Alien archeology and other mysteries: Thread 10 - The Canonn

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I am doing Guardians quest at this moment, and i have to say.. There is a sh*t tonns of mentions of something that could have relation with Thargoids.
Yes, there's lots that could be interpreted as having relation to Thargoids, but nothing concrete.
Also plenty of counter-indicators (2Myear time gap, us defeating the Thargoids more than 100 years ago with a bioweapon but the Guardians being far more advanced than us in bioweaponry)

The reaction to the Ancient Artifacts is interesting though.

And there's the reasonable likelihood that Col 70 Sector FY-N C21-3 was within the Guardian bubble.

On the Artifacts, has what happens with the non-Guardian esoteric items like AI relics, etc?


One more item for thought:

Guardians vs Thargoids

Have any of you thought about the:
- Temps of both Guardian worlds where ruins were found and the temps of the bodies where these entities are being found?
- How about the relative gravity of both Guardian and entity bodies?

IF these Thargoids are of Guardian origin, is it not plausible that we should find similar values in both temperature and gravity, if not even star types and content make up of the bodies? Ammonia worlds skew this somewhat, but how about we weed out some other data?

It's probably safe to assume that the worlds we've found Guardian sites on don't represent their preferred temperature ranges or any more than ours would be represented by the non-atmospheric planets that we have bases on.

Guardian biology is basically the same as ours and they appear to have originated on an ELW that was originally hotter and brighter than Earth. If Thargoids are indeed ammonia based then their biology and preferred environments would be very different. Not sure if there's much that could be drawn from comparing the two sets of planets/moons. No harm in trying though.
 
Today's "Thoughts on Thargoids" volume 2:

* It's looking like the three locations encoded into each UL are tied to the source site - that is, if you use differently sourced UAs, UPs, you still get the same three location results - I don't know if this has been directly tested, but if it was inconsistent it seems like it would have come up with all the different searching going on. This would mean that the planetary / system data the UAs / UPs are storing isn't directly tied process. If there is evidence that the three locations from a site changes, or can be changed, that would be a really important discovery.

Is there more significance to HIP 14909 than what we've learned so far? The base here is similar to the others, but this is one of the three star systems used as a long distance reference point. Edit: Nope, because I was incorrect about HIP 14909 being a long distance reference point.

* Any patterns in the link destinations? Does a given site consistently produce three locations that are the three closest additional sites? The spreadsheet looks like it might indicate that - I'll try to prove that one way or the other.

* That there are three locations per site is itself interesting, since we know you need three reference points to trilaterate a position - but I'm struggling to make sense of why one of these sites / ships would use the three closest sites as reference points when all the encoded data references three far away points.

* Perhaps each site is beaconing it's location in a short range, and the signals we get are an extract of those beacon messages received at a given site? This matches with the "unknown signal" detection at the listening posts that led to the HIP 14909 discovery, and also with how the ULs function. However, there would probably be a distance limit to how far away resulting sites could be, and you'd expect some sites to have more or less than three additional sites in range, and it seems to be a very consistent three signals per site. No evidence of those things yet.

* If each site is broadcasting it's own unique signal that encodes its coordinates, this supports the idea that the UL is used for thargoid navigation. A thargoid ship with UL could pick up the broadcasted signal and the UL would let it easily navigate down to the site. That the UL is also in the center of the navigation room, and immediately below an external opening also support this idea.
 
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Hello Commanders,


i need some help. I can't get a grip to the Unknown Link.

What I've done so far:

- Unknown | Probe | Link | Artifact | used to start the Unknown Device
- Got all my stuff back into the ship
- Flew into space almost close to the Planet where the Targoid Base is
- Dropped out the Unknown Link
- Lock it with my Sensors
- Play one of three Messages which I had recived from the Unknown device
- Unknown Link makes stranges sounds but i cannot hear the bleep bloop binary code


Do I have to activade something in the sound-settings or have I done anything wrong?

I would appreciate it if you could help me.


Fly Dangerously o7,

~blue
 
Hello Commanders,


i need some help. I can't get a grip to the Unknown Link.

What I've done so far:

- Unknown | Probe | Link | Artifact | used to start the Unknown Device
- Got all my stuff back into the ship
- Flew into space almost close to the Planet where the Targoid Base is
- Dropped out the Unknown Link
- Lock it with my Sensors
- Play one of three Messages which I had recived from the Unknown device
- Unknown Link makes stranges sounds but i cannot hear the bleep bloop binary code


Do I have to activade something in the sound-settings or have I done anything wrong?

I would appreciate it if you could help me.


Fly Dangerously o7,

~blue

Sit right in front of the dish thing in the middle of the UL listen when it flashes.
 
