Fellow Explorers, We Need To Start Cleaning Up After Ourselves

Ralph Vargr

Ralph Vargr
No, this is not about biowaste.

I will jump into a system, note that the Unbelievable Objects have been First Discovered, but not scanned into EGO, or EDSM/EDDN.

Then, the rest of the system will be ignored. Leaving us dogs to pick up the iceball and rock scraps.

You may be in search of ELW's, or Impossible Stars, but you are leaving a lot of the galaxy untouched, and lots of money on the table.

Mere Water Worlds, Metal-Rich Planets, Helium Giants, Water Giants, Ammonia giants, etc, are being left both unscanned, and also as First Discovery pickups for me.

Yes, it took a Heart Attack for my exploring luck to change. I've been cleaning up my lost systems after the data loss, and it is amazing what you guys are leaving behind.

I am picking up 1-2 MCr systems in UC payouts, where you have just scanned the primary, and the ELW, and split.

I know you have The Will To Power to reach Beagle Point in nanoseconds. You can scan a mere star system faster than that, can't you? :)

Please don't give the naysayers the ammunition of being able to ask "is that 99 percent of the galaxy is un-explored figure they keep trumpeting about computed *after* all the good stuff has been cherry-picked?" :)

We don't want the 1% guys to look like Hippie-Crypts, do we? :)
 

thirstyfish

thirstyfish
Ralph Vargr said:
No, this is not about biowaste.

I will jump into a system, note that the Unbelievable Objects have been First Discovered, but not scanned into EGO, or EDSM/EDDN.

Then, the rest of the system will be ignored. Leaving us dogs to pick up the iceball and rock scraps.

You may be in search of ELW's, or Impossible Stars, but you are leaving a lot of the galaxy untouched, and lots of money on the table.

Mere Water Worlds, Metal-Rich Planets, Helium Giants, Water Giants, Ammonia giants, etc, are being left both unscanned, and also as First Discovery pickups for me.

Yes, it took a Heart Attack for my exploring luck to change. I've been cleaning up my lost systems after the data loss, and it is amazing what you guys are leaving behind.

I am picking up 1-2 MCr systems in UC payouts, where you have just scanned the primary, and the ELW, and split.

I know you have The Will To Power to reach Beagle Point in nanoseconds. You can scan a mere star system faster than that, can't you? :)

Please don't give the naysayers the ammunition of being able to ask "is that 99 percent of the galaxy is un-explored figure they keep trumpeting about computed *after* all the good stuff has been cherry-picked?" :)

We don't want the 1% guys to look like Hippie-Crypts, do we? :)
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I have found several terraformable high metal content worlds (or metal-rich, I don't recall) recently with no tag on them. Even without the first discovered bonus, that is still over half a million credits for just one scan. And I have had systems with half a dozen of these planets. Only way to find the terraformable worlds is to give them a DDS scan and spend the time. Worth nearly as much as an ELW.
 

Ralph Vargr

Ralph Vargr
thirstyfish said:
I have found several terraformable high metal content worlds (or metal-rich, I don't recall) recently with no tag on them. Even without the first discovered bonus, that is still over half a million credits for just one scan. And I have had systems with half a dozen of these planets. Only way to find the terraformable worlds is to give them a DDS scan and spend the time. Worth nearly as much as an ELW.
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Correct.

Players can strip content from a game faster than you can say "Starring Charlton Heston As Moses". They will strip mine the goodies, and leave the rest to us casual peasants.

1%: Welcome To Sturgeon's Law, except it's 99% instead of 90%. :(
 

NW3

NW3
Yep, guilty as charged. :D

On my way back from Beagle Point, I was getting burned out and mostly scanned the "low hanging fruit". Feel free to head out that way and scan all the goodies I missed. ;)
 

Crank Larson

Crank Larson
Ralph Vargr said:
I will jump into a system, note that the Unbelievable Objects have been First Discovered, but not scanned into EGO, or EDSM/EDDN.
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Why would that be a requirement for exploring?! I'm sure I've discovered hundreds of systems that I've never uploaded to third party websites... I'd rather play the game. Though I have uploaded some.

