General / Off-Topic Trump: Legal Issues (was The Testimony of James Comey)

[Deleted member 115407]

I used youghurt, kefir and caucasian kefir when i decided to drop down some weight, followed by this decision i lost about 15 KG within a summer. 3-4 KG / month.

And not to mention his radical shift in weight was accompanied by a shift from far-right gaston flag antifederalist conservative to the far-left weather-underground anarchist liberal you see today.

 

[Minonian]

And not to mention his radical shift in weight was accompanied by a shift from far-right gaston flag antifederalist conservative to the far-left weather-underground anarchist liberal you see today.

So you saying your diet also influencing your Political view?
Than what are you eating? As a good cannibal Democrat?

 

[Deleted member 115407]

There's accumulating evidence that gut bacteria influence racism, anxiety, and cognition. Prevotella species specifically. Within Western countries, they are also associated with obesity.

So this led me to wonder if American Republicans might be fatter than the other groups. It turns out, that they are.

Nobody has attempted to do bacterial assays on people by political preference that I can find; it might be a useful experiment.

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[Minonian]

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So? What are you trying to say with this? Do you care to tell me?

Or you can alternatively do the smart thing after something like this, and skulk away.

 

[Robin of Spiritwood]

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It's just a query, not a conclusion by any means. If gut bacteria can affect things like human socialization, sexual preferences, mental illnesses, etc, then can they influence our politics?

Look, remember there's a widespread infection rate with cat/rat parasites Toxoplasma in France? It causes the mice to become more sexually promiscuous, to lose their fear of cats. What's it doing to the humans?

The night that Francois Hollande got caught leaving the Presidential Palace to sneak out on a motor scooter at midnight to find his secret girlfriend, I slapped my leg, pointed, and shouted "Toxoplasma!".


- wants dangerous sex
- taking ridiculously high career risks
- both behaviors intended to spread the parasite, benefiting it, not him

It was intended as a joke, of course. But honestly, who knows?

Maybe Bill Clinton had cats as a kid. Maybe Mark Sanford, and John Edwards couldn't help it?

 

[Minonian]

I think its a lil far fetched assumption without solid evidences but i cannot close out especially if we take into consideration there are some known parasites and bacterias whom can actually affect your mood, and influence your behavior and the way how your immune system works. Like Toxoplasmosis gondii, and your usual helminth's

But vindelanos better to watch his mouth because this got very close to the point where the other people can take it seriously.

Edit; And even if you affected by such things, you are still responsible for your own deeds ans a creature whom capable to form independent toughs an make his own decisions, must be capable to deal with such urges.

About helemints? there are some researches whom suggesting they are in defense of themselves suppressing your immune system what can affect its entire working, and in case of allergies this can be even prove to be beneficial.

Edit2; Of course the real question in there why our immune system was over responsive at the first time?

 

[Ian Skippy]

Am I for a multi-billion dollar corporation threatening to dox an individual over a little bit of internet meme butt-hurt?

Frankly I can't imagine anyone being for that.

So, just to be clear:

1) Saying racist, sexist, homophobic garbage is 'free speech'.
2) Saying 'the dude saying all that crap is John' is evil.

Or is it about how much money person 2) has? So if he had been 'doxed' by a dirt-poor guy it would have been okay?

 

[Deleted member 115407]

It's just a query, not a conclusion by any means....

I think its a lil far fetched assumption without solid evidences...
But vindelanos better to watch his mouth because this got very close to the point where the other people can take it seriously.

It was taken and given in good fun

 

[Minonian]

It was taken and given in good fun

Well? As far our eyes not starting to glow?

(Stargate pun intended)

 

[Deleted member 115407]

So, just to be clear:

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...James-Comey)?p=5694625&viewfull=1#post5694625

Already answered.

 

[FuzzySpider]

It's just a query, not a conclusion by any means. If gut bacteria can affect things like human socialization, sexual preferences, mental illnesses, etc, then can they influence our politics?

The implication here is quite profound. You're saying, with some considerable degree of scientific basis, that human beings are the autonomous and self-aware beings we think we are but rather gestalt entities comprised of many different life forms all working as one.

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Look, remember there's a widespread infection rate with cat/rat parasites Toxoplasma in France? It causes the mice to become more sexually promiscuous, to lose their fear of cats. What's it doing to the humans?

It's apparently being blamed for crazy cat lady syndrome at the moment.

 

[Ian Skippy]

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...James-Comey)?p=5694625&viewfull=1#post5694625

Already answered.

Ah, missed it, thanks. Only thing I'd like to throw in is that you seem to think its about criticism, rather than intimidation with violence. Maybe you feel 'its just a meme online so it cant be a threat', nevertheless its a different argument. Plenty of people criticise CNN on a daily basis, this is quite different.

The implication here is quite profound. You're saying, with some considerable degree of scientific basis, that human beings are the autonomous and self-aware beings we think we are but rather gestalt entities comprised of many different life forms all working as one.

Its both.

 

[Robin of Spiritwood]

The implication here is quite profound. You're saying, with some considerable degree of scientific basis, that human beings are (NOT) the autonomous and self-aware beings we think we are but rather gestalt entities comprised of many different life forms all working as one.

It's apparently being blamed for crazy cat lady syndrome at the moment.

If interpreted correctly, there's a "not" implied in your post?

Actually yes. That is exactly what I we are saying.


The implications are long. For instance, it calls into question the nature of "free will". And therefore that undermines both our existing legal framework, and the underpinnings of the most fundamental assumptions of all religions.

