Why was I attacked ? Help me understand.
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I remember someone else telling that a station shot at them unprovoked, was also allied and they died, so there is a possibility it is a bug.
I would recommend mailing support, they have every logs and could see whether you hit something or whether the npc-bounty hunter and the stations aggroed on your dormant bounties.
Just ask them, they are super nice and will help you. even for this sort of stuff
I would recommend mailing support, they have every logs and could see whether you hit something or whether the npc-bounty hunter and the stations aggroed on your dormant bounties.
Just ask them, they are super nice and will help you. even for this sort of stuff
One thing that I have had happen to me twice was a ship that had previously been chasing me in supercruise jump in right in front of me as I'm boosting towards the station, causing a collision. It happens really fast, just be looking away for a second and you'll miss it as you collide with the other ship damage or destroy it and sail past. Both times that has happened I have had the station open fire on me.
And does that normally cause a station to open fire?
I've scanned countless ships (mostly NPC) while leaving a station and found them to be "wanted" but I've never seen a station open fire as a result.
Just this morning I had a "bit of a do" with another CMDR, earning him a "wanted" tag, and we ended-up heading into the same station, line astern, without any action being taken.
Not expressly related, but for 'fun' on taking off recently from a surface port I could see a skimmer nearby in front of the landing pad, so I thrust over and bumped it with my ship's nose to see what it would do.
Last time I'll be trying that version of 'insta-death'.
I concur with others, perhaps an unintented bump on the other ship, but that log does look like the NPC ship Williams thought it was attacked by OP. The station then responded if OP was in the no-fire zone. May be a bug. Suggest OP reports as such as a bug.
Last time I'll be trying that version of 'insta-death'.
I concur with others, perhaps an unintented bump on the other ship, but that log does look like the NPC ship Williams thought it was attacked by OP. The station then responded if OP was in the no-fire zone. May be a bug. Suggest OP reports as such as a bug.
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No, the comms on the log also record 'Local' chatter, so that could have been security talking to the BH'er, and the comment from the BH'er could've been in response to the cops. What do you fly, and what ship was the BH'er? It's also possible you were being attacked by the BH'er, and also caught in the crossfire of security/station and the BH'er and took damage there as well.
I fly an Anaconda and I really can't remember what the BH was flying... really wish I hit record on that video buffer so you don't all think I'm crazy ! haha .. Nah, I dunno it MUST have been something and sometimes there is just so much going on that you don't recognize or register something that may have happened.
I think I'm going to submit a ticket, at least then I should get an answer as to what FD think happened, I'm guessing and If they do have access to more logs or information then it will be a lot easier for them.
If I hear anything back from them I will let you all know.
Thanks everyone
Hmm, good tip, man. I'm really gonna have to try this next time 'cos the bounties suck !! Cheers.
Only if you fire on a CLEAN ship. Taking out "Wanted" ships will not get you a bounty.
Also...NPC Bounty Hunters are relentless. They will continue to pursue you until you are either destroyed, or you clear the bounty somehow.
Yeah but ... I don't know it just doesn't seem right, yeah it might be part of the rules of the BGS and if so I do accept it but from a role-play perspective it just does not make sense.
Its like ... two rival teams.. Team A vs Team B.
Team A is all like, "Yeah, go over to Team B and kill 'em all, they're scum. I'll give you 30 Merits for each one you kill BUT you must return to me to claim these merits !"
So you go over and kill a bunch of Team B.
You return to Team A to claim your merits like they promised.
Team A is all like, "You murdered so many Team B, Your a criminal and I must now destroy you."
How does that make sense ? lol
Now, the only thing I can think is that the station owner (Ladon Solutions) is not actually a part of Li Yong-Rui powerplay ? Even though the system is a Li Yong-Rui control system ?
If that was the case it would make more sense to me but still not excusable as it would still fall under Li Yong-Rui space and my actions (undermining Torval) should be sanctioned by them(They're the ones who suggest I should do it), therefore I should not have to face the 'crimes' I committed (not crimes in the eyes of Li Yong-Rui or at the least, they are okay with me doing it).
Hope that makes sense.. I'm probably just over-thinking it all and I understand that just because it may not make sense role-play wise or lore wise it doesn't mean that's not how it is.
I submitted a ticket so I will await and see what FD say about it and that's what I'll accept as the reality of the situation.
No problem. Another one: fly 25k away from the nav beacon. When you log out to main menu and back in, all the ship spawns will be powerplay ships. Kill, log out, and back in again. Repeat. A few hours later, enjoy your 10,000 merits
Nice ! Thanks for the tip, will def keep this in mind for next time.No problem. Another one: fly 25k away from the nav beacon. When you log out to main menu and back in, all the ship spawns will be powerplay ships. Kill, log out, and back in again. Repeat. A few hours later, enjoy your 10,000 merits
There is only one specific instance where a station will immediately engage.
- You are scanned and are identified as wanted, within the same system (your affiliation is meaningless, criminal scum, prepare to die).
This can be caused by (but not limited to) carrying illegal passengers and a scan succeeds, collision with another vessel (leading to it's destruction) within the NFZ whilst speeding (over 100m/s) or being scanned and identified as wanted for any other reason not otherwise listed.
It's entirely possible the faction in control of the station, was the one you were happily engaging to make PP merits, but it sounds like you discounted that? Also I see you asked for frontier to give you credits because your ship was destroyed due to being wanted. Either way, the station itself will only engage if you are identified as wanted. So you did something, and were then held accountable for it when a scan completed.
System works as intended. Stations will engage with extreme prejudice if you are identified as wanted. It should be recorded in the journal, though; and if it isn't, then the right move was to raise it with support. Because everything is supposed to be, that's the point of the journal.
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Yeah, I am not really sure what made what happen.. the logs I posted on page 1 don't mention anything about the station identifying me as Wanted..
When I lodged a ticket it was more about trying to figure out what happened. Someone mentioned FD have access to more logs then we as commanders do, so that is why I originally put in a ticket, because I believed they had or had access to more information than I ever would. I assume it's not so clear cut and could be time consuming to actually go through and find out what happened. I am guessing they gave me the benefit of the doubt rather than having to waste time over something so trivial.
I did not directly ask for them to reimburse me. There is an option, when you lodge a ticket, to enter in the amount of credits lost(if any) relating to the issue(you are making a ticket for), which I did.
Yeah, actually it does, just not in the way you may readily understand. But I can certainly see exactly what happened. You were wanted in the system, or you had another system bounty and an NPC was scripted in to come and collect it (it's rare, but it's a newish thing). An NPC bounty hunter was chasing you in Super Cruise. They messaged you whilst in super-cruise, then again when you dropped into the station instance. This is automatically within the NFZ, ~10 seconds later the AI completed the scan, and federal security recognised crime had occurred, and moved to intercept.
Once you were within range of the station, it's a foregone conclusion.
So yeah, you were being chased by a bounty hunter in SC, then dropped into the station, where at least the NPC bounty hunter got off a successful scan, never mind station security; 'crime detected' usually means the security forces are on to you (because they automatically share scanned data, as we do in a wing) and moved to engage. And then the station opened up.
You're showing the journal through a third-party app, and I have no idea if it's showing every event, or if it's filtering events out it doesn't know. So that may not be helping. There is a ton of spam denoting security was 100% on to you, though. I think, what's happened here, is you just didn't realise what was going on at the time, despite the endless chat spam, so it all seemed wrong. When in fact, it's mostly the game treating a criminal as it tends to do; by shooting at it a lot.
Frontier were kind to you, and simply reimbursed credits, because you asked. The support team are good people and simply want to help.
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