Who is playing the old fashioned way?

[verminstar]

The current builds of the game lack too many needed resources to play any kind of "Old School" approach without wasting tons of game time looking for ships, modules, resources, trade routes etc. etc. etc.

If you want to forgo all of the excellent third party resources out there that take up this slack, knock yourselves out. But in my opinion, that is a very inefficient way to approach playing this game.

And yet that is exactly how I've played since day one...I use no out of game resources at all...none. Everything I've learned and picked up has been done the hard way...made lots of mistakes, learned from them and adapted accordingly.

With what is now closing in on 1900 hours total playtime, I gotta say I have never once been even remotely tempted to use any of them.

Ive ignored rngeers since they landed...not one single modification on anything and none of them unlocked...have decided to do them now. I might browse through the forums fer bits n pieces but by and large, if I can't master them ingame without using external sources of information, then I personally don't think they worth learning at all.

Ive figured out most things without too much stress...fairly sure I'll achieve the same with rngeers. I got a hold full of mats I have no other use fer and last night hit the limit on data with 500 pieces of silver to feed into the slot machines.

And some people seem to think they genuinely old school? Pff

 

[Saxon Kili]

+1. Grinding and quick credits aren't an exploit in any way. They're just a means to an end. Usually that shiny new ship.

I've found new life in a little ship, but need lots of rebuys in the coffers for my current playstyle. Quince helps with the credits and engineer stuff as well. One engineer also needs a bit of Imp rank, so it's like a one stop shop. That, and Dav's Hope.

There are those who might even think Dav's is an exploit. It's pretty funny to see those types post.

So what is Dav's all about? Naval Rank?

 

[Spiridon]

So what is Dav's all about? Naval Rank?

Mats.

Ive ignored rngeers since they landed...not one single modification on anything and none of them unlocked...have decided to do them now. I might browse through the forums fer bits n pieces but by and large, if I can't master them ingame without using external sources of information, then I personally don't think they worth learning at all.

OK, but if you ever need help (and you will), feel free to PM me. Won't break the immersion, like a chat with a commander who already sailed those waters.

 

[GG7]

And yet that is exactly how I've played since day one...I use no out of game resources at all...none. Everything I've learned and picked up has been done the hard way...made lots of mistakes, learned from them and adapted accordingly.

With what is now closing in on 1900 hours total playtime, I gotta say I have never once been even remotely tempted to use any of them.

Ive ignored rngeers since they landed...not one single modification on anything and none of them unlocked...

Bragging about passing on major features and other cool aspects available?

Okay... [rolleyes]

Its your money, and your time I guess.

 

[verminstar]

Mats.



OK, but if you ever need help (and you will), feel free to PM me. Won't break the immersion, like a chat with a commander who already sailed those waters.

Aw man cheers really...I don't have many friends here and that made gave me a warm and fuzzy feeling

I need challenges in a game which is why I played ironman fer 8 months...wiped my save 4 times. As controversial as it sounds, and I really don't wanna start a mud slinging match over this, but I consider any and all out of game resources as being someone else's game. Their creators, while very talented and well meaning, had a lotta fun doing exactly what I'm doing...they had no guides because they write them after they played.

I wanna play my way, not copy someone else's example on some website. If others use them, then that's cool I'm not judging anyone, but I need a new challenge to test meself otherwise I lose interest and wander off in search of the next challenge.

This is what I do in every game I've ever played...like currently building an exploration T9...as to why? Because not many others have, just the odd one here and there...I'm doing it because I love the look of my big Betty...really need to engineer it though, it's a thousand tonnes in vanilla form, doesn't handle as well as a dolphin that's fer sure ^

 

[verminstar]

Bragging about passing on major features and other cool aspects available?

Okay... [rolleyes]

Its your money, and your time I guess.

Written and compiled by players who did the same thing with no guides...the fact they created those guides is testament to how much they enjoyed playing the game their way. If I copy setups, then I'm copying someone else's game ergo I'm not playing my own way anymore ^

 

[GG7]

Written and compiled by players who did the same thing with no guides...the fact they created those guides is testament to how much they enjoyed playing the game their way. If I copy setups, then I'm copying someone else's game ergo I'm not playing my own way anymore ^

Looks over at 60Ly jump range on Anaconda and shrugs.

 

[Villainous Ruffian]

I have way too much to do in Elite to ever waste time board flipping.

 

[verminstar]

Looks over at 60Ly jump range on Anaconda and shrugs.

M8 none of my ships have more that 35ly range and Ive been up one side the milky way and down the other without any trouble. The only reason I could ever envisage meself wanting such a big range would be if I was buckyballing or just fancied a tourist bus. Dont need big range to explore...the guys who make beagle point in sidewinders inspire me a helluva lot more than the buckyballer who does it record time.

If thats what yer into, then so long as yer enjoying yer game, theres no problems. But considering the rngeers are only about a year old, there were plenty of explorers in the black before they landed and made the milky way smaller and easier to get around...like a theme park as opposed to an untamed wilderness ^

 

[MarkAusten]

People who use exploits only cheat themselves.

However, apart from the obvious exploits, such as the engineering bug, most of the time the term "exploit" is more of a personal definition than an absolute standard.

