The python is already too good.
Fit a fighter bay and just remove other ships from the game...
Fit a fighter bay and just remove other ships from the game...
I haven't played since SLF was a thing and call me crazy but
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Back in the day it was considered that SLF bays required a specific amount of free hull space for the bay doors required to launch the fighter. Has a Python got sufficient free hull area for this?
Just think about the dispersion of the hardpoints, gear etc on the Py and where the fighter bay doors would go...
That wasn't Clint. That was Harry Callahan of the SFPD. I used to confuse the two, until Clint started talking to chairs.
The python is to thin to carry a fighter bay. That is the main reason why. To fit one, you would have to make it thicker.
The python at it's highest point is around the same height as a keelback, but where you would have a fighter bay it is too thin.
Nothing to do with doors etc. The ship is just not built for one in the first place and it wouldn't fit.
The python at it's highest point is around the same height as a keelback, but where you would have a fighter bay it is too thin.
Nothing to do with doors etc. The ship is just not built for one in the first place and it wouldn't fit.
Erm... ok, but then why does the Fed Corvette, Imperial Cutter, and Anaconda have them?
They aren't "Less powerful" at all... Quite the opposite!
Having said that, I get why they chose select ships for it. I think it would be more fun if more could use it, but I get it.
I really dont get why the smallest SLF ship has no second seat though! crazy missed opportunity there. Though it seems like it was created before they really knew they were going to even HAVE fighter control as a multicrew thing.
This man gets it, repped.
For the same reason, the FGS is the only Federation variant to carry the SLF, because the back of the ship was made much thicker in order to make room for the SLF bay & door.
Devs don't want to redesign python model. They also think it's it'd be too OP with a fighter. End thread.
The reason the Python doesn't have a fighter is because FD doesnt want the Python to have a fighter. Which, to be fair, makes sense. Its still way too fast and agile, and has way too much firepower for a medium-sized multirole as is.
None of those ships can park on a Medium pad either. Python is King of all-round; give it a fighter bay and it becomes Emperor. It'd just be too good.
I'd be happy with more ship variants based on fighter loadouts, however. Somewhere we need a ship that's mostly a mobile fighter squadron platform.
It's worth noting that my Grandfather spent most of world war 2 on aircraft carriers that had been made from "trading vessels" with a flat top whacked on them as a conversion.
- I have some very interesting stories for another time and place about that if anyone is ever interested - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Archer_(D78)
On a more game related note while a current Python with slf would probably be considered too powerfull in game balance terms - just like we have had the Cobra\Viper 4 and the Imperial Eagle , it might be interesting to see a future Python variant fitted with an slf - Alliance variant perhaps ? - would probably have to sacrifice speed\agility and perhaps 2 or more of the class 3 hardpoints ? - hey how about a Krait as it's slf if I'm theorycrafting.
Or perhaps that's the illusive "Panther Clipper" ?
and while i'm thinking about it - Moray Starboat slf for the Beluga
Yup. Jeep Carriers. Look up "Taffy 3", and the Battle Of Leyte Gulf.
This is the real reason. The Python then becomes the *only* ship in the game.
Well T6, yeah, T7 yeah, why shouldn't space cow hauling ships have the ability to bring an escort? And as to the Sidey in a Conda, it matters whether the Sidey is bigger than a C5 Module slot, not smaller than the Conda, but yeah to me anything that has Class 5+ optionals gets an SLF, and I kind of don't care about the "Its too thin" concept either on the Python, if it claims 6 C6s it should be able to retrofit at least 1 C5, these are all designed as modular upgrades (meaning plug n play). But hey, I'm playing the game and not building it.
Keelback lands on medium and carries a fighter. I understand it has nothing else going for it besides the SLF, but it still qualifies.
I really didn't expect this all to continue for 4 pages hah. I hope I haven't anyone off.
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If I can glue together 4 Keelbacks I might have that squadron platform vessel I'm looking for.
I always thought the Keelback was a T6 with a SLF hanger. I agree that we could do with a T7 varient with a SLF hanger as well.
I feel like the logic conclusion here is more "Keelback should have a second seat / multicrew" than "Python should have a fighterbay."
Admittedly, as a fulltime Keelback pilot, I'm a bit biased.
It def shouldn't get one before the Clipper does...
With all due respect, but that's .
The Python is 20 meter high, compared to 22,5m for the FGS and 14,something for the Keelback + the python is wider than both of those. It is never ever to thin to carry a SLF bay.
The reason is, as many already have said, because a) it wasn't designed to launch an SLF (aka missing bay doors) and b) because it is with 3 large HPs and two medium HPs already roughly on par with the FdL in terms of fire power, while having a higher poweroutput, being able to land at medium pads and carrying more cargo.
Most people seem to forget how incredible powerful SLFs are. The fixed versions are on par with engineered huge hardpoints, DPS wise, while being able to act independent from the ship. In short, add SLFs for the Python and it becomes the single most versatile (which it probably already is) and powerful ship in the game.
As for, why do Corvette/Cutter/Conda have SLFs bays: Because it makes sense for them to have escorts. They level the field against swarms of smaller ships.
The Keelback is a T6 variant.
Why you would want to fly a T7 in any combat situation, where a SLF is useful is a mystery to me though.
These arguments are stupid because if your favourite Python can have a fighter then the T7, Clipper, Orca, hell even the FAS & FDS should get a fighter.
It doesn't have a fighter because it doesn't, and I for one don't think that should change. If the Python got a fighter it'd just be another thing to make it the "defacto" ship that everyone should own.
It doesn't have a fighter because it doesn't, and I for one don't think that should change. If the Python got a fighter it'd just be another thing to make it the "defacto" ship that everyone should own.