Free The Cobra MKIV

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Perhaps, if people are okay with the idea of the CM4 getting a general release, all the people who currently have one might be offered a custom paint-job for it (or, perhaps, for another ship instead) or, at least, a pack of exclusive "Horizons" decals or summat?

Also... Turbosnowy? Of Skyrim mod' fame?
 
This one speaks the truth - it is a steaming pile - I tried it once and lol'd at how bad it was. You really aren't missing out unless it's hitting that completionist nerve in which case I can somewhat understand, but seriously it is rubbish. There is a reason why all the people that can have them don't either own one or fly them.

You're over-generalising. I own 2 MK4s - a Cobra and a Viper. I fly both, for different things. So your statement of "There is a reason why all the people that can have them don't either own one or fly them" is false :D

Perhaps, if people are okay with the idea of the CM4 getting a general release, all the people who currently have one might be offered a custom paint-job for it (or, perhaps, for another ship instead) or, at least, a pack of exclusive "Horizons" decals or summat?

Also... Turbosnowy? Of Skyrim mod' fame?

What happens when someone else comes along and complains about missing out on the paintjob/exclusive decals?
 
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If stuff is limited 1-time offers, then i think it's fine for FDev to not re-release them. Like the wireframe Cobra MK3 paint job.

However i would say there's a case for the Cobra MK4 to be released on the PS4, as they have not ever had a chance to get it (unlike PC / Xbox).

As someone who has access to the cobra mk4, which I strongly dislike, that suggestion makes sense and I'd get behind that. however I do feel that the sentiments of others in this thread are out of line. I thought the exclusive access might have lasted for a year, with that being the planned duration of season 2. I'd personally be willing to trade the exclusive cobra mk4 access for something else, although what be satisfactory for that that something would be, I don't know.
 
What happens when someone else comes along and complains about missing out on the paintjob/exclusive decals?

I wouldn't have thought that should be an issue.
FDev must have data telling them who currently owns a CM4.
All they'd need to do is create the exclusive paint-jobs, decals or whatever and automatically put them in those people's "inventory".

The real issue is whether or not people would be okay with it, and how FDev would find out whether people were okay with it.

Like I said, personally I think the main thing that MAKES the CM4 "special" is that it's, erm... special.
Making it freely available kind of negates the whole reason it IS desirable.

Possibly depending on whether you were one of the 'I hate everything you do and please die' or the 'nice one' variety - there were plenty of both :)

I'm a big fan. [up]
 
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Imho the Cobra IV is just a slower/heavier version of the already mediocre Dorito chip mk III. I was unimpressed, you can have mine :p
 
You have to admit the predator repaint looks good:

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A bit too pink for me but the GF likes it.



BTW When I bought the pack they called this Rose I see they now call it Red - too many boys put off from buying Rose do you think? LOL
 
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You have to admit the predator repaint looks good:

http://i.imgur.com/7ZfeUUM.jpg




A bit too pink for me but the GF likes it.



BTW When I bought the pack they called this Rose I see they now call it Red - too many boys put off from buying Rose do you think? LOL

I love it.
The fact is that I don't even consider the ship as a lame one.
It's an entry level small python. Good cargo and multiple internal slots. We're talking about EIGHT slots, one more than the multi-million asp explorer. Way to go on versatility.
It's also the best entry level hull for mining IMO. + multicrew if you're so inclined.

The ship is not a non-existent one in my game. Bought the chrome paint job and it looks magnificent on top of that.
People dropped it as soon as it launched because its speed did not make honour to the cobra name.
But guess what, engineers are there now and it can reach far more confortable speeds.
 
I love it.
The fact is that I don't even consider the ship as a lame one.
It's an entry level small python. Good cargo and multiple internal slots. We're talking about EIGHT slots, one more than the multi-million asp explorer. Way to go on versatility.
It's also the best entry level hull for mining IMO. + multicrew if you're so inclined.