I haven't got a snowman in hells chance of figuring out the binary whatchamacallits. Think I'll go the old fashioned route of jump and then tickle the UL.

Either that or I'll be on hand to help confirm sites that younawesome lot throw up here!

The binary LISTENING isn't that hard if you put your mind to it.

You can try it with this link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhOHaEFViEM&feature=youtu.be&t=75 (go to 1:15 if the link doesn't take you there).

This is from the Unknown Probe (not Link) but it sounds just the same with the new things.
What you should hear is:
HLL <long pause> HLH HLH HHH HHL <warble> HLL HHL HHH, where H is high note and L is low note. In binary this would be
011 <long pause> 010 010 000 001 | 011 001 000

I find it easiest trying to pay attention to the low beeps that accompany the low notes. The high chirps vary quite a bit but the low notes should always have the "bass" portion with them.

Also it helps a lot having it as a recording, being able to go back and forth and re-check notes that you're not too sure about. Slowing it down might help as well (http://www.youtubeslow.com/watch?v=hhOHaEFViEM) but I think I did do this live in game when I was hunting the audio with the unknown probes.


(The unknown links don't have the first triplet and a long pause, instead they have three times the second portion, as in: 010 001 | 100 010 <pause> 001 | 011 100 <pause> 100 101 | 001 101 111)
 
Hello Commanders,


i need some help. I can't get a grip to the Unknown Link.

What I've done so far:

- Unknown | Probe | Link | Artifact | used to start the Unknown Device
- Got all my stuff back into the ship
- Flew into space almost close to the Planet where the Targoid Base is
- Dropped out the Unknown Link
- Lock it with my Sensors
- Play one of three Messages which I had recived from the Unknown device
- Unknown Link makes stranges sounds but i cannot hear the bleep bloop binary code


Do I have to activade something in the sound-settings or have I done anything wrong?

I would appreciate it if you could help me.


Fly Dangerously o7,

~blue
Position yourself, so that the "satellite" of UL looks directly at you. And stay close to it.
 
The binary LISTENING isn't that hard if you put your mind to it.

You can try it with this link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhOHaEFViEM&feature=youtu.be&t=75 (go to 1:15 if the link doesn't take you there).

This is from the Unknown Probe (not Link) but it sounds just the same with the new things.
What you should hear is:
HLL <long pause> HLH HLH HHH HHL <warble> HLL HHL HHH, where H is high note and L is low note. In binary this would be
011 <long pause> 010 010 000 001 | 011 001 000

I find it easiest trying to pay attention to the low beeps that accompany the low notes. The high chirps vary quite a bit but the low notes should always have the "bass" portion with them.

Also it helps a lot having it as a recording, being able to go back and forth and re-check notes that you're not too sure about. Slowing it down might help as well (http://www.youtubeslow.com/watch?v=hhOHaEFViEM) but I think I did do this live in game when I was hunting the audio with the unknown probes.


(The unknown links don't have the first triplet and a long pause, instead they have three times the second portion, as in: 010 001 | 100 010 <pause> 001 | 011 100 <pause> 100 101 | 001 101 111)

Thank you so much man....awesome stuff. Regretfully though I don't have access to the PC at the no, the Mrs has liberated it for her crappy shows while I search the galaxy. I'll give it a go though tomoz...for now though, guess I'll just have to follow others and hope I can add something.
 
.. while i feel like if this moment is just a huge deja-vu.. (and for me a deja-vu is a sign of the event that is incoming in the soonist future).
i am asking this:

how many of these ''things'' are we going to discover yet ?
 
* Is there more significance to HIP 14909 than what we've learned so far? The base here is similar to the others, but this is one of the three star systems used as a long distance reference point.

HIP 14909 is used as a reference only for the Unknown Link transmissions caused by playing one of the audio logs received on HIP 14909. If you found one of the sites on Sol and received audio logs from there that would result in transmissions from the UL, then Sol would be used as a reference point for these transmissions.
 
could someone give me a "melshell" system to pick up u.a.s in please. Gonna ferry them to the original active sight so people can get inside. :)
 
I guess I know what it does: it paints a 3D figure in space with the UL -> 3 dest points. Connect the lines with source msg and UL dest and it should show.

edit: People will be so disappointed when the first UL point them in circles! They are not recording the Source and 3 Destination Systems - they just want new sites! more .. MORE ... MOOOORE!!11 :)
 
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HIP 14909 is used as a reference only for the Unknown Link transmissions caused by playing one of the audio logs received on HIP 14909. If you found one of the sites on Sol and received audio logs from there that would result in transmissions from the UL, then Sol would be used as a reference point for these transmissions.

Somehow I completely missed this fact. I remember this being suggested but the front page calculation section just states HIP 14909 - maybe an update there is needed?
 
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