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Qué? Reddit is relentlessly pro-SC and screams down almost all criticism - hence our recent amazement that some of the more critical threads have survived

Ahhh Reddit - the tramps armpit full of screaming lulzbunnies who have neither backed nor played Star Citizen - yet are compelled to say stuff because their guild leaders tell them to :D
 
Ahhh Reddit - the tramps armpit full of screaming lulzbunnies who have neither backed nor played Star Citizen - yet are compelled to say stuff because their guild leaders tell them to :D

In Star Citizen the term is Orgs. Guilds are in EVE as I recall.

In fact the orgs and community ( well not all of them) are the best thing about SC at the current time , I will gladly expand on that if anyone requires me to, but promoting a particular org to new players is frowned upon. So please do not ask me to recommend a particular one in case there are any new players here ( I know you are an old hand ASP). It is generally best to play in the PU and meet people then join their org. Or do some research. At the moment it is a moot point for may orgs as the gameplay mechanics for exploration ETC are months away.
 
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In Star Citizen the term is Orgs. Guilds are in EVE as I recall.

'Guilds' is what everyone calls the general thing because initially MMOs were mostly medieval-themed. Sci-fi games tend to invent their own terms (I think EvE has corps). I am personally not in favor of it, espescially in the case of CIG where pretty much everything gets re-named to something else to make it sound more unique. Which is double-annoying when the entire thing doesnt exist at all in the game. Lets focus first on getting guilds into the game, and then on fancy rebranding. ;)
 
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Not in SC we call them Orgs.

In ED they tend to be referred to as groups which is I guess self explanatory
They could be guilds I suppose if they were dedicated to one profession or skill. I like that I will suggest it.

One thing I do not like is that many orgs (guilds/corps/groups) want you to be exclusive to them. Its a bit early in the games development to be so selective so I suggest choosing an open org until you decide to commit when you see the actual game play.
 
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Something happened in 2014 to change things. My best guess is that is was the PR disaster of a CR live fly event, I watched it and it was cringworthy, but did not dent my hope.

I think that we realised just how much they had left to do, and we were just getting an inkling of how long it was going to take. And the massive marketing of ship sales was taking off.

SC is worth striving for, that is what the forum wanted in 2012. When it happens the tech will change our gaming lives for the better. My guess is 3.0, 3.1 ETC will be good and in 2018 or 2019 it will develop into a worthwile experience.

I lived through ED Beta and Alpha, many got bored and went back to EVE.
Thanks for reading

I do hope you're right, but my guess is that it will take longer to start getting to a state where I could play it for any length of time and have fun.

But overall I thought that was a very fair & balanced post. Thanks. +1
 
I've been on this forum for a bit...first as an Xbox E-D player from GPP, then switched to PC a year ago to continue my E-D experience. During that time I had found an interest in SC. All in all, I'm fairly new to the SC text drama and take most of it as forum warriors typing rather than playing...from both sides. Although I'm a backer (and previous subscriber) I tend to have a 'believe it when I have it' attitude to SC, my commentary on Spectrum reflects that....but not always here seemingly, since I'm a new boy :p

When it comes to folks I respect in giving opinion, the likes of Sleut always keeps me honest. His posts can be curt and direct, but in the majority, very honest in both matters of E-D and on this thread....there are others of course, Fritz, yourself, Bob... Asp, Frosty, Marak...many of whom I followed posts from the discussions on E-D over the years.

Apart from a few discrepancies, this is an honest place..I like it that way.
 
Why PCGamer article reads like PR nonsense, after all these scandals, lies and ? It feels it was clearly written as paid for content. Anyway, I have given up to get something credible from majority of gaming media as they have strong biases and not so strong wish to rock the boat with developers (have to get dat exclusive content). Not that I care about Star Citizen anymore besides SC fans trashing ED - in that regard I *want* 3.0 to come out, so they would have finally something to do or argue about or just play.
 
When playing SC, I tend to crash more ships when I am drinking.

I once woke up drunk whilst playing ED in VR, still in my VR headset. I had a 5 second feeling of being in space and thinking it was real, then realised it was 5am and I was on the sofa.

That is immersion, even SC at CR's planned hoped for best will not equal those 5 secs.
 
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Why PCGamer article reads like PR nonsense, after all these scandals, lies and ? It feels it was clearly written as paid for content. Anyway, I have given up to get something credible from majority of gaming media as they have strong biases and not so strong wish to rock the boat with developers (have to get dat exclusive content). Not that I care about Star Citizen anymore besides SC fans trashing ED - in that regard I *want* 3.0 to come out, so they would have finally something to do or argue about or just play.

I would hope that PCGamer journalists are independent and honest although obviously subjective. I therefore hope like you that the article is accurate.

I have come to think of the current PU (which I like), arena commander, and the for me poorly executed Star Marine as placeholders to try to keep us backers happy. So 3.0,3.1 ETC is the real alpha. Work on Star Marine may well have caused delays by diverting from the real goal. But I'm not a modern game developer so what do I know?
 
