FPS help for CV1

[INSTIG8R]

Hey guys,

I am just seeing if this FPS is what I should expect from my new rig:
i7-7700k 4.2 overclocked to 4.5ghz
MSI Z270 M7 gaming
MSI 1080ti Gaming... OC to 2012mhz
32gb DDR4 ram
CV1
Crucial MX300 - 1050GB SATA SSD

Click here to see my dr kaii profiler settings.

I must say it looks pretty amazing. I am also running the oculus tray tool:
https://forums.oculus.com/community...ng-profiles-hmd-disconnect-fixes-hopefully/p1
In the tool I have super sampling set to 0 (as I set this in game as you can see in the profiler) and have ASW turned to auto, power set to high performance.
There is an option to have a visual hud which displays performance stats. When i use this my fps is generally around 90fps but my overhead is in the red.. can't remember the stats but it ain't great. Went down to like 5% or something.

During the testing I am in a high res extraction zone... not a crazy amount of NPC's around and my fps drops to 45 so the ASW is kicking in

I guess my question is... are people with a similar rig still having to use ASW and any ideas on whats happening with my overhead %? I thought with a rig like this I wouldn't have to use ASW and my overhead % would be better but maybe i was expecting too much I am also seeing some users and posting saying they are using HMD setting of 1.75 to 2.0 and saying its smooth... are they even testing in high res extraction zones haha or is it just me having this issue..

If anyone has any experience here it would be much appreciated happy to provide any more info.

When running DCS my overhead is even worse .. way in the minus yet it seems smooth most of the time 45 when on the ground and 90 most of the other times in the air but this is for another forum ha.

 

[zarking]

Well, first of all, what other settings have you got?
If you're using EDprofiler, maybe post a screen shot so we can check that the settings are good (or compare to others).

I've got the 1080ti, and my i7 7700 oc to 5ghz. I can't go above HMD of 1.5, not unless I drop other settings.
I found my sweet spot was ss at 1.3 via the tray tool, alternatively hmd at 1.5 in game also works but with bloom off, blur off, dof off, shadows at medium, ao at medium and materials and fx at medium, the rest on high.
That gives me 90fps about 99% of the time.

You can set everything to ultra and have hmd at 1.5 but yeah you'll get a lot of stutters and jerkiness in a res, such is life. Some people prefer to have the high level off detail over the permanent 90fps, you can only have one or the other lol.

And yeah, the performance overhead thing is always hovering around the red, that's not a big deal as long as your getting the fps you want.

 

[zarking]

Also, don't run via steam, don't even install steam vr, removing that gave me much better performance, thanks to @malic for that tip

 

[TorTorden_VR]

That 1050 is definitely the bottle neck.
It's a great card for 1080p gaming but really comparable to the 970 and not really recommended for ED in VR.

 

[kiario]

Only thing I run is the debug tool which I set pixel density to 2. This gives me a better image quality than setting it to 2.0 in HMD Q ingame.

With all settings on ultra in Elite and PD 2.0 sure I can't maintain 90 fps without ASW kicking in. I also have a MSI 1080TI.

But I have no issues with ASW kicking in. There is no stuttering or FPS drop below 90 with ASW.

No stuttering in res sites or on planets. Always 90 fps with ASW.

 

[INSTIG8R]

Well, first of all, what other settings have you got?
If you're using EDprofiler, maybe post a screen shot so we can check that the settings are good (or compare to others).

I've got the 1080ti, and my i7 7700 oc to 5ghz. I can't go above HMD of 1.5, not unless I drop other settings.
I found my sweet spot was ss at 1.3 via the tray tool, alternatively hmd at 1.5 in game also works but with bloom off, blur off, dof off, shadows at medium, ao at medium and materials and fx at medium, the rest on high.
That gives me 90fps about 99% of the time.

