13th's Lord Commander Gets Destroyed in single combat by ace pilot Harry Potter!

I'm not up on the official PvP world in this game, but is there a league where the competitors must use the exact same load out and ship?

It just seems that in videos like this, it is impossible to gauge the actual winner due to the fact that they were both in different ships.

Skill can only be ascertained on a level playing ground. Matches like this prove nothing concrete about each player's skill. I'm not sure what there is to be proud of here.
 
I'm not up on the official PvP world in this game, but is there a league where the competitors must use the exact same load out and ship?

It just seems that in videos like this, it is impossible to gauge the actual winner due to the fact that they were both in different ships.

Skill can only be ascertained on a level playing ground. Matches like this prove nothing concrete about each player's skill. I'm not sure what there is to be proud of here.

There are player run PvP Leagues for both 1v1's and for Wings. Both groups of organizers lay out rules for allowable ships and gear with the announcement of the 'season'. There is also the Arena/CQC which is a separate PvP game based on very small, fighter craft and controlled layouts. It isn't wildly popular.
 
There is also the Arena/CQC which is a separate PvP game based on very small, fighter craft and controlled layouts. It isn't wildly popular.

The idea of using someone else' bindings is silly. So long as the ships in CQC are matched then who cares what button is used for targeting, thrust, etc?
 
The idea of using someone else' bindings is silly. So long as the ships in CQC are matched then who cares what button is used for targeting, thrust, etc?

I cannot follow what you are trying to say. I never mentioned bindings at all. The layout of the ships are chosen from a list. One from column A = Ship type. One from column B = weapon/gear layout. No binding.
 
I'm not up on the official PvP world in this game, but is there a league where the competitors must use the exact same load out and ship?

It just seems that in videos like this, it is impossible to gauge the actual winner due to the fact that they were both in different ships.

Skill can only be ascertained on a level playing ground. Matches like this prove nothing concrete about each player's skill. I'm not sure what there is to be proud of here.

Outfitting is a skill.

That said, the ridiculous variances on engineered modules (130-142% drives, 45% distributors etc etc) do obfuscate skill
 
CQC was so fabulously un-interesting and uncompelling to me that I've literally never fired it up even one time. If it were integrated into the main game via a death match arena or something, then I would be interested.
 
CQC was so fabulously un-interesting and uncompelling to me that I've literally never fired it up even one time. If it were integrated into the main game via a death match arena or something, then I would be interested.

The power up concept kind of ruins it for me. I'd rather it be skill versus skill in piloting. Run and grab the power ups just doesn't sound interesting to me at all.

And Grape is correct. Frontier really need to just get rid of hidden secondary rolls altogether. There is no excuse for that kind of divergence in gear.
 
The power up concept kind of ruins it for me. I'd rather it be skill versus skill in piloting. Run and grab the power ups just doesn't sound interesting to me at all.

It takes quite a bit of skill to have the right power up at the right time as there is often fierce competition for them as well as ambushes around them.

If you want to cater to a razor thin ideal of 'skill', you'll have to set your own rules and find those who will play by them.

And Grape is correct. Frontier really need to just get rid of hidden secondary rolls altogether. There is no excuse for that kind of divergence in gear.

Hardly matters whether the effects are primary or secondary. You still have a random spread that can take dozens, if not hundreds, of rolls to reasonably expect to have a part that can be roughly equal to some of the best out there.
 
There have been multiple combat video threads lately titled "... killed by ace pilot Harry Potter".

When I've watched each of these videos, I've been impressed at how unremarkable the technique has been and how harry's opponents of made mistake after mistake. It's almost as if Harry is enlisting other commanders to help him clean up his ganker reputation.
 
There have been multiple combat video threads lately titled "... killed by ace pilot Harry Potter".

When I've watched each of these videos, I've been impressed at how unremarkable the technique has been and how harry's opponents of made mistake after mistake. It's almost as if Harry is enlisting other commanders to help him clean up his ganker reputation.

Never! Everybody knows the PvP is sacred. What would make you think that besieger would sully the good name of the PvP in Elite?
 
Why is it that Harry's initial video shows an internal FDev email address as the logged in email in the lower left corner?

[redacted]_dev@frontier.co.uk [internal] shows clear as day.

Tell me...are you a developer Harry? o_O
 
Perhaps i am missing something here, but PvP combat is pretty boring? Yes these are good pilots with some nifty pip management, but really it is turn as quick as you can, fly directly at your opponent and fire your weapons. The one with the best shields wins?

Am i missing something here?
 
There have been multiple combat video threads lately titled "... killed by ace pilot Harry Potter".

When I've watched each of these videos, I've been impressed at how unremarkable the technique has been and how harry's opponents of made mistake after mistake. It's almost as if Harry is enlisting other commanders to help him clean up his ganker reputation.

Kind of, like, my first post on this thread. :)
 
Just watched this for the second time, and what struck me was the overall management of the fight, notice that switching of full pips to where its needed most at that moment/second.

I am not really into PvP but found it enlightening. Does Cmdr Nightshady have a video from his point of view as it looked like he was winning in the early part of the fight, would be interesting. Congrats both.
 
He must be a developer at FDev. Harry would never put something like that on screen just to troll people.

Perhaps. Though it's far more subtle than I've seen from him in other areas. ;)

And the "Are you a developer Harry?" line was a permutation on the "Are you a wizard Harry?" line.
 
Why is it that Harry's initial video shows an internal FDev email address as the logged in email in the lower left corner?

[redacted]_dev@frontier.co.uk [internal] shows clear as day.

Tell me...are you a developer Harry? o_O

This Eurogamer article mentions who "Harry Potter" is:

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2...ite-dangerous-players-causing-a-rift-in-space

Interestingly that name matches up with the internet address seen in the video. So, Frontier, is "Harry Potter" someone who works for or with your company?
 
Perhaps i am missing something here, but PvP combat is pretty boring? Yes these are good pilots with some nifty pip management, but really it is turn as quick as you can, fly directly at your opponent and fire your weapons. The one with the best shields wins?

Am i missing something here?

I don't enjoy 1v1's as much as wing vs wing. Or the group I'm in, we've done pvp events where we do death match. death match with 10 - 12 ships flying around is pretty exciting.
 
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