The ship is not a non-existent one in my game. Bought the chrome paint job and it looks magnificent on top of that.
People dropped it as soon as it launched because its speed did not make honour to the cobra name.
But guess what, engineers are there now and it can reach far more confortable speeds.
i have a mk iv i called it Money for Nothing, because it was my mining ship and it basically made me sell my part built fer-de-lance and buy an asp to make a dedicated mining asp. then i converted the cobra mkiv into a surface mission capable multi role. it does missions my FAS cannot such as landing and drive to a point in srv and scan, since to do that in the FAS i used to have to swap out the cargo rack for the hangar which makes some missions like collecting skimmer components on the surface a no-go. (you need cargo rack AND srv and hangar). its got enough survivability to do some limited combat also, though i havent risked taking it to the low intensity CZ i can go to in my FAS. i dont notice THAT much difference in agility with my FAS or my cobra mk iii i have for passenger runs. but it would live longer than a cobra mk iv.

when i bought it at same time as the cobra mk iii recently i had forgotten how much fun they are to fly. well the mk iv was a new experience as well as familiar, since its my first. i wasnt in my original mkiii very long before i got my first asp explorer. i wouldnt sell my cobras or asps now, and probably not my FAS unless i find a combat ship with a bit of cargo space that has similar handling and hull tanking but doesnt over heat if you shine a torch on it.
 
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Sorry mate, I have to disagree.

You haven't bought the special offer so it's only natural you side with "Yeah, free the Cobra IV already". For those who gave our money in an instant when they asked there were no "...and maybe it will be available later" options. It was "we need your money right now, and for that you'll get this exclusive item that is available only now". A simple trade deal involving real money.

And it won't be in keeping to make it available from Jameson only. That was not in the deal I paid FD for.

I have it. I didn't 'pay to get it' I pre-ordered Horizons because I wanted Horizons and had the money to buy it, I would have been doing that regardless of whether the Cobra MkIV had been included. Even if I had bought the update at that time specifically for the ship, I would have been buying it because I wanted it, not to ensure that other people could never have it.

I know that in your eyes you're the sensible adult thinking about contracts and binding agreements and all that good stuff but to this 46 year old responsible adult, you're coming across more as a petulant child taking joy in simply having something that someone else doesn't have.

If we were talking about a serious capital purchase here, or being offered exclusive rights on a multi-million pound contract then yes, I would almost certainly be taking the super-serious stance myself, just as I do at work where I'm required to do all kinds of super-serious stuff every day. What we're actually talking about though is a computer game upgrade that the majority of us paid £40 or less for over 18 months ago and which included as an extra bonus a single ship which is of low value to almost every player who has used it, although not to me. I really think you'd do well to stop patting yourself on the back about how righteous you are and try applying a little perspective to be honest.

I'm all for taking a stance but I only tend to do it when the battle is worth fighting to begin with. This misses that threshold by some distance in my eyes.
 
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I was a backer and have access to the Cobra IV, but never flown it. To be honest I'd be perfectly happy if they opened it up to eveyone, it doesn't make logical sense for the ship to be only available to a few given all the work that went into developing it. I backed Elite dangerous because I wanted to see the game made and the whole universe created, we've had exclusive access for a few years now - very few poeple fly them as their primary ships. We'd still have access if other people did too so I don't see how we'd be done out of anything.

Incidentally I'm hoping some of the specials come back (once I've got the money for some of the ships I'd love to see them in Chrome, or similarly the golden anaconda seems to have vanished:-()
 
What about this then....

The ability for CMDRS that do own one to sell it to those that cant buy one.... Then the issue of exclusivity lies at the feet of the owners

I'll happily sell you mine. It's been languishing in Shinrarta since I bought it, flew it for five minutes, and then went back to my AspX. :)
 
It's never going to happen. Remember the Wireframe Cobra? FD tried to put that back into circulation and they got backlash, that's why it's not in the store anymore. They tried to use the "limited only means limited for now" argument, except that wasn't what they put on their store page or what the sale implied. They're not going to try that again.

Have to say that's probably the defining example of why they should just forget the idea of ever doing exclusives again anyway.

Firstly just to clarify something, if you get to buy something on a timed exclusive deal (and I'm saying this as someone who has exclusive stuff and who missed exclusive stuff) it doesn't mean you're special, or a more dedicated fan and that goes double in the case of Elite which was a franchise that hadn't seen a live game released for almost 20 years. There will be countless thousands of players who played Elite, Frontier and FFE more than any three of us put together who simply had no idea this new game was even in the offing and we're not 'better' than those players, we're lucky that we got to know about it and that's all we are. There are stil players now who post on the forums saying they're new to the game and played the originals for endless hours but just didn't know this had been released. Let's not start assuming airs and graces that we don't deserve.