But really, until the galaxy is over 50% explored, I think tidying up can wait. Which means, not in my lifetime. :D Besides, some of us find it mildly amusing to scan random objects in a system just to catch people by surprise. I generally leave the sun alone and pick a planet quite a distance away when I get the urge.
 

mp4x

mp4x
I start out well, take pride in tagging everything, spending time checking out whole systems, visiting moons... Unless the celestial body is 100+kly away from the main star, or, unless I've decided to head back to the bubble - along the way, when i get a bit closer, I run out of patience and just want to get home.

But I agree in general, when I land in a system that has a tagged star but nothing else has been visited I wind up cleaning up
 

gooddoc

gooddoc
It all depends on what my aim is at any given time.

Take my recent trip to Beagle Point & back, going to Jaques Station on the return journey then back to the bubble.

I'm an Explorer, I explore! When I enter a system I bring up the system map & see what it has to offer. But I'm not interested in spending nearly a hour scanning every Ice/Rock planet & Asteroid belt, so I leave these alone. Everything else is usually scanned, even going 500+LS to scan a single object (but not Ice/Rock).

I tend to have a rough idea of my trip, but it's never set in stone. On this recent trip, when I reached Jaques Station & set off back to the bubble, I must have changed my mind at least 6 times, how I was going to return.
First I was going the explore the Skaudia region for Alien sites, Then it was visit the 5 or so Stations set between Colonia & the bubble, then do the NS highway.........

Then I decided to Buckyball it back, so I would only scan the odd star & close planets before moving on.

Even with todays' inflated exploration data values, any Explorer will set out how much of a system they explore depending on how much time they can spend playing ED & how fast they want to move between points A & B.

That said, I do find it slightly annoying being in the remotest regions of the Galaxy & suddenly hitting a system that's been tagged!
 

acg515

acg515
Went into a system like you said, found 3 terraformable high metal content, like another couple high metal, and another water world that had been missed. He got a water world that wasn't even terraformable.

I skip the frozen bodies and the rocky because it just gets too monotonous for me. Anything with high metal content, metal rich, or gas giants that is undiscovered gets scanned. I move between nebulas and stars that I want to see, so at some point I get sick of it and want to get to the next landmark. I only have a jump range of about 30 right now so while it takes forever to travel around, I feel that I'm covering the area I'm travelling better anyhow.

If I get into an interesting system with an earthlike, I scan all rocks and ice planets.
 

gooddoc

gooddoc
Bear in mind though that up until the recent hike in Exploration data, most planets - including HMC's - paid peanuts. Only Water Worlds & Earthlikes paid decent amounts. Gas Gaints paid more than HMC's, not any more.

That's probably why these have been ignored in the past & worth finding now!
 
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lokvette

lokvette
If I were to scan everything in every system I jump into I wouldnt get anywhere

I do scan the star for EDSM, but if a system is just not that interesting I move on. After bagging any ELW WW and at the moment looking for Helium rich GG. But afk for two weeks so not doing any of that for now.
 

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I remember scanning everything - no exception - during the 1st 10000LY on my way to Colonia. Oldschool, no Neutron jumps.

While nice to have entire Systems bagged over a large distance, even that 550000Ls B Sun or countless Icy Planets - it was slowing me down waay too much. Just doesn't work.
And naturally, many Systems didn't "pay the rent" compared to the time it took to scan them. Not even the almost +199% G5 Longrange DSS can change that.

IMHO nothing wrong with cherrypicking, and i.e. dedicated ELW-Hunters need just that. ELWs. Or Explorers just moving from A to B and needing to cover huge distances.
So if anything, they're leaving goodies behind for others to Scan if they wish.
 

Ralph Vargr

Ralph Vargr
Factabulous said:
Hmmm, don't see OP in edsm's top 100 contributors, so I guess they're as slack as the explorers they're complaining about :D
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I *was* on it. Until engineers opened up.

Now, I am a peasant casual. :(

Yup, it does take 15-30 minutes to completely cover a system, especially if there are additional systems, in the system, By Thargoid Edict, these are all at least 400,000 light-seconds out from exit point.

