The fundamental point has already been made several times: hull repair should be implemented so as to make it completely impossible to use it as in-fight hull hit point regeneration, whether 1v1 or winged.
Hull repair limpets: has sense been pre-applied?
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They don't require this any more, so I'd be surprised if repair limpets did.
It seems we are in agreement. Not enough information to speculate.
And for that we will be grateful!
And, that settles that. One crisis down. Next....
When was that changed? Last time I tried using fuel limpets, I lost a load of them to my target's shields. Admittedly I don't tend to pay much attention to changelogs.
OMG, very hard to reply to this in a way that does not earn me infraction points. So let me try to put it to you gently:
ED is not just about Pew-Pew!
It is even less about PvP!
Hull repair is needed for long-range Explorers and these guys need a bone thrown to them now and then as well
Thank you Sandro! Please, when you work on this part of the design, take care that they're still effective for explorers (so, for example, take advantage of synthesis and also give them the ability to repair canopies).
Well, for most of us, this was quite obvious.. But thanks for reminding few here that not everything revolves around pvp..
2.2 for hatch breakers, if my memory's good. The version after NPCs stopped bouncing them off your shields in the first place, anyway.
Fuel transfer worked through shields at least as early as 2.0. If that changed before then I don't remember when.
I cannot squeeze cargo rack and limpet controller in my Asp, unless I leave the shield generator behind... choices choices
Use an Anaconda instead, problem solved...
I need fast ship to scan surfaces for things, Anaconda will simply not do, plus I like Asp so much better for photos, but that is probably topic for another discussion
"But... but... but... he didn't say why they won't be effective! And he didn't quantify 'effective' either! Is that 'usefully effective' or 'at all effective'? Why can't we just get a straight answer?!?"
The most hull damage I've ever taken on an exploration trip was 1% and that was over about 105K LY, plus I only got it by faceplanting a black hole out of sheer stupidity.
On top of that, I would have to lose range by a) equipping a limpet controller and b) carrying some limpets. That means out of my three exploration ships I literally cannot use them in the DBX because I don't have any spare slots and the only way I could use them in my Asp would be by not taking an AMFU, which means I wouldn't be able to do any significant number of neutron star jumps due to the FSD damage not being repairable.
So yeah. I could equip them on my Anaconda and lose some of the jump range I spent time on engineering every piece of gear for just to repair an insignificant amount of damage that I would only ever incur due to my own carelessness to begin with, on account of there being literally nothing that you will encounter as an explorer which will do hull damage unless you fly into it.
None of that is a reason not to implement them but I can hardly say that I see them as any kind of priority.
Well not if your problem is not wanting to spend an exploration trip, when you fly almost exclusively in supercruise, in a ship whose supercruise flight performance is roughly on a par with the Hindenburg.
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