Now, as far as the wireframe Cobra paint is concerned, I missed that. Would I buy it if it went back in the shop? Yeah probably. What have FDev achieved by making it exclusive? They've deprived themselves of what was it, a tenner? Plus all the other tenners from people who would have bought it since it became unavailable. Great move that, makes such good commercial sense to have players who are willing to spend a tenner on a cosmetic item for a computer game and to have to sit there going 'no, really we don't want your stinking money, keep it'.

I'm not salty about not getting it, I just think the fact FDev have to turn down money because they decided to sell it as an exclusive deal and then a bunch of people don't want another bunch of people to have something that they already have and always will have anyway is somewhat crazy. I mean, I wonder how many of the players who bought it only bought it because it was exclusive and not just because they wanted it? I just don't get the mentality at all - it's a paint for a ship in a computer game not a Faberge egg.

That's without even getting into the paints that appear to have been limited time offers but which weren't actually stated to be limited time offers anywhere. I still remember the time I went to the shop to buy the gold FDL paint because I'd finally bought one only to be sat there scrolling through the pages going 'so yeah, where is the gold FDL paint anyway?' Ditto the gold Anaconda paint. I'd seen those in the shop every time I visited since I started playing, didn't see a damn thing saying they were going to be withdrawn from sale. Oh look, more money that isn't going in the till.

Then you had the Black Friday paints which is the only one that did irritate me somewhat. The complete set was given away free to players who pre-ordered Horizons. I did in fact pre-order Horizons, I just didn't pre-order it early enough lol, like it's not enough for me to shell out £40 for a game expansion before even the first of its four parts is released (without even getting into the fact we've only had the third one up to now, seven months after we expected the final one) but I also have to do it before a day which is still an irrelevance to a lot of people in the UK because it's an American thing (the day being chosen with reference to Thanksgiving) and which is only being foisted on us in an attempt to get us to spend money in the run-up to Christmas. The only chord it strikes with me is the day that I get to watch chavs fighting over Bush tellys in Asda on the news. Still FDev were quick to stick those in the shop last year for what was it, £3 each? Many lolz were had that day.

The whole deal with exclusives and computer games is bunk, it's just one more thing along with pre-order bonuses in general that causes more problems than it's worth. Just create the content and let all the players buy it if they want it without trying to turn it into a collectible. That way you make more money and have less butthurt to deal with.

Incidentally I'm hoping some of the specials come back (once I've got the money for some of the ships I'd love to see them in Chrome, or similarly the golden anaconda seems to have vanished:-()

Yeah, see above. No idea at all what that was about.
 
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I think FDev didn't think it through and should have made the MkIV exclusive only through the Horizons season. Then they could have opened it up to everyone for 3.0 and offer a new exclusive ship as a pre-order incentive.

I think the MkIV is a great, small mult-role, especially now with engineering. I would have loved to have one when I first started the game. I have one in my fleet but only fly it infrequently while it's unavailable to newcomers who could best use it.
 
I completely don't mind not having access to a bunch of paint jobs, decal, other cosmetic stuff. Came in on a Steam sale, since I've gotten burned FAR too many times on interminable kickstarters and EA games that just kind of trail off and lose interest before they even get released. (The worst example that I can think of was starforge, an incredible piece of garbage.)

Anyway, the Cobra4 isn't just cosmetic, it's an entire ship. One that has a LOT of slots and could help new players, and older ones likely don't care.

By all means, keep the Cobra4 exclusive, but it would be nice if one with very similar stats and slot loadout was available, between the Cobra3 (which was so fun) and AspX/Vulture/whatever. But those bays would let new players mine, or whatever, way better than a lot of other options.
 
I have a relatively simple idea why not buff the current cobra MKIV by swapping a small hardpoint with a medium and then release another one which is the same as it is now to all players. That way we still have access to an exclusive ship.
 
As someone who can purchase the Cobra IV, I don't want any of you non-exclusives to have access to it, even if it's a garbage ship I wouldn't bother owning. It's a symbol that the world isn't fair, deal with it.
 
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