Because it's all about giving you reasons to fly your spaceship. What's the point in shortcutting anything, when the game is about that?
Powerplay - Really? - aka: The Fascinating Quest for Prismatic Shields
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Because it's all about giving you reasons to fly your spaceship. What's the point in shortcutting anything, when the game is about that?
Power Play is ruined by the selfish opportunists who join a power just to obtain the special weapon and screw everything else.
We deal with these idiots every single cycle. AD is especially prone to the "Idiot Invasion" due to the popularity of our shields. We do have a Slack Community in place to assist those who "truly" want to participate and help us with our goals. We do get a lot of new members on a regular basis, but a lot of our efforts are spent trying to undo the damage caused by the Idiot Invasion's clueless actions within the control systems.
Picking the closest and of course "easiest" system to haul their mats to regardless of the fact that this isn't what needs to be done, voting for expansion when consolidation is what needs to happen, and other crap like that.
Its a constant battle, and takes its toll on those who are trying to do something strategic with this feature. I really hope that FD removes the special weapons aspect from the feature so that we can finally say goodbye to all the selfish opportunists who like a swarm of Locusts that have decimated a crop, defect the second they obtain the special weapon. On to the next power to do it all over again.
We deal with these idiots every single cycle. AD is especially prone to the "Idiot Invasion" due to the popularity of our shields. We do have a Slack Community in place to assist those who "truly" want to participate and help us with our goals. We do get a lot of new members on a regular basis, but a lot of our efforts are spent trying to undo the damage caused by the Idiot Invasion's clueless actions within the control systems.
Picking the closest and of course "easiest" system to haul their mats to regardless of the fact that this isn't what needs to be done, voting for expansion when consolidation is what needs to happen, and other crap like that.
Its a constant battle, and takes its toll on those who are trying to do something strategic with this feature. I really hope that FD removes the special weapons aspect from the feature so that we can finally say goodbye to all the selfish opportunists who like a swarm of Locusts that have decimated a crop, defect the second they obtain the special weapon. On to the next power to do it all over again.
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It's not idiocy that drives this. Nor is it cluelessness. PP has become a way to gain special weapons and shields. There's not a lot more than that for the vast majority of game players. It's not that we don't know. It's that we don't care.
We might see you in the same light as you see us. But we don't go around returning your insults. That would make us as classless as you.
I think you put that pretty well, but unfortunately GG7 has you on block, so probably wasted effort.
I'm sorry, but I don't have infinite time to spend on Frontiers time sinks.
I like to fly ... efficiently!
Playing the BGS can have a minor effect on Powerplay. IIRC, if a control system has more than 50% of the systems in its sphere of influence controlled by a minor faction whose government type favors your Power's ethos, Fortification costs are decreased. On the flip side, governments antithetical to your Power's ethos can increase fortification costs, if they are in the majority.
For example, the Emperor works favorably with Patronage and Feudal governments, but not dictatorships, so those are the kind of factions I support, while doing my best to work against dictatorships. On the other side of the border, President Hudson is also weak against dictatorships, so when in Federation space, I keep an eye out for brave freedom fighters resisting Federation oppression, and lend them my aide.
You seem to have missed the point. You are flying your ship. Everything else is incidental to that.
You seem to have missed the point. You are flying your ship. Everything else is incidental to that.
No I'm not.
I'm too busy playing the menu.
[video=youtube;YC9axIsAoVw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YC9axIsAoVw[/video]
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Right.... how energetic that community seems to be is evidenced by the Aisling sub-forum here on the official ED forums. It is basically one guy posting with mostly zero replies. Here is the amazing content and riveting power play for this week:
Following the Trello link, you get:
- No Expansion
- No Preparation
- Undermining (Empty)
- Just carrying pamphlets to fortify some systems, that is all the objectives for the week.
So GG7 posting here in this thread appears to be the most dramatic thing going on in Aisling's powerplay community.
His statements about "Idiot Invasion" surely indicate the warm and welcoming nature of that community for new players.Do you expect a new player to know about Reddit, Discord etc? You are lucky if they even know about the official forums and care to consider what is available there. I went to the official Aisling forum here, looked at the objectives for this week and followed the Trello link. Nothing implied any kind of interesting game play elements available or worth the grind.