Eg: how can a soul exist if it seems to be composed of multiple entities?
Eg: if behavior is compelled by non human organisms, how can we punish it by killing the human but leaving the gut bacteria alone?
Eg: what are the implications for taking antibiotics? Are we disrupting not just human moods and feelings, but changing the nature of the " composite person" in ways we don't understand?

 

[Minonian]

If interpreted correctly, there's a "not" implied in your post?

Actually yes. That is exactly what I we are saying.

The implications are long. For instance, it calls into question the nature of "free will". And therefore that undermines both our existing legal framework, and the underpinnings of the most fundamental assumptions of all religions.

Both of it true. Whenever like it or not, But our nature and psychology is determined by our biology, and hormonic and chemical equilibrium. Our freedom of free will, are lies within the boundaries marked by them. And if Our internal balance is compromised by some sort of substance, or parasite / bacteria /virus or any other way?

YEP! I said virus, Like AIDS whom capable to entirely shut off your immune system. But in case of other creatures i can even say funghi. Anyone heard about Zombie ants?

Spoiler

[video=youtube;2irXpAMBHkE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2irXpAMBHkE[/video]

(slighty related?) War of the worlds, H.G. Welles.

 

[Deleted member 115407]

Ah, missed it, thanks. Only thing I'd like to throw in is that you seem to think its about criticism, rather than intimidation with violence. Maybe you feel 'its just a meme online so it cant be a threat', nevertheless its a different argument. Plenty of people criticise CNN on a daily basis, this is quite different.

There is nothing intimidating or violent about that meme. I know that CNN really wants there to be, because it would really help their narrative, but it's simply a little meme to celebrate a president that refuses to kowtow to a rabid opposition media.

And to elaborate - Social media... Youtube, Facebook, Twitter (in addition to people leaving cable for Amazon, HBO and Netflix) have allowed people more control over the flow of information than the mainstream media giants could have ever imagined. 30 years ago, the MSM controlled every bit of the narrative - if they had an agenda to push, they pushed it, and there was no alternative mass communication with which people could challenge it.

Social media and internet news have changed that. The MSM is starting to realize that - that they are no longer in control of the narrative - and they are panicked and furious. How dare we "little people" question them about their credentials and value as a news organization? How dare we think for ourselves and pay attention to important issues instead of following along on their little tripe train? How dare we challenge their supremacy over the people and the government and the narrative?

They are losing. And that little meme and the ones that have followed in the wake of the little scandal they've stumbled into are proof of it. Nobody is listening to their crap anymore.

 

[FuzzySpider]

If interpreted correctly, there's a "not" implied in your post?

Yes. My girlfriend has been borrowing my braincell for something so I'm typing in haste.

Actually yes. That is exactly what I we are saying.

The implications are long. For instance, it calls into question the nature of "free will". And therefore that undermines both our existing legal framework, and the underpinnings of the most fundamental assumptions of all religions.

I was thinking of this actually. Will gut bacteria be implicated in certain criminal activities or behaviours? Will we see a future where insurers will put higher premiums on people with a certain microbiome? I'd say that my tastes in food are heavily influenced by my microbiota, but what about my tastes in movies, books, and music?

A fascinating age we live in, isn't it?

 

[Minonian]

Or with the loss of internal control, trigger other kind of aggressive sometimes suicidally lethal actions?

Ok... Be more precise! Makes you more susceptible to it.

 

[Ian Skippy]

There is nothing intimidating or violent about that meme. I know that CNN really wants there to be, because it would really help their narrative, but it's simply a little meme to celebrate a president that refuses to kowtow to a rabid opposition media.

And to elaborate - Social media... Youtube, Facebook, Twitter (in addition to people leaving cable for Amazon, HBO and Netflix) have allowed people more control over the flow of information than the mainstream media giants could have ever imagined. 30 years ago, the MSM controlled every bit of the narrative - if they had an agenda to push, they pushed it, and there was no alternative mass communication with which people could challenge it.

Social media and internet news have changed that. The MSM is starting to realize that - that they are no longer in control of the narrative - and they are panicked and furious. How dare we "little people" question them about their credentials and value as a news organization? How dare we think for ourselves and pay attention to important issues instead of following along on their little tripe train? How dare we challenge their supremacy over the people and the government and the narrative?

They are losing. And that little meme and the ones that have followed in the wake of the little scandal they've stumbled into are proof of it. Nobody is listening to their crap anymore.

Ah, I see where this is going. Not much interested in that train of thought tbh, if people want to constantly feel 'little' and victimized by 'evil corporations' who are 'panicked by and furious at' the righteous Common Folks, feel more than welcome.

In the end we're just talking about a lame troll who thought he could be a racist, sexist piece of garbage because he thought he was anonymous, learned he was not and instantly did what all those cowards do when faced with their own drivel: deeply apologize and beg forgiveness. Feel free to turn it into whatever epic story you want.

 

[Arry]

Both of it true. Whenever like it or not, But our nature and psychology is determined by our biology, and hormonic and chemical equilibrium. Our freedom of free will, are lies within the boundaries marked by them. And if Our internal balance is compromised by some sort of substance, or parasite / bacteria /virus or any other way?

YEP! I said virus, Like AIDS whom capable to entirely shut off your immune system. But in case of other creatures i can even say funghi. Anyone heard about Zombie ants?

Spoiler

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2irXpAMBHkE

(slighty related?) War of the words, H.G. Welles.

Desmond Morris; stated back in the 1960s that 'nature' plays a dominant roll over all life forms; even humans. If any populations grows too much then famine, war or disease will cull said populations. Even our advances in medicine are still being out paced by natures new ways to kill us off.

 

[Minonian]

That's right! Except i think you meant 1960's. and not 1060's