You can set everything to ultra and have hmd at 1.5 but yeah you'll get a lot of stutters and jerkiness in a res, such is life. Some people prefer to have the high level off detail over the permanent 90fps, you can only have one or the other lol.

And yeah, the performance overhead thing is always hovering around the red, that's not a big deal as long as your getting the fps you want.

Awesome, thanks for all that info. Yeah the performance overhead was worrying me a bit I was wondering if something was messed up somewhere. In ED its hovering like -10 -5 in res sites... havent gone anywhere else yet to test.

I have steam VR installed but I open Elite via the EDprofiler which I believe doesn't open up through steam. Still worth uninstalling?

Yeah I put my settings in the original post it was in a hyperlink.. have pasted below:
"Click here to see my dr kaii profiler settings."

 

[INSTIG8R]

Only thing I run is the debug tool which I set pixel density to 2. This gives me a better image quality than setting it to 2.0 in HMD Q ingame.

With all settings on ultra in Elite and PD 2.0 sure I can't maintain 90 fps without ASW kicking in. I also have a MSI 1080TI.

But I have no issues with ASW kicking in. There is no stuttering or FPS drop below 90 with ASW.

No stuttering in res sites or on planets. Always 90 fps with ASW.

Thanks for that man, what do you have your ss and HDR set to in game?

 

[INSTIG8R]

That 1050 is definitely the bottle neck.
It's a great card for 1080p gaming but really comparable to the 970 and not really recommended for ED in VR.

Really? wow, i did not know that.. I thought most SSD's would have been suffice

 

[Zeeman]

That 1050 is definitely the bottle neck.
It's a great card for 1080p gaming but really comparable to the 970 and not really recommended for ED in VR.

You're confusing yourself... It's a 18080Ti. The "1050" refers to the capacity of the SSD installed in the machine.

Z...

 

[kiario]

Thanks for that man, what do you have your ss and HDR set to in game?

Both at 1.0

 

[TorTorden_VR]

You're confusing yourself... It's a 18080Ti. The "1050" refers to the capacity of the SSD installed in the machine.

Z...

My bad.
Thought it was a bit odd someone had a i7 7700k and a 1050 GPU.

So much for skimming forums on the cell phone without my glasses huh.
You would think I would just eventually stop doing that...

 

[zarking]

Both at 1.0

I read your post wrong, lol, deleted my comment.
I thought you were saying that you had everything at ultra and SS at 2.0 and still got 90fps in a res, but i see now your saying ASW kicks in.
I was all curious what tricks you had for a minute lol.

 

[kiario]

I read your post wrong, lol, deleted my comment.
I thought you were saying that you had everything at ultra and SS at 2.0 and still got 90fps in a res, but i see now your saying ASW kicks in.
I was all curious what tricks you had for a minute lol.

Ok I just have pixel density in debug panel to 2.0 and ingame to 1.0

 

[Zeeman]

My bad.
Thought it was a bit odd someone had a i7 7700k and a 1050 GPU.

So much for skimming forums on the cell phone without my glasses huh.
You would think I would just eventually stop doing that...

Don't worry, I'm quite certain I have been guilty of worse skimming mistakes!

Z...

 

[INSTIG8R]

I read your post wrong, lol, deleted my comment.
I thought you were saying that you had everything at ultra and SS at 2.0 and still got 90fps in a res, but i see now your saying ASW kicks in.
I was all curious what tricks you had for a minute lol.

How do I know when ASW kicks in.. is it when the FPS locks to 45 during the heavy moments in game? If so, do I assume im receiving 90FPS in the headset even though the FPS counter says 45? Sorry for the noobie questions... just trying to get my head around what I should be looking for during testing.

 

[znôrt]

I've got the 1080ti, and my i7 7700 oc to 5ghz.

i'm surprised you oc your cpu and not the gpu, and that this would make a big difference in elite except in surface geometry calculations. i've never tested that, if that's the reason i would be interested in your related settings and findings.

