Anti griefer CG suicide-winder interdiction units...

[Perseus]

. . . It can already be completely bypassed in the other two game modes - which dilutes any effect of so called emergent gameplay (that involves direct player interaction). .

Indeed and exactly.
Hence, why have a blocking dilution in an open mode? The OP's intentions are doomed to failure due the blocking feature, which will no doubt be utilized by their opponents. Innocent traders will still be interdicted and destroyed in open. Emergent gameplay foiled by a profusion of diluting choices.

 

[CMDR Zadian Lichtfrost]

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Fully Combat Effective Trade Conda…

Fully Combat Effective Trade Python…

Those builds are very limited in their use for trading. The cargo capacity is so low that it doesn't make sense to use those expensive ships to haul that little amount of cargo.

And they would require participating in PowerPlay for a power and that might be against the RP of the player.

 

[Powderpanic]

Those builds are very limited in their use for trading. The cargo capacity is so low that it doesn't make sense to use those expensive ships to haul that little amount of cargo.

And they would require participating in PowerPlay for a power and that might be against the RP of the player.

These players shouldn't play in Open then and complain about PVP players because of their terrible choices about design and RP. Simple.

Also these people with deep deep RP commitments could build both ships without needing Prismatics, they would still be fully viable to scaring off your average griefer if they worked together in a Wing.

Or does forcing people to play in a Wing trigger you because it has a bias against introverted people? ( Solo is available for them folk )

 

[Stigbob]

These players shouldn't play in Open then and complain about PVP players because of their terrible choices about design and RP. Simple.

Also these people with deep deep RP commitments could build both ships without needing Prismatics, they would still be fully viable to scaring off your average griefer if they worked together in a Wing.

Or does forcing people to play in a Wing trigger you because it has a bias against introverted people? ( Solo is available for them folk )

Talking of terrible choices what have your very heavy on the gimballed multi-cannon builds got to do with gitting gud ?, stick some fun weapons in there that you have to aim yourself.

 

[CMDR Zadian Lichtfrost]

These players shouldn't play in Open then and complain about PVP players because of their terrible choices about design and RP. Simple.

Also these people with deep deep RP commitments could build both ships without needing Prismatics, they would still be fully viable to scaring off your average griefer if they worked together in a Wing.

Or does forcing people to play in a Wing trigger you because it has a bias against introverted people? ( Solo is available for them folk )

So, players in open should always fly in wings.
Ignore their RP or adjust it.
Fly ships that are crippled for the intended task to make them usable in potential PvP.

This is pushing players out of open by requiring them to be part of a niche within a niche within a niche.

I think the better solution would be if FD finally manages to balance the game in a logical way.

 

[Powderpanic]

Talking of terrible choices what have your very heavy on the gimballed multi-cannon builds got to do with gitting gud ?, stick some fun weapons in there that you have to aim yourself.

Stig you might not realise these because you block challenge. Gitting Gud also requires taking advantage of game mechanics.
Currently Gimbled are a game mechanic and for their aversion to chaff, they are very very strong.
Would that ship be stronger with Fixed? Yes... Why yes it would... But lets start slow on the Gitting Gud huh.

I mean for most of this forum just running a shield, booster, cells and slightly reduced cargo capacity is revolutionary.

Baby steps ... baby steps....

Should any of my words go against your view of how your forum should function

This forum has a block function too.

 

[Powderpanic]

So, players in open should always fly in wings.
Ignore their RP or adjust it.
Fly ships that are crippled for the intended task to make them usable in potential PvP.

This is pushing players out of open by requiring them to be part of a niche within a niche within a niche.

I think the better solution would be if FD finally manages to balance the game in a logical way.

Dude you just cant help some people.

And if by balance you think a Trade ship should be able to withstand a wing of GWEEFERS wanting to kill it, just so that players credits per hour doesn't suffer. Not sure how to help you...

 

[CMDR Zadian Lichtfrost]

Dude you just cant help some people.

