Federation shall die!

[CMDR Zadian Lichtfrost]

… That's 1 conflict too many than an honest oppressed independent is willing to invest time into.
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Maybe I'm misunderstanding your comment, but I think there are quite a few independent (as in not part of a player group) CMDRs that are willing to invest a lot of time for their chosen faction or any cause they want to support.
Maybe the problem is, that those interested in the BGS are not interested in rare trading?

I agree with you that often commenters demand things to happen without willing to spend the time to make it happen.

 

[Apos]

Maybe I'm misunderstanding your comment, but I think there are quite a few independent (as in not part of a player group) CMDRs that are willing to invest a lot of time for their chosen faction or any cause they want to support.
Maybe the problem is, that those interested in the BGS are not interested in rare trading?

I agree with you that often commenters demand things to happen without willing to spend the time to make it happen.

I'm just always amused referring to indies with a broad brush, because it ends up at a point where they accept being part of a bigger group, which is ironic for someone who so desperately tries to prove no affiliations.

The groups working the BGS are very much well known.

 

[Sapyx]

CMDRs the time is now...

After I made the long trip to Pinzon Dock in Aulin to get some tons of the Motrona Experience Jelly, I learned that they no longer sell the good. I can only imagine that insane federation laws are behind this undemocratic and freedom opposing fact.

I am so angry about the laws that the federation is forcing upon their controlled systems. What do they think they are? Hudson and co... corrupt politicians!
I plea for a full fledged war against all fed controlled systems! The sooner we free all systems from the grip of these enslavers of freedom the better.

I urge all empire, alliance, independant and alien forces to join me in the ultimate war for freedom of the individual and against corruption in the galaxy - the federation must fall!

For combined undermining and guerrilla warfare let's form a secretive council to plan the next actions to secure our future peace of mind as pilots of a free galaxy!

Thank you

(if the absence of Motrona Experience Jelly is not the fault of the feds, let's kill them anyway! )

I'd just like to point out that the OP is wrong, on practically every level.

In a system where there are no Federation-aligned factions present whatsoever, an Alliance-aligned anarchy is overthrown by an Alliance-aligned Corporate state, thanks to the random actions of independent CMDRs (Anarchies are currently inherently unstable) and perhaps contributed to by Alliance-affiliated powerplayers who are attempting to manipulate the BGS to the Alliance Prime Minister's advantage. And somehow the Federation is to blame for all this, despite the fact that this is all happening in the middle of Alliance-controlled space with the nearest Federation-controlled system over 10 LYs away.

Yeah, right.

I see Russia is invading the Ukraine again. So let's all attack and punish America, it must be the Americans to blame for allowing the invasion to happen! Boo, America!

Let the OP carry out a bizarre and pathetic vendetta against the superpower status quo, if they wish. But please, at least find a believable pretext before you launch your doomed crusade.

 

[the100thmonkey]

The system will always naturally flip back to the Corporate because it controls the near side station/surface port, even with random activity. It would take at least 2 conflicts to stabilize the system in favour of the Anarchy. That's 1 conflict too many than an honest oppressed independent is willing to invest time into.

I don't think that's a fair assessment, personally. All independents? That's something of a broad brush you're wielding there.

The problem is that people expect others to do maintenance work for them and/or control random activity.

Which people? I appreciate that you're attempting to correct a misconception on behalf of Mr. Lizard, but you don't have to be unpleasant about it. If you're addressing me personally, I'd remind you who I work for and suggest that I know all about maintaining systems. I'm pretty sure that Mr. Lizard does too.

Nevertheless, I hope their CG gets accepted, so that everyone can be happy and have the best outcome. The Jelly is also a main product of the system, so it makes little sense that a corporate would ban it. A dictatorship maybe...

Like I said, if he talked to AOSS and suggested a quid pro quo, they would, in my experience, have no issue with the flip provided there was another system flipped to corporate to maintain Mahon's triggers at the desirable level. They're a very reasonable bunch of players.

 

[Daniel Cloudsifter]

Good luck in your endeavor. I won't be joining in, since I have my own agenda. But I can give moral support.

For the Empire!

Agreed. OP, just move to Imperial space or Alliance space and you won't have to deal with stringent Federation laws. You can also stay out of the cross-fire, since the Federation currently seems to have all the Thargoid aggro...

 

[Daniel Cloudsifter]

http://www.scform.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/ky_jelly_300.jpg

I'll deliver all the Kentucky Jelly you like.

As I'm from Kentucky, I would normally be opposed to you calling KY Jelly Kentucky Jelly. However, given our current governor... by all means, please continue.

God, I wish I could relocate...

 

[Apos]

I don't think that's a fair assessment, personally. All independents? That's something of a broad brush you're wielding there.

Which people? I appreciate that you're attempting to correct a misconception on behalf of Mr. Lizard, but you don't have to be unpleasant about it. If you're addressing me personally, I'd remind you who I work for and suggest that I know all about maintaining systems. I'm pretty sure that Mr. Lizard does too.

Like I said, if he talked to AOSS and suggested a quid pro quo, they would, in my experience, have no issue with the flip provided there was another system flipped to corporate to maintain Mahon's triggers at the desirable level. They're a very reasonable bunch of players.

Refer above.

No, I have no issues with CI. We've never had swell relations like the Mercs and CSG, but that doesn't translate to "bad" either.

I'm just getting increasingly annoyed of the "holy oppressed indy, all superpowers suck" trope, so I poke fun at the yellows when I can. It's just funny seeing them denying the unity of the Alliance but accepting the word "independent" as a supergroup that defines them.

Anyway, in regards to the flip. Dea Motrona is in-between 3 different bubbles, so it's quite a super efficient system to be corporate. Its equivalent would be 1 flip for each bubble of LTT 14478, BD+22 2742 and Mong Kung. Even then, I talked with the Mahonites when it was getting flipped back to anarchy (i'm the one who flipped it to corporate the first time, so I kept checking back) and they didn't care either way. Which is why I know the system went back to its own through passive movement instead of someone else being hell bent to the system being corporate.

Funnily enough, the first time I flipped it, the Corporate did not actually ban the Jelly, but a major update changed that.

Personally, if Michael Brookes comes out and states that the team has went back on their decision to eventually remove Anarchies from the Alliance because it was a "mistake", then I have no problems whatsoever. The initial flip was exactly due to that statement to ensure that it remains green in the future. Although another solution could be an Alliance Democracy brought over instead. But that's a lot of hussle for me at the time being. (hopefully)

 

[CMDR Josky]

Frontier if you read this would you please add Slave Freedom Passenger missions.I think it would be really cool. I salute the Federation.