In the end, I dropped my pamphlets (again - tonnes of paper pamphlets in the 34th century?) at a system that was not on the "Do not fortify" list and was somewhat below 100%, assuming that this would at least not cause any damage to the people taking this seriously.
So don't?! It takes less than a minute to completely stock up on media materials in my Cutter (that's over 700 tons). I agree that the UI could be improved (e.g. an option to continue buying until your hold is full, without having to do it yourself). However, it is hardly a huge issue with how it works now.
At level 1, with an allotment of 10 units per four mouse-clicks and the typical transaction lag once for each 10 tonnes: no, you are not doing it in a minute.
They aren't tightly controlled. I can totally blow off the Empire and keep the shields. I can kill both sides' Navies and still keep the rankings. It's laughable to think they are tightly controlled. The point I was making is that the game forces you to a point, but then pretends to offer "anything goes". Sure, anything goes, if you don't want to have anything but generic ships and modules.
Someone who travels to Sag A* has put in more time than someone who pledged to the Empire and then played however they wanted for 4 weeks. What does the Sag A* person get?
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Yea, I'm gonna need you to upload a video to prove that. No way you can do that in less than one minute, unless you're Leezar incognito. Is there some sort of glitch I don't know about?
I get you're trying to say the journey is more important than the goal. But that doesn't apply very well to tedious artificial time sinks in Elite, not in my mind anyways.
Irony alert.
Achilles7
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LOL this is what I call a proper welcome back to the forums! I've missed you arrogant nerds sooooo much!
...btw, well done on not giving your full PC spec as a superfluous aside in this thread!
Whoa!!! This reminds me of the edge of the seat, adrenalin fuelled start to JJ's Star Trek movie & not at all of this...
[video=youtube;dVyqVEYdwHM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVyqVEYdwHM&t=23s[/video]
Good job Frontier...it must be really satisfying to realise such dream apex gameplay as envisaged in the concept/planning stages [blah]
Yeah!! That's right! <Checks own post history (the ones that haven't been removed, that is)> *cough*
I tried to earn one of those modules twice. Always in the third week I was like: (redacted), screw this!
I think the designer is a Sysiphus fan. All the earning wasted each week must have made someone smile.
I think the designer is a Sysiphus fan. All the earning wasted each week must have made someone smile.
Right...one moment folks; CMDR StiTch! needs to put the protective hat on.
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*clank*
...done.
Right, so let's get started. Why are you so bored, OP? Well your joy senses will be tingling like a gerbil in heat when you hear I have the answers for you! (and oh boy, I hope my helmet straps are done up tight).
...because you're playing a multiplayer activity as a solo player.
Yes, PG/solo players are equal and loved etc. - however no matter which way you shake your stick or which end of the brush you're grabbing, PP just does not work as a solo/soloable activity. The structure of the missions/merits, and the power rankings, and the expansion systems, and the interaction potential in general...are all very blatantly designed around a multi-player competition/paramilitary war.
With no further word on what went awry and why, simply bear that in mind. The potential of PP was the first real vector for emergent competitive play; its actual legacy is the removal of the only sense C&P had, a few module tourists, and a few PP grinders - most of even them treating it like a solo BGS grind.
And that is all it will ever be in this incarnation. A background simulator grind.
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*clank*
...done.
Right, so let's get started. Why are you so bored, OP? Well your joy senses will be tingling like a gerbil in heat when you hear I have the answers for you! (and oh boy, I hope my helmet straps are done up tight).
...because you're playing a multiplayer activity as a solo player.
Yes, PG/solo players are equal and loved etc. - however no matter which way you shake your stick or which end of the brush you're grabbing, PP just does not work as a solo/soloable activity. The structure of the missions/merits, and the power rankings, and the expansion systems, and the interaction potential in general...are all very blatantly designed around a multi-player competition/paramilitary war.
With no further word on what went awry and why, simply bear that in mind. The potential of PP was the first real vector for emergent competitive play; its actual legacy is the removal of the only sense C&P had, a few module tourists, and a few PP grinders - most of even them treating it like a solo BGS grind.
And that is all it will ever be in this incarnation. A background simulator grind.
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