Alien archeology and other mysteries: Thread 10 - The Canonn

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Way to go contradicting me there, thereby setting you up with an opportunity to patronize me. Now you look like you know more than me about everything, not just about Unknown Links in Elite Dangerous.

I am not contradicting anything, I was under impression you have problem getting good audio, so I am just sharing my experience. Looking at your photo you should move little bit down, I do not get a good audio with link being exactly in the middle, this is why I listen to the sound and move around to find the sweet spot, where I can hear the response best. Also when you are as close to UL you get too much interference, so I find better to be bit further, but again what works for me is not necessarily the best for others :)
 
What is the recomended cruise altitude to spot a US?

Never found one this way, I tend to stop and look around, for me 300km is a sweet spot. I was comparing orbital cruise with normal flight and from the same distance it was way more visible in normal flight, photos are somewhere in this thread, but finding them is another thing :)
 
Never found one this way, I tend to stop and look around, for me 300km is a sweet spot. I was comparing orbital cruise with normal flight and from the same distance it was way more visible in normal flight, photos are somewhere in this thread, but finding them is another thing :)

Thanks. I'll try the camera.
 
Hi, I have a problem with obtaining the mission from Ram Tah. I've landed in Meene Felice and one other stations and nothing appears on my transactions window... Any idea?
 
Hi, I have a problem with obtaining the mission from Ram Tah. I've landed in Meene Felice and one other stations and nothing appears on my transactions window... Any idea?

That's weird, there have been reports that Felice doesn't always give mission but I picked it up there a few days ago.

Might be worth jumping to a different system & back & trying once more - pretty sure I've heard that as a solution (sounds a bit far-fetched to me). Good luck!
 
Listening Post 1
i also have screenshots if needed.

Some screenshots courtesy of Delmonte / discord while we wait:

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That's weird, there have been reports that Felice doesn't always give mission but I picked it up there a few days ago.

Might be worth jumping to a different system & back & trying once more - pretty sure I've heard that as a solution (sounds a bit far-fetched to me). Good luck!

I was trying it 4 or 5 times landing, starting and jumping. And after that - success. :) Thanks for suggestions. :)
 
To get the mats necessary for CG you need to destroy the scavengers, or they are just lying around? I did drop off 3 Unknown Wakes my alt pilot had, but this is not enough ;)
 
To get the mats necessary for CG you need to destroy the scavengers, or they are just lying around? I did drop off 3 Unknown Wakes my alt pilot had, but this is not enough ;)

Apparently the killing is non-optional - but they're classed as tech, not bio - so that's ok[yesnod][money]
 
They're interesting as they are on a tidal locked pair (don't think we've had ruins on both sides of a tidal locked pair) and two sites are the most active sites found so far with 36 & 37 active obelisks. Hoping we can get a route to solve the ruins using only skaudai sites soon :)

That sounds Factabulous, considering they turned the reward even for first time completion to a pitiful 10m, its not worth traversing space and time to find all those scans.

I feel like a bad person, top 10% on the current 'Trade' CG.
The only way I could justify attacking those 'alien beings/machines' to 'trade' their innards was the fact that I have partaken in imperial slave trading in the past, and that's not any worse... right??

It depends on if you read Premonition and don't mind being a sheep. According to lore
CG's are just there to distract you from the Dynasty Project / The Club. They already have this technology and are making you jump through hoops to get your treats.

The tech would still be released even if the CG was never completed. But luckily there are enough Sheeple out there who are satisfied being fed tonnes of biowaste for a few credits that no CG will ever go uncompleted or failed.

Also if you listened to Brabens original idea of Imperial Slave Trading, its not all that bad really. Non-Imperial Slave Trading is the bad one. Most, if not all, Imperial Slaves are there by choice to work off a debt or to restore family honor. Imperial Slaves are to be treated like regular people, not traded like a commodity. They are to be transported in passenger cabins, not Cargo Bays.

Yet here we are stuffing them in cargo bays and using them as a commodity. It would seem Brabens original idea has fallen quite short of what he originally planned. Unless they take away Imperial Slaves as a commodity and add it as passenger missions instead then it will forever be a shadow of what he had planned.

FYI: CG for Thargoid protection looking like it won't hit the top tier - anyone in the area hanging back because 'it will easily complete' - now is your chance:)

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...p-materials)?p=5821249&viewfull=1#post5821249

Or, you can not do the CG, fight back against Sirius, and not let them use you as puppets in their grand scheme.
 
It depends on if you read Premonition and don't mind being a sheep. According to lore
CG's are just there to distract you from the Dynasty Project / The Club. They already have this technology and are making you jump through hoops to get your treats.