And if by balance you think a Trade ship should be able to withstand a wing of GWEEFERS wanting to kill it, just so that players credits per hour doesn't suffer. Not sure how to help you...

So you don't want more players in Open Mode? OK. No problem.

Just don't complain later about the lack of traders in Open Mode after basically telling traders they shouldn't play in Open Mode.

 

[GreyAreaUK]

Ohwow... How does your brain think?

I cant even....

Yes, the fact that you "can't even" is painfully obvious.

There's more than one play style, and there isn't just one play style that has the right to Open.

Get over it.

 

[Powderpanic]

So you don't want more players in Open Mode? OK. No problem.

Just don't complain later about the lack of traders in Open Mode after basically telling traders they shouldn't play in Open Mode.

I accepted a long time ago that nothing is going to bring someone with a victim complex into Open, short of the removal of all forms of PVP.

And seeing when anyone mentions putting a bonus for Open play to balance out the increased risk.
Most of this forum starts crying about all modes being equal and then the really fanatical ones start pointing out you can go into your router to stop other people instancing with you.

I think you need to adjust your expectations of the people that play this game buddy.

Yes, the fact that you "can't even" is painfully obvious.

There's more than one play style, and there isn't just one play style that has the right to Open.

Get over it.

Hey its my number one fan, i've missed you posting garbage replies for forum likes.

 

[Stigbob]

Stig you might not realise these because you block challenge. Gitting Gud also requires taking advantage of game mechanics.
Currently Gimbled are a game mechanic and for their aversion to chaff, they are very very strong.
Would that ship be stronger with Fixed? Yes... Why yes it would... But lets start slow on the Gitting Gud huh.

I mean for most of this forum just running a shield, booster, cells and slightly reduced cargo capacity is revolutionary.

Baby steps ... baby steps....

Should any of my words go against your view of how your forum should function

This forum has a block function too.

What have low skill cheats and station griefers got to do with challenge ?.

 

[GreyAreaUK]

Hey its my number one fan, i've missed you posting garbage replies for forum likes.

According to your monkey you're supposed to be ignoring me.

More than one play style can play in Open, whether you like it or not.

And yes, the Block feature can cause instancing issues for other players and that's a problem, but the key point about that problem, the really important bit, the 'down to the brass tacks, cards on the table' aspect of that problem is that it's your problem, not mine.

Have fun!

 

[Powderpanic]

What have low skill cheats and station griefers got to do with challenge ?.

Cheats what cheats? Can you be clear on that one.

Are you referring to the people who exploited billions in a day with credits loopholes?
The ones who did the bounty hunter exploit early game?
Or the ones who rolled better modules with engineers G1 mats... Na you cant be talking about them, because they got removed.

So what cheats are upsetting you at the moment? Please be clear.

And the station griefers? You mean the ones who are pretty much neutered by you just flying at the speed limit?

The mines one is super rare, so maybe its just that one.. Never seen it myself but then I am really good at the game and would spot a danger like that and adapt.

I learned these by not putting a block infront of my learning and improvement.

According to your monkey you're supposed to be ignoring me.

More than one play style can play in Open, whether you like it or not.

And yes, the Block feature can cause instancing issues for other players and that's a problem, but the key point about that problem, the really important bit, the 'down to the brass tacks, cards on the table' aspect of that problem is that it's your problem, not mine.

Have fun!

No not ignore, I am not a weak minded person that would resort to blocking or anything like that.

Your comments are usually so garbage and salty that a simple lol and bypass is usually enough.

But sometimes.. I will reply... Feel greatful

 

[Robert Maynard]

Indeed and exactly.
Hence, why have a blocking dilution in an open mode?

Given the other means already available the question would seem to be: why not? (especially as it might mean that players that like to play among players would be more likely to play in Open)

The OP's intentions are doomed to failure due the blocking feature, which will no doubt be utilized by their opponents. Innocent traders will still be interdicted and destroyed in open. Emergent gameplay foiled by a profusion of diluting choices.