Meaning that what you consider to be an exploit, I may well consider it to be more than acceptable.

Thus, whist what you say is correct, what it means in practise is up to the individual and no-one else.

 

[MottiKhan]

However, apart from the obvious exploits, such as the engineering bug, most of the time the term "exploit" is more of a personal definition than an absolute standard.

Meaning that what you consider to be an exploit, I may well consider it to be more than acceptable.

Thus, whist what you say is correct, what it means in practise is up to the individual and no-one else.

+1.

 

[iSteel]

I recently cleared my save and currently sit inside A-rated Sidey with 2million cr to spend. I intend to try how far I can go with engineering with only using Sidey. Though I might change my rules at some point.

No mode switching. Take the most profitable delivery mission from station to earn credits for A-rated exploration capable Sidey (need 4ton cargo capacity for opening Elvira). After Elvira is open I will proceed until I reach Palin or get crazy. After I finish my Sidey mission I plan just to enjoy BHing and making odd missions with Cobra or AspX. Maybe trying to get into passenger business also.

Reason for resetting the save was the burnout to get money to equip my Anaconda and at the same time to get the best engineering mods to my A-rated smaller ships. At some point I just noticed I enjoyed more the smaller ships, mainly Asp X and Viper. Then I just though I could try to reach the engineers with only using Sidey.

I only use Inara to check the locations and requirements to open the engineers. If I need more detailed help I will check the forums.

 

[jasonbarron]

I'm so old fashioned and hardcore that I used this badboy instead of my gal map:

 

[Koen]

I only fly a wireframe Cowell & McGrath Cobra Mk.III, in which I started the game at Lave with only 100 credits ("Independent Trader" Kickstarter tier) during Gamma.

I guess one can call that old-fashioned...

Spoiler

Pictures of the "Dancing Groigan":

I still have the original "loaned" fuel tank, which proves that this is indeed the ship I started the game with (except for a couple of replacements by the insurance, that is):

 

[Caliber_az]

Not sure why the term Old School is being thrown around as a term for playing it legit. I owned my first computer in the mid 80's (a C-64) and even way back then there were tons of cheats and cracks being used. How many old schoolers knew the code for invulnerability or endless ammo as an example. One only had to read a computer magazine or hop onto an related IRC channel to learn of these . I may have experimented with them a time or two but I found they made the game boring so usually I never used them. This type of exploit has been around since day 1 of computer games and will probably be around as long as games are being played on some type of computer or game console,

Personally I am fine with however you want to play your game. It wont affect me much and I play Elite in the way that gives me the best gaming experience. I use VA and some external websites as a way to add to my immersion but if you feel this is a cheat then you should not use them. My play style probably won't impact your game at all, so we can all just play to whatever gives us the best gaming experience.

An old school fool who doesn't care to be cool.
Caliber_az

 

[jasonbarron]

Not sure why the term Old School is being thrown around as a term for playing it legit. I owned my first computer in the mid 80's (a C-64) and even way back then there were tons of cheats and cracks being used. How many old schoolers knew the code for invulnerability or endless ammo as an example. One only had to read a computer magazine or hop onto an related IRC channel to learn of these . I may have experimented with them a time or two but I found they made the game boring so usually I never used them. This type of exploit has been around since day 1 of computer games and will probably be around as long as games are being played on some type of computer or game console,

Personally I am fine with however you want to play your game. It wont affect me much and I play Elite in the way that gives me the best gaming experience. I use VA and some external websites as a way to add to my immersion but if you feel this is a cheat then you should not use them. My play style probably won't impact your game at all, so we can all just play to whatever gives us the best gaming experience.

An old school fool who doesn't care to be cool.
Caliber_az

I agree that the comparison is a bit weird. It's almost like we're trying to make "old fashioned" synonymous with "underachieving."

 

[verminstar]

I agree that the comparison is a bit weird. It's almost like we're trying to make "old fashioned" synonymous with "underachieving."

Old fashioned...when men were men, women were women and public toilets were no mans land :x

Its like dealing with pain...these days, normal folk take pills and eat a balanced diet and keep a healthy lifestyle

Old school is a bottle of southern comfort after a chicken curry, followed by smoking yerself into the bliss of unconsiousness

 

[Caliber_az]

The only true way to play the old fashioned way is to fire up that old C64 (or whatever you used in the 80's) and insert that old floppy of original Elite. Now that is truly Old School.

Caliber_az

 

[Cervantes01]

l play the old fashioned way, virtue is it's own reward.

 

[CMDR-AD]

True, but that's what I've gathered during the last years, that using exploits and shady tools seems quite common in modern gaming. ED is not an exception. So isn't it safe to say it's a "modern" occurrence that's opposed by an "old-school" approach?

What it means to me is largely this, playing like I did back before the days of the internet.

The closest comparison back in those days I guess would be those "Game Guide" magazines, that revealed where all the secrets were, solved all the puzzles, etc. I could never stand those things, as I enjoyed the thrill of the hunt more than seeing the ending screen ASAP. But I guess it could be argued that the internet reveal-all stuff was still around back in the "old fashioned" days, just with all the game content revealed and spoiled on paper, instead of the internet.