The tech would still be released even if the CG was never completed. But luckily there are enough Sheeple out there who are satisfied being fed tonnes of biowaste for a few credits that no CG will ever go uncompleted or failed.

Also if you listened to Brabens original idea of Imperial Slave Trading, its not all that bad really. Non-Imperial Slave Trading is the bad one. Most, if not all, Imperial Slaves are there by choice to work off a debt or to restore family honor. Imperial Slaves are to be treated like regular people, not traded like a commodity. They are to be transported in passenger cabins, not Cargo Bays.

Yet here we are stuffing them in cargo bays and using them as a commodity. It would seem Brabens original idea has fallen quite short of what he originally planned. Unless they take away Imperial Slaves as a commodity and add it as passenger missions instead then it will forever be a shadow of what he had planned.

Hmm, I have not read either books yet, but that is interesting to know. As for the slave trading... I have partaken in both [money]
Although I did recently try to liberate some slaves from a federation convoy in which they were being transported with 2 other things (I think a blueprint or something and stem cell type things) near merope. I was vastly out-gunned at the time in my Dolphin though. Never mind :rolleyes:
 
Using EDDB or just flying to the system you can work out you've got candidates of:
Pleiades Sector SD-T b3-134.64 ly
Pleiades Sector FG-Y d4434.67 ly
Pleiades Sector YJ-R b4-034.73 ly
Mel 22 Sector NX-U d2-2734.74 ly
Mel 22 Sector QT-H b10-034.79 ly
Mel 22 Sector SZ-F b11-134.98 ly
Mel 22 Sector CH-C b13-035.03 ly

... already you aren't going to find a match using your formula because sure enough, there's no system exactly 34.84LY from HIP 14909. But like the UA "morse", it's not morse, just morse-like, and with this kind of thing going down to only a certain degree of precision given the use of octal, so it's only going to be a rough match anyway.

Rinse repeat for the distance from Merope and, if there's still too many candidates, Col 70, and job done. It'll eventually converge on Mel 22 Sector NX-U d2-27, noting it's still inaccurate (131.18 rather than 131.52LY). No complex math needed.

+1 Nice answer but not what I'm looking for. I've tried that and can't be bothered to sit around waiting for EDDB to work out the distances to Merope, or HIP 14909, or Col 70 Sector FY-N c21-3, and then guess which page of results the systems at the correct distance are on, then have to wait for EDDB to work out the distances for the systems on that page again, then find out it's the wrong page, then guess another page, etc., all whilst I should have been playing the game. And then what if a system isn't even on EDDB? It's not a foolproof method.

Actually flying to the system and checking the distances of surrounding systems is probably the best idea for avoiding the mathematics. But then you can't fly to Col 70 Sector FY-N c21-3 as it's Permit Only.

So to my mind the only sure way is to use mathematics to calculate a set of co-ordinates from the data set, and look to the nearest system to those co-ordinates. Once there is a mathematical method, it's just a case of simple arithmetical number-crunching. The difficult bit is working out the method. I'm not even sure it's possible.

So now it's an obsession. I want a purely mathematical method to calculate a set of co-ordinates from the UL data, and see if the co-ordinates don't match up with the results of those who could be bothered to use EDDB or whatever. So. I repeat. Are there any mathematicians who can tell me to how to solve these equations for x, y and z please?

1) x² + y² + z² + 157.1875x + 299.25y + 681.0625z = -127228.64
2) x² + y² + z² + 168.75x + 518.5625y + 717.3125z = -201766.3873
3) x² + y² + z² - 1374.125x + 725.0625y + 1394.125z = -426132.555

By subtracting 1) from 2), 1) from 3), and 2) from 3) I can eliminate the second degrees:

4) 11.5625x + 219.3125y + 36.25z = -74537.7473
5) -1531.3125x + 425.8125y + 713.0625z = -298903.915
6) -1542.875x + 206.5y + 676.8125z = -224366.1677

And I can eliminate one of the variables by multiplying an equation like so:

Multiply 5) by (36.25 / 713.0625):
5B) -77.84742308x + 21.64705496y + 36.25z = -15195.3958

Subtract 5B) from 4) to eliminate z:
7) 89.40992308x + 197.665445y = -59342.3515

But any other equation in terms of just x and y that I make using the other equation just yields a proportionally identical equation:

Multiply 6) by (36.25 / 676.8125):
6B) -82.63620833x + 11.06011635y + 36.25z = -12017.02625

Subtract 6B) from 4) to eliminate z:
8) 94.19870833x + 208.2523837y = -62520.72105

7) and 8) are practically identical equations and it isn't possible to deduce a value for x or y from them.

I need help.
 
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