If the interdictors friend the traders then they would probably be preferentially instanced together - and if the opponents block the interdictors then they'd be less likely to be instanced with the interdictors (and the traders that they have friended that are preferentially instanced with them)....

 

[GreyAreaUK]

I learned these by not putting a block infront of my learning and improvement.

Gosh, we're terribly impressed. Aren't we? Guys? Guys?







Guys?






Oh. Guess we aren't. My mistake.

 

[Stigbob]

Cheats what cheats? Can you be clear on that one.

Are you referring to the people who exploited billions in a day with credits loopholes?
The ones who did the bounty hunter exploit early game?
Or the ones who rolled better modules with engineers G1 mats... Na you cant be talking about them, because they got removed.

So what cheats are upsetting you at the moment? Please be clear.

And the station griefers? You mean the ones who are pretty much neutered by you just flying at the speed limit?

The mines one is super rare, so maybe its just that one.. Never seen it myself but then I am really good at the game and would spot a danger like that and adapt.

I learned these by not putting a block infront of my learning and improvement.

You need to git gud at foruming mate, here you go it's from a couple of pages back.

You're labouring under a misapprehension, there are only two types of player that I'll block.

1 station griefers, they've been boring since 2014, FDEV have had 3 years and failed, the block function works.

2 5-1 engineer cheats, they should have been banned, again the block function works as a counter to this.

 

[Robert Maynard]

You would be wrong there if you knew how to build a PVP ship.

See below.

There is a Git Gud school available should you want to learn.

The operative word here is "want" - some have no interest or inclination whatsoever in "gittin' gud" (to engage in a play-style that they have no interest in).

If you mean less effective in that you couldn't run a shieldless trader with max cargo storage and D rated modules to increase jump range being as effective a well designed ship with.. You know defence..Shields and reduced cargo capacity because you need to carry a few Shield cells.
Yeah I will give you that one.

Indeed - the ship would be less effective than one that is capable of handling NPC interaction.

But never wanting to be seen as unhelpful on this wonderful forum of people who want their hands held.

Fully Combat Effective Trade Conda https://coriolis.edcd.io/outfit/ana...18ZVA=.Aw18ZVA=..EweloBhBmSQUwIYHMA28QgIwV0A=

Fully Combat Effective Trade Python https://coriolis.edcd.io/outfit/pyt...18eQ==.Aw18eQ==..EweloBhBmSQUwIYHMA28QgIwV0A=

Now you will need to engineer these but thats PVP, you guys love that stuff.

Ta.

No you will not make as much money per hour but you also wont be a total victim.

Being a victim is, to a large extent, optional in this game.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

"Continually interdicting" the same person is quite explicitly griefing in the sense the Fdev defines the term.

Indeed. If the CMDR moves to a different system and the interdicting continues, that is griefing since the CMDR is targeted.

If however the system the CG is held in is the target, it cannot be griefing. Then the interdiction depends on who is in the system. The griefed CMDR can easily escape the griefing by going to another system, or flying in a Private Group or Solo.

by not allowing "griefers" to interdict and interact with players, you are being antisocial, therefore this is really antisocial behavior

Au contraire (Pardon my French). The griefer gets a lot of interdictions and interactions. And this time they're even consensual, emergent content and provides many smiles per gallon.

You should love it and cheer for the initiative that people are taking in emergent PvP.

 

[Powderpanic]

You need to git gud at foruming mate, here you go it's from a couple of pages back.

No I read that.... I just assumed you had other ideas of cheaters in mind..

Or are you really blocking people that did cheat? That's pretty cute.

But it is your game, I am lucky that I still get to play it. Very Lucky!

Being a victim is, to a large extent, optional in this game.

Yes... YES!! You cracked it! You can stop being a victim by Gitting Gud!

Finally you understand.

 

[EvoMayhem]

I have an idea...

... continually interdict pilots who are behaving in an antisocial way.

The rebuy is minimal. Any takers?

The hypocritical irony in you trying to recruit players to essentially grief, and be all anti-social, in an effort to stop others who you deem to be anti-social, is amusing.