Totally agree. That's why i don't get why there are so many complaint about being destroyed in Open from players minding their own business and delibarately ingoring other playstyle possibilities.
Anti griefer CG suicide-winder interdiction units...
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Totally agree. That's why i don't get why there are so many complaint about being destroyed in Open from players minding their own business and delibarately ingoring other playstyle possibilities.
Or by using the Officially Sanctioned, Put There For This Very Purpose By FDev Themselves feature called 'Blocking'.
Finally, you understand.
*Shrug* Sauce for the goose, as they say.
I wonder what "wake scanner" and "just hunt other Commanders" are for...
Powderpanic
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This forum doesn't want suggestions or any requirement to change their play style ( even when it clearly doesn't work in a given situation ).
What they want is FDEV to remove griefers from the game.
Seeing as Karma isn't going to do that. ( Honestly wait and see, its going to be brilliant )
FDEV will not make more radical changes to make it harder for PVP players to escape in game consequences because can you imagine the tears from the low skill players?
And finally seeing as peoples view of what is a griefer, extends to anyone, doing anything, in anyway they dont like, no matter how minor.
Yeah griefers** ain't going anywhere... Not ever!!
**griefers refers to any PVP situation use lose. If you win said situation, it suddenly becomes exciting dynamic gameplay. #SCIENCE
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Please, do explain to us all how you having a physical copy of the game, means you 'own' the game? In what way does this ownership of a disc allow you to continue playing in the (theoretical) situation of FDev ever banning you, and denying you access to the servers?
You don't own the game. At all. None of us do. This isn't lawyering cobblers, it's a term and condition of a license that you, along with the rest of us, agreed to.
Case in point, those who play and have never bought a disc. In your logic, only those who own a disc 'own' the game, yet these other players still seem capable of playing it in exactly the same way as you. How does your logic explain that then?
FDev's game, FDev's rules. End of story.
Robert Maynard
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I understand that "Gitting Gud" is but one option (and a non-mandatory one at that)....
Unless someone poses as an innocent trader, of course, and gets on the friends list.
Let's be honest, these so called 'greifers' are nothing if not devilishly creative and intelligent. In game evasion and protection mechanics have been designed and implemented for a reason. Modes have been established for a reason. Are you really of the belief that manipulating friend/block lists is more emergent and compelling than engaging with the contextual gameplay?
Powderpanic
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I understand that "Gitting Gud" is but one option (and a non-mandatory one at that)....
No you are correct.
The other options are Solo, Private and blocking challenge.
No it doesn't and no-one is saying that. You might want to consider that if you have to resort to strawman arguments, maybe your point isn't as valid as you'd like it to be.
Robert Maynard
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It would seem that the genie is already out of the bottle on that one - and manipulation of friend / block lists is a "thing" already.
Whether engaging in the emergent gameplay on offer is more compelling than not engaging in it would seem to be a matter opinion though - it rather depends on the scope of the emergent gameplay.
Fixed it for you.
Robert Maynard
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.... or maybe simply something as mundane as not frequenting those places that are favoured by those one wishes to avoid.
....or having an advanced degree in successful running away.
Robert Maynard
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A forum style, low wake evasion.
Contradictory and confusing elements abound in ED - I'm still at a loss about how the karma C&P is even relevant now that we can block in open. It does seem to make any development time investment on such a system pointless.
As I stated initially, too many playstyle choices are spoiling the game; especially the free range, emergent style.
Robert Maynard
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A forum style, low wake evasion.
Hehe....
I'd expect that the karma system is expected to attempt to discourage particular behaviours in general - regardless of whether the player facing the consequences is blocked by another player. The block feature is in place for cases where a particular player has had an encounter with another player that they consider merits blocking that player.
Which could be read as "one of the play-style choices spoiling the game is the free-range, emergent style".
Frontier designed the game for all play-styles - and players don't need to hang about to be content for other players that require players as content.
I'm not going to block anyone, and I'm sure many CMDRs won't use this function. I feel actions should have consequences. Which makes the karma C&P relevant.A forum style, low wake evasion.
Contradictory and confusing elements abound in ED - I'm still at a loss about how the karma C&P is even relevant now that we can block in open. It does seem to make any development time investment on such a system pointless.
As I stated initially, too many playstyle choices are spoiling the game; especially the free range, emergent style.
The non-compromise answer to that is the Cutter. I run a fully engineered trade Cutter, 736t cargo, 2400MJ highly resistant shields, dual A5 SCBs, a little under 300 DPS, getting away at near 470m/s, impossible to masslock except by another Cutter.
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Actually the only hypocritical irony I see is those moaning about the griefers being greifed!
Yep, I hope to collect them all.
Except the block list obviously.
Why would FDEV ban me ?, I don't do anything wrong. I simply apply the block function exactly as it was always intended to be applied.
<checks shelf> Still there.
Where ever did you get that idea from ?.
My game my rules my decisions, you have no input in any of my menu choices.