 

[INSTIG8R]

Only thing I run is the debug tool which I set pixel density to 2. This gives me a better image quality than setting it to 2.0 in HMD Q ingame.

With all settings on ultra in Elite and PD 2.0 sure I can't maintain 90 fps without ASW kicking in. I also have a MSI 1080TI.

But I have no issues with ASW kicking in. There is no stuttering or FPS drop below 90 with ASW.

No stuttering in res sites or on planets. Always 90 fps with ASW.

I just sent SS in tray tool to 2 with both SS and HMD settings in game to 1 and in some places there is slight stutter but what i notice the most especially on planets in the SRV is the HUD target lines... they move during turns. Do you get this as well? Can you post you EDprofile settings?

 

[Mindphaser]

3570k@ 4.4ghz, 16gb ram and a GTX1080 EVGA SC. Ive pretty much given up and just learned to live with 45fps ASW mode most of the time. Im tired of ing around with this and that but never maintaining 90fps. The only time I get 90fps constant is in super cruise and who cares since SC is so boring. RES sites? Yeah its gonna be 45fps all the time, same with the stuttering janky mess in stations.

If I'm gonna get 45fps ASW most of the time, then Im cranking up visuals and make it it look good at least.

 

[zarking]

i'm surprised you oc your cpu and not the gpu, and that this would make a big difference in elite except in surface geometry calculations. i've never tested that, if that's the reason i would be interested in your related settings and findings.

Oh the 1080ti is overclocked too

The thing is......
I haven't actually played ED since I got the oculus, all I've really done is constantly mess with settings and tested every variable possible.
I'm at the point I really need to stop lol.

It is impossible to get constant 90fps and have either SS or HMD at 1.5 or higher with all graphics settings turned on and set to ultra, it just can't be done. ASW will kick in or you'll get frame drops at least. Best places to test are in a busy res or the thargoid base.

So you need to turn down some settings to get the magic 90fps 100% of the time (well, it always drops slightly at load screens such as entering hyperspace or exiting at a station but you can ignore those). Oddly one of the most obvious places to see how stable your 90fps is at the station menu, not sure why.

Anyway, some settings have to be turned off, blur, dof, pull back on model draw distance, turn bloom off, turn shadows or ambient occlusion down, fx quality or material quality.
It seems you can mix and match these a bit, AO and shadows seem to make the biggest difference to fps, but fx quality and model draw distance are close behind.

I know I've said this a few times on different threads now, so sorry about that, but if you compromise on some of those settings then you can get permanent 90 fps at ss 1.5

If you go above 1.5, either ss or hmd, then you'll get frame drops or asw kick in, and quite a lot at that, I can tell when it kicks in as it seems to stutter or do this little frame jump thing.
Also, I really don't see any improvement going above 1.5 ss, in fact the sweet spot for me is 1.3, that gives the Super smooth fps and is plenty sharp enough. If you use hmdq in game then 1.5 looks best, above that the difference is too small to notice I think.

But everyone is different, some are perfectly happy to have some frame frame drops, or for asw to kick in, I'm just being really nit picky about it.

I'll add in, my goal is to have all settings at high (using edprofiler), with bloom, blur and dof off as they seem to have no visible effect in vr (I'm not a fan of bloom as it causes eye strain for me after a while in VR). I use fxaa rather than smaa as it looks better to me, and it impoves performance (some prefer smaa, it's up to you).
From there I can have shadows to ultra if I drop AO to low or vice versa.
Then I have ss at 1.3 via the oculus tray tool, or hmd at 1.5 in game, both feel about the same to me, though I can get ss at 1.5 without any extra frame drops, but it does cause the graphics card to work pretty hard, temps go up quite a bit.
With the above I get 90fps all the time, no stutters, no asw, performance overhead in the rift monitor sits just above the red,, which is about ideal.
Sorry for the essay, but that's the result of my 80 hours or so of testing so far lol.