I've got over 2500 firsts, according to EDSM, 15 galaxy record breakers, so far on EGO (the connect to EDD is bombing the servers, slowing processing), and I am trash. :(

Give us several thousand ADD/OCD gamers, and they will empty the galaxy faster than tribbles can empty a grain silo.

Exploration needs more than just racking up the scans.
 

Old Duck

Old Duck
I find it boring / frustrating when one system has the same name stamped on every single planet and moon, unless it's a pretty small system to begin with. I purposefully leave at least one planet "blank", both for the sake of diversity and for the new explorer who is desperate to write his / her name in the stars but is having bad luck finding undiscovered systems.

When you reap the harvest of your land, you shall not reap your field right up to its edge, neither shall you gather the gleanings after your harvest. And you shall not strip your vineyard bare, neither shall you gather the fallen grapes of your vineyard. You shall leave them for the poor and for the sojourner ~ Leviticus
 

mp4x

mp4x
With only 0.01% of the stars discovered, i don't think you need to save anything for others.

Old Duck said:
I find it boring / frustrating when one system has the same name stamped on every single planet and moon, unless it's a pretty small system to begin with. I purposefully leave at least one planet "blank", both for the sake of diversity and for the new explorer who is desperate to write his / her name in the stars but is having bad luck finding undiscovered systems.

When you reap the harvest of your land, you shall not reap your field right up to its edge, neither shall you gather the gleanings after your harvest. And you shall not strip your vineyard bare, neither shall you gather the fallen grapes of your vineyard. You shall leave them for the poor and for the sojourner ~ Leviticus
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William J Smith

William J Smith
Theres a system out towards Eta Carina, about 1500 ly form the bubble where the center star has been scanned by someone, the other 75 objects have been scanned by me, including 2 ELW.

So feel free to do 1 target and move on and leave all the rest to the latecomers... oh and I always try to leave a few worlds unscanned wthin 1000ls of the jump point, but not if they're interesting [blah]

Bill

try going to the opposite side of the galaxy to Colonia.... seems to be less popular there
 

Darkfyre99

Darkfyre99
Alright, here we go:

Ralph Vargr said:
No, this is not about biowaste.

I will jump into a system, note that the Unbelievable Objects have been First Discovered, but not scanned into EGO, or EDSM/EDDN.
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I don't use any of those sites, because I generally consider them on par with walkthroughs and other "help" sites. They ruin the sense of discovery in a game, and become a crutch players depend on, as opposed to actually learning the game.

Then, the rest of the system will be ignored. Leaving us dogs to pick up the iceball and rock scraps.

You may be in search of ELW's, or Impossible Stars, but you are leaving a lot of the galaxy untouched, and lots of money on the table.
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Most planets are uninhabitable rocks, whereas my goal while exploring is looking for planets for potential colonization, either ones where humans could potentially already live on the surface, or ones suitable for terraforming. Only if I find a candidate for colonization, do I scan the rest of the system's bodies, so that when the light of civilization and freedom reaches that world, they'll have the information they need about their new home.

Mere Water Worlds, Metal-Rich Planets, Helium Giants, Water Giants, Ammonia giants, etc, are being left both unscanned, and also as First Discovery pickups for me.

Yes, it took a Heart Attack for my exploring luck to change. I've been cleaning up my lost systems after the data loss, and it is amazing what you guys are leaving behind.

I am picking up 1-2 MCr systems in UC payouts, where you have just scanned the primary, and the ELW, and split.

I know you have The Will To Power to reach Beagle Point in nanoseconds. You can scan a mere star system faster than that, can't you? :)

Please don't give the naysayers the ammunition of being able to ask "is that 99 percent of the galaxy is un-explored figure they keep trumpeting about computed *after* all the good stuff has been cherry-picked?" :)

We don't want the 1% guys to look like Hippie-Crypts, do we? :)
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Everyone has their own purpose for exploring. If they're leaving "good stuff" behind, maybe its because their purpose is different from yours.
 
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