Why PCGamer article reads like PR nonsense, after all these scandals, lies and ? It feels it was clearly written as paid for content. Anyway, I have given up to get something credible from majority of gaming media as they have strong biases and not so strong wish to rock the boat with developers (have to get dat exclusive content). Not that I care about Star Citizen anymore besides SC fans trashing ED - in that regard I *want* 3.0 to come out, so they would have finally something to do or argue about or just play.

Yes - the "Mile wide, inch deep" comment always annoys me. I wonder where the depth of SC is going to come from.

SC is going to have the same grind and content through player cooperation/player aggresion that ED does. And I LOVE that. I don't usualy like games on rails (Except solo games like Witcher 3 & Prey) so SQ42 doesn't really interest me.

I've been spending the last 3 days trying to over-engineer a Python, and I've just done a 43 jump trip just to get c5 dirty drives, and I haven't shot at one ship yet. I must be enjoying this 'cos I'm still doing it.

If SC can give me half the fun I've had in ED I'll be happy, even if it does take 5 more years. I'll probably even re-buy it.
 
Why PCGamer article reads like PR nonsense, after all these scandals, lies and ? It feels it was clearly written as paid for content. Anyway, I have given up to get something credible from majority of gaming media as they have strong biases and not so strong wish to rock the boat with developers (have to get dat exclusive content). Not that I care about Star Citizen anymore besides SC fans trashing ED - in that regard I *want* 3.0 to come out, so they would have finally something to do or argue about or just play.

Apart from quoted nonsense from trolls on reddit...I've not once heard anyone trashing E-D apart from on this forum in the E-D sections. From my experience, folks who haven't played it but play SC alpha are interested in hearing about E-D once the common urban myths are cleared out of the way (mile wide, inch deep)...those that have and do play E-D as well as SC Alpha are quite aware they're two different games and treat them as such.

So many rumours and misconceptions spread by reddit...they should just tarmac over the place and make it a roundabout.
 
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I once woke up drunk whilst playing ED in VR, still in my VR headset.

Drunks of Sol approve!!!

Even with the various injectors and the hangar VR support in the early days - the VR experience in Star Citizen is simply poor compared to Elite. I see no way for CIG to re-introduce it without breaking everything they have accomplished so far.
 
Apart from quoted nonsense from trolls on reddit...I've not once heard anyone trashing E-D apart from on this forum in the E-D sections.

You know, Reddit represents a large part of SC community, so I don't think their opinion should be discounted. As for the other forums, I remember periodical dumps of posts criticizing ED in its thread on the SC forums, back before it was hidden behind a paywall.
 
You know, Reddit represents a large part of SC community, so I don't think their opinion should be discounted. As for the other forums, I remember periodical dumps of posts criticizing ED in its thread on the SC forums, back before it was hidden behind a paywall.

I'm not discounting them at all...I just leave them to their forum posturing and combing their internet chest hair. Unfortunately, as of yet I haven't found reddit contributors have much to say that interests me. Spectrum isn't behind a paywall either, account registration is free.

I may be missing out of course, like I am with the braincell destroying anti-social media that is FaceAche. After being banned from Facebook for the umpteenth time trying to make civilian non members on a FB supporters page for the Veterans charity I help run realise that clicking on 'Like' and 'Share' constituted absolutely nothing except sitting on their collective shiny backsides drinking tea instead of raising funds for broken soldiers...I just gave it up.

As for reddit...I'm not even going there.
In London, there used to be a Lunatic asylum called 'Bedlam' (originally Bethlehem) where members of the public could pay a penny to go and poke the loonies with a stick for their amusement...now we can all do it for free on Reddit and Facebook [yesnod]
 
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Today, 3.0 is about delivering an entirely explorable solar system with the backend services to make it dynamic. It’s about giving us the city and planet building tools to create for you the rest of the universe in an intelligent, scalable, efficient, and compelling manner. It’s about the first step in giving you the tools to create player outposts and communities. It’s about the streaming tech to allow you to take off from one moon, fly across the system, and land on an entirely different moon, thee driving a g sweet buggy out of the back of your ship to race around the entire planet... all without a loading screen. It’s about you the ability to buy what’s on the web inside kiosks. It’s about usable turret gameplay, and Items 2.0 so you can customize your own ship with new components. It’s about picking objects and cargo so you can haul commodities across space as a trader and merchant. It’s about gutting a singleplayer engine to support thousands of players. It’s about infrastructure that we needed to develop because there are no off-the-shelf solutions for building an immersive experience like no other.

It's still not here :D
 
You cut content from the original 3.0 schedule, then claim the delay is because you've actually added more stuff, including erm.. stuff you'd already claimed was coming.

https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitize...um=hot&utm_name=starcitizen&utm_source=reddit

Yeah, they put it as a great victory almost and said the scope increased yet again so they will push 3.0 back to deliver us MORE, and more AMAZING... and I`m still here getting killed by my own airlock. [alien]
 
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