeudal dystopia, although some choose to fight. The Alliance is the greasy teat for those who like neither but lack the commitment to reject such ideologies in their entirety and accept that no good can come of such societal structures.

The extent of Alliance treachery, alongside that of the Feds under the dog Hudson and the Imps under the equally contemptible Duval, will become clear soon enough.

It doesn't have to. We are not necessarily good guys. By far the most expansionist faction in the game. And "good" and "bad" are obviously quite relevant. For the Federation our actions should be quite bad.

The Federation has their machavelian el presidente and a liberal side at the side.
The Empire has their breads and circuses society and representatives and an abolitionist at the side.

They represent their community.

The current Alliance lore DOES NOT represent OUR community, nor what drove most people to support it.

Let us be the expansionist self-proclaimed benevolent thinking zealots that we are.

And it's not like we don't have our own schisms like the other factions for internal debate. There's 2 waves within the Alliance community, one that wants to provide help and protection to independents as soon as they ask for it and a a more hardliner stance that you have to be green to qualify for help and support.

But none of that is reflected, simply because we are the only superpower where FD goes ahead and goes "Lalalalalala, can't hear you!".

 

[the100thmonkey]

The current Alliance lore DOES NOT represent OUR community, nor what drove most people to support it.

So you're saying that you made a mistake in supporting the Alliance?

(OOC: Remember that non-player factions in the game can never represent the players; we are but facilitators for and, in many cases, hangers-on to*, factions that are at least simulated as having their own internal processes.)

Much like a romantic partner, if a faction is later shown to be unpleasant and unlikeable, the best thing to do is to cease all association with them. It is, for all intents and purposes, impossible to change someone's basic character.

Let us be the expansionist self-proclaimed benevolent thinking zealots that we are.

It's quite possible to be that while rejecting treason against sentient life. The facts will lead us forward.


*I have a Sirius permit, for example, even though I hope Lucifer swallows the entire corporation.

 

[Apos]

It's quite possible to be that while rejecting treason against sentient life. The facts will lead us forward.

This is about the Salome thing that got revealed now. Not the Thargoid thing.

Most people are ok with the Alliance stance on Thargoid events so far.

In fact, I doubt anyone cares whether someone in the Alliance wanted Salome dead as well. It's the accusation of "collaboration with the Federation" that the uproar is around.

 

[the100thmonkey]

Salome/Alliance/Fed/Empire/Thargoid/Halsey/brain parasites/cordyceps growths...

They're all connected.

I might be wrong on that, but like I said, the facts will lead us forward.