Bernal sphere stations
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Oh yes, imagine the lag
jk. Anyway, I Dyson ring would do just fine, I think. But I Think humanity ingame isn't developped enough. They're still not even Type 1 on the Kardashev scale.
By the time you could build one of those, you have solved all the problems and invented all the clown shoes technologies that would have made them necessary and spend your time on more important matters.
Oh hell no they aren't. They're still putting humans in spaceships for one.
I dunno. We could build one now given enough raw materials and propulsion. Start building a sphere out of sheet metal the size of the orbit of mercury, don't stop til finished. Line the inside with solar panels, let people live on the OUTside of it. Dark and toasty! If you want to live on the inside of it, I guess you'll need to do it at about the orbit of Mars, which will only increase the material requirement by a factor of about 10 million.
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Which "now"? In real "now" we can barely send small objects to the orbit of Mercury and are struggling with Mars, and even in the 3300s I'm somewhat doubtful that there are materials with the necessary tensile strength to form any kind of structure that could be used for constructing a Buuthandi
Ocellus stations are definitely not O'Neil Cylinders (even orbis ones aren't really) and the presence of a Stanford Torus on a station is not always seen or necessary.
I don't know why they chose to call the Bernal-Sphere type Ocellus (an eye) or the other type Orbis (circle) - maybe someone knows. Presumably the Coriolis stations were named after the scientist who is associated with the eponymous force.
I don't know why they chose to call the Bernal-Sphere type Ocellus (an eye) or the other type Orbis (circle) - maybe someone knows. Presumably the Coriolis stations were named after the scientist who is associated with the eponymous force.
Could you imagine the CG for that? I don't think we'd complete that in a week.
Just give me all the aluminum and polymers you have. Wait, wait. I'm worried what you just heard was, "Give me a lot of aluminum and polymers." What I said was, "Give me all the aluminum and polymers you have". Do you understand?
Because one kinda looks like an eye and "oculus" was kinda taken, and the other tends to have ring structures.
Could you imagine the CG for that? I don't think we'd complete that in a week.
It would only take a week if we all had Panther Clippers
Could you imagine the CG for that? I don't think we'd complete that in a week.
That'll sure be a LOT of tea
Yeah, obviously, but I meant I don't know F D's reasoning for the name choice.
There are some major problems with trying to build a Dyson Sphere: http://www.popularmechanics.com/space/deep-space/a11098/could-we-build-a-dyson-sphere-17110415/
A Dyson Swarm, however... might work, but this would certainly be a much-longer-than-a-week project. Ten Year Plan anyone?
A Dyson Swarm, however... might work, but this would certainly be a much-longer-than-a-week project. Ten Year Plan anyone?
I did a bit of maths concerning orders of magnitude, and assuming that one could build a "Dyson Bubble" out of material with the density of common printer paper (80g/m²), and that a Coriolis station was a solid sphere of that material at a density the same as steel with a 1km diameter, I'm coming up with around 660 Million of those Coriolis Stress Balls being extruded into a balloon roughly the size of the Mercury orbit.
Considering that your building material has a good chance of being heavier, and the Coriolis will have way less mass (edit: and I'm assuming arbitrary conversion of mass, so effectively you would be able to convert any given matter to your building material(s)), that number is a severe underestimate. So I'd guess that even if all of mankind's combined spaceworthy industrial output in the E:D timeline by 3303 had been put towards that project, it still wouldn't be there. Oh, there also wouldn't be any other colonisation since all the materials required for that would have gone into the balloon, so industrial capacity would be reduced by several orders of magnitude.
On the positive side, if we could convert Earth to the required material mass-by-mass, we'd still have significant left-overs.
Considering that your building material has a good chance of being heavier, and the Coriolis will have way less mass (edit: and I'm assuming arbitrary conversion of mass, so effectively you would be able to convert any given matter to your building material(s)), that number is a severe underestimate. So I'd guess that even if all of mankind's combined spaceworthy industrial output in the E:D timeline by 3303 had been put towards that project, it still wouldn't be there. Oh, there also wouldn't be any other colonisation since all the materials required for that would have gone into the balloon, so industrial capacity would be reduced by several orders of magnitude.
On the positive side, if we could convert Earth to the required material mass-by-mass, we'd still have significant left-overs.
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As I hinted at earlier, the Orbis stations seem to me not "really" O'Neil Cylinders. The internal diameter of the docking bay area is less than the size of the O'Neil Cylinder and so the pseudo-gravity on it's surface is low (hence the "Low Gravity" warnings on the pads). The "White" / "Palm Tree" stations are a bit weird 'cos the pseudo-gravity would still be as low as the normal Orbis ones.
Could you imagine the CG for that? I don't think we'd complete that in a week.
Give me access to the ED database and I'll magic up the materials for you in a few hours - select a station, update the market for that station setting all the amounts for all the materials to 1e20, remove cargo-hold size limits